[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

(07-05-2011 02:10 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

If you consider surveys to be scientific then we have reduced this to a philosophical discussion since you and I obviously have different standards for what "scientific" entails.

I don't know of any empirical data on this. When there is no empirical data, scientists rely on theory. The relevant theory in this case is evolutionary psychology, or perhaps social constructionism if you don't believe the former. This gets us into nature vs. nurture...again.

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Try the bible, which has been the cultural, moral and religious compass of the western world for most of the last 2000 years. It has a couple of guiding passages on women's place in the world.

Your turn.

Chinese has a word for slut. Promiscuity being an undesirable trait in LTRs is not solely a Western standard. Did these disparate cultures randomly produce the same standard, or does the standard come from biology?

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The comparison between chaste and promiscuous women was never the topic. Unless you're implying that chaste women are what you originally referred to as "girlfriend material".

Yes.

I don't consider a girl for the girlfriend track unless I can envision her as my wife someday, and I definitely want to minimize the chance that my wife will cheat on me. Girlfriend material doesn't have to mean a virgin, but a promiscuous girl is definitely not going to make the cut.
So when I write 'girlfriend material', I am implying that she must not be promiscuous. If another man doesn't mind a wife who was promiscuous, then his 'girlfriend material' won't be equivalent to mine.

[Ajiaco]

It's the emo threads that resemble a telenovela that I like the best. I know I'm hooked when I want to know the gory details of how all the OP's drama turned out...even though I suspect I know the answer already.

[boxwino]

(06-16-2011 08:44 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

You owe her nothing she doesn't also show you.

Champion of truth. Putting in more than her right now is fallacy. Roissy 1/3 is along the sorts of something I see applying here. You cling in anyway she'll bounce, think of how many times that has happened to her with other guys in her past based off looks...how much of what you are feeling right now is based off WHO SHE IS AS A PERSON.

Fuck her good. Keep fucking her good. When she talks about the other guy, tell her he sounds like a nice guy and she should give him a chance and stuff like hey if he is with you in the way you truly want him to be you should make the leap. And Let her find that she can comfortably get as emotionally close to you as she wants without you trying to caveman her into a relationship.

On a side note: I was recently going out with a girl for a year who I overgamed and essentially left because she didn't feel I could love her, have a deep connection with her and the above quote applies in the fact that she is still open to things (based on actions) and because of that genuineness I am making myself more vulnerable to her (but not jumping into her emotional state)...being direct with her and helping her feel safe having a connection with me. Taking a step in her direction because of what she shows me I am okay being more open with her. It all depends on the situation.

[ulysses28]

(07-05-2011 04:09 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  

It's the emo threads that resemble a telenovela that I like the best. I know I'm hooked when I want to know the gory details of how all the OP's drama turned out...even though I suspect I know the answer already.

emo thread? good god.

99% of the answers to my post were completely useless. Only a few people got the point of my post, which was not asking how to win a slut's heart for true love, but rather how to clinically and psychopathically destroy a competitor and turn a slut into a non-slut. the GF potential comment was tongue in cheek, i mean jesus christ...

There IS a distinction for those of you who cannot grasp subtlety or complexity.

I do love how people could not get over her "admission" of the number of partners she claimed she had. Yes, I know she was lying, thanks for the useless reminder.

As for your update:
I banged her one more time and moved on. great sex though. gotta love 21 year old bodies.

[MacNcheez]

Dude just keep fucking her every which way you can for as long as you can. Let HER bring up the relationship
first. Just be cool and have a good time with her. And you won't "own" her until she becomes submissive to you.
Just keep escalating sexually until you ask her to do something she doesn't like then does it anyway. That's the point
where you want her to be before you bring up a relationship. Submissive.

[boxwino]

(08-02-2011 02:57 PM)MacNcheez Wrote:  

Dude just keep fucking her every which way you can for as long as you can. Let HER bring up the relationship
first. Just be cool and have a good time with her. And you won't "own" her until she becomes submissive to you.
Just keep escalating sexually until you ask her to do something she doesn't like then does it anyway. That's the point
where you want her to be before you bring up a relationship. Submissive.

+1. Escalate when she is responding well (something I stole from somewhere in this forum). I shall now steal the submissive angle idea.

[MacNcheez]

(08-02-2011 03:11 PM)boxwino Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 02:57 PM)MacNcheez Wrote:  

Dude just keep fucking her every which way you can for as long as you can. Let HER bring up the relationship
first. Just be cool and have a good time with her. And you won't "own" her until she becomes submissive to you.
Just keep escalating sexually until you ask her to do something she doesn't like then does it anyway. That's the point
where you want her to be before you bring up a relationship. Submissive.

+1. Escalate when she is responding well (something I stole from somewhere in this forum). I shall now steal the submissive angle idea.

Thanks Boxwino. That's the approach that has always worked for me. =)