Brazil's nationwide review/Race Status &the truth about 60y.old men wearing speedos
06-15-2011, 01:49 PM
I’ve been receiving several PMs from guys asking about Brazil since I joined Rooshv.
I think it’s about time for me do Break down the scene here from my own experience/opinion living and banging in this continental South-American country.
First of all, keep in mind that Brazil is a huge country, with a population of almost 200 million people.
So it will be much more diverse than Colombia or Argentina and it is not like Sweden where almost everybody comes from the same gene pool (9 Million People)
As a result, choosing which country/city to stay in Brazil will DRAMATICALLY change your experience. Brazil is in reality a collection of several small countries (states) packed together by the same language and few cultural similarities.
Brazil is HUGELY socially divided, in the same cities there will be places that look like Switzerland and others who could easily be somewhere in Nigeria or Haiti. Girls quality will change RADICALLY depending on social status.
Also, it’s important to say that I look more like the average Portuguese/Italian guy than the average Brazilian guy in the streets, who often has some African/brown features mixed with European features.
So the views I’ll share here probably were affected by how I look and how my racial/social status is perceived by locals of a determined region/state.
In addition I’m a Young guy so my experience comes from dealing mostly with under 30 yr old girls and spots.
I will report from what I’ve seen and learned in the most important regions, I’ll skip places that I’ve never visited nor have experience with locals.
Rio de Janeiro
Is for Brazil what LA, Hollywood is for the US. Home of Globo Network, the largest media conglomerate in Brazil , responsible for producing the world-famous Brazilian telenovelas and the most successful Brazilian movies.
Wannabe actors/singers from all places in Brazil and Latin America go to Rio to live the dream. So you will find lots of posers and vain/shallow people there (Go to POSTO 9 in Praia da Barra to see some specimens).
Also Rio is by far the most visited and famous city in Brazil. This means that tons of thirsty Americans, Italians and so on come to Rio to pussy-hunt. This means that almost all Cariocas have experience meeting/banging gringos. So by solely being a foreigner won’t be a game-changer. But use the “Gringo factor” with game and funny lines to see good results.
Night Life: Good clubs, many options of bars, samba spots and more laid back venues.
I couldn’t go any further than Roosh did on Brazil compendium.
Girls: Mostly tanned/Brown skin . Some EU looking here and there. Plenty of stunners and hot bodied girls on the beach / calçadão. Although you will definitely find bitchy attitude, the average Carioca is laid back, funny and open.
- Exotic value as a gringo
São Paulo city and State
If Rio is Hollywood , São Paulo is our NYC.
As the largest financial center in Latin America , professionals and money-chasing men and women come here to “make it”. You will see lots of variety regarding race , looks and attitude.
Your set of options is so wide here that you can feel overwhelmed and confused in SP. It is crucial to know where to go and when to go first hand. Going as loose cannon will lead invariably to disappointment.
Yes, it is expensive for Latin America standards but it is truly a city for all pockets and tastes. From the G to the backpacker bum. Nightlife is incredible.
São Paulo is easily the most Americanized city in Brazil. If at first this means a high level of development , English speakers , cosmopolitan vibe and acess to culture , on the other hand there are some important down sides of the exposure to the anglosphere culture.
Paulistas grew up watching crappy American sitcoms ( 2 and a half men , friends , 90210 etc) and Girls are HIGHLY influenced by Sex and the city / Gossip Girl.
This means they dream about marrying “MR BIG” and you American folks know well what that means first hand. Shitty girls wondering why a tall, rich and handsome guy won’t show up on their doors.
In SP like any big metropolitan area people are always in a hurry and with money on their minds.
Unfortunately is not unusual to hear the same crap that you hear from your typical DC girl , especially in trendy/high end spots .
” Do you have and MBA ? Where do you work ? What you drive ?” BS.
They will try to fit you in the Beta provider Role. Avoid the trap.
When in SP ,It’s a good thing to stick to the middle/high class neighborhoods and financial districts like Paulista AV. , Faria Lima , Berrini . In those places you’ll see tons of fly girls on buses ,cars and on the streets. I see smoking fly girls everyday on my way to work.
It’s important to acknowledge that Sao Paulo is very based on car culture and mall culture. The public transport is not very good and I know many girls who simply don’t walk on the streets, they go everywhere by car. This can lead to disappointment, because in several places you will only see ugly people walking in the streets. So one more time location and proper research is crucial when choosing where to stay in SP.
Clubs and malls are better options to find fly girls , there you will find what Brazil is all about, and not walking downtown. High-heels everywhere. Paulistanas avoid flip-flops.
The small cities in the state are very good, with tons of good looking and less-bitchy girls.
+Exotic value as a gringo
Girls you easily find in SP venues:
Girls: Mostly southern EU Looking (White skin / dark hair) few blondes and a good portion of black /brown skin . Tons of Asians.
Overall Attitude: Always in a hurry , money –chasers , gold-diggers and down-to-earth strugglers. Open to day game and ONS / SNL
Night Life : World class venues , lots of places to go
Minas Gerais (Belo Horizonte) and Espirito Santo (Vitoria)
More Family oriented and church-goer .I find both states similar regarding attitude.
Belo Horizonte is very metropolitan so it is more prone to ONS / Western culture.
Overall Minas is a good place for nurture Girls. There girls are raised to marry a good provider and to take care of their husband and kids. If someday I decide to look for a Brazilian wife, I’ll look in Minas.
Social circle is important in minas but people there are more open than in Vitoria,Espirito Santo. It is good to make some (male) friends and then let them introduce you to the girls.
In Minas with a “Good guy , prince charming vibe” you can swoop family girls no problem. It is really one of the places where my success rate is higher in Brazil.
In Vitoria is harder to access without previous social circle because they are more suspicious of foreigners. Focus on getting to know people and building social proof.
This physical appearance is easily found on the average mineira Girl. And they like to cook!!
+ Exotic Value as a Gringo
Norte e Nordeste (Bahia , Ceara , Pernambuco , Rio Grande do Norte (Natal) , etc
If you want the most exotic and far-from-America experience then Nordeste is a no-brainer.
Beautiful beaches and sceneries , Laid back attitude and low cost opportunities. Here your dollar will go further .
If you are white skinned and good –looking you will clean house here. As a Paulista I was treated almost like a celebrity in some places , girls look at you as if you were a rockstar or something , even though that are tons of tourists in the area.
On the downside , it is the poorest region of Brazil so you will have to deal with beggars ,starving kids harassing you on the streets for money , and tons of shady characters trying to sell you garbage and gringo-charging(charging a higher fee because you are an outsider) you for services and goods.
The attitude is incredible in Nordeste , the motto “Sorria , você esta na Bahia) (Smile ,you are in Bahia) says it all. Its very easy to make friends and have a good time . The weather is also fantastic (If you like hot weather)
Girls: Mostly Brown/Black skinned . Large African community.
NightLife: Small , few options ,but some good places to go.
average Nordestina Girl:
SUL - Southern States (Rio Grande do Sul (Porto Alegre) ,Paraná (Curitiba) , Santa Catarina (Florianopolis)
Gauchos are very proud of their origins and traditions.Their society is based on values such as family , blood-line , respect ,courage and honor. It is common to hear other Brazilians joking about this whole Gaucho Macho culture ,saying often that they are closet gays and stuff.
But actually the South is the most efficient and developed region in Brazil and they have plenty of motives to be proud of their homeland. This is by far my favorite region in Brazil.
In SUL , people tend to be polite but somewhat reserved and skeptical at first. Similar to the vibe in a North European country. But after talking with them for a while , the Ice melts and the Brazilian vibe flourishes .
But don’t expect the hospitality that you will find in Nordeste.
I recommend Florianopolis because it is a very beautiful Island with marvelous beaches and mountains, combined with Mediterranean EU/Nordic looking girls.
Tons of argentinas there in the summer so it’s a good place to get your argie flag with less effort.
Points up if you are black and swole, I usually saw mediocre looking brown/black guys making out with beautiful argies near canasvieras beach. I think they dig the black / hip – hop look.
Curitiba is a nice and developed urban area ,but the girls are tougher than in SP.
I recommend going to the small / medium cities in Rio Grande do Sul state to swoop incredible girls with less effort. Large German /Italian community in this region. Male friends / Social circle needed.
It is no surprise that 90% of the Brazilian models come from here. But you gotta dig the Nordic / White look.
Nightlife: Good , lots of options.
Attitude: reserved ,polite .Not so money-driven like SP.
A beautiful Gaucha holding a Chimarrão , a popular beverage in the south.
Oktoberfest in Blumenau, Santa Catarina. As you can see large German influence on the region.
Centro Oeste ( Goias and Brazilia)
I’ve never visited the region but from what I’ve heard the girls there are gorgeous ,and sertanejo(country music) culture is huge , especially in Goias.Go if you want a hot-bodied cow girl. They tend to be easy.
Brasilia is our Washington DC where the federal govt. is so there are plenty of money-chasers.
Other guys on the forum could go further on the area than myself.
Totem pole of racial attractiveness
Considering the average view in the country this is what I can say about this:
Blond: Top of the chain on most regions. If you are good looking you will clean house almost everywhere. Avoid the South states to increase your exotic value.
When TV Show “The OC” was being broadcasted here , the character Ryan was huge here.All the girls were dreaming with a guy like that. If you have strong blue eyes more points for you.
Black/Brown: No exotic value . There tons of black guys everywhere and they are often the poorest. Show DHV and dress classy to stand-out. As an English-speaking gringo , points up.
Latin / Darker Features : No exotic value . Rely on Game , looks and DHV as usual.
Asian: Regarded as “Rich” in some places , avoid SP to increase your exotic value. One of the biggest players I know here is Asian. He bangs girls who could be on the cover of GQ/Playboy.
There is the small dick / bad lay stigma, but you can overplay it by being funny and good looking
Arab / Persian: Nada. You will look like a local
FAQ
Now some examples of PM’s I received about Brazil.
Q: Mr Gm, I went to Brazil looking for Brown skinned chicks but the girls were white and had bitch-shields.I was highly disappointed,do you think that it was due to the fact that I were in Florianopolis?
A: Yes, for brown skin and easy lays you should have gone up north. Southern cities can be more like Germany than like the cliché Brazilian image.
Q: I went to Sao Paulo and really didn’t see many stunners on the streets. Hot girls were only on clubs and malls. It is really like this or It was bad logistics?
A:Well,there are some places like Jardins, Faria Lima etc where you will see model-looking girls walking on the streets. But these places are few and far.
To be honest on an average I saw more pretty faces in the streets in Portugal and Spain than in Sao Paulo. But Brazil wins when it comes to body quality and the number of hot girls in clubs and bars.
Blame the car culture in Sao Paulo.
Q: I keep reading Mixx stating about 60-year-old men in Speedos kicking soccer balls in the beach instead of Adriana Limas, Giselles and Ambrosios.Whats your opinion about it?
A:Yes, in beaches and summer spots will can go the wrong places if don’t know where to go. People tend to stay in “tribes” , often located in certain spots in a beach or beaches with a youger crowd. I think Mixx had a bad experience, but I’m sure you can find Hot Girls in any beach in Rio.
But I got to agree with him on butterfaces tough, there are plenty of these here in Brazil. Portugal was better in the average face quality. But in Sao Paulo and specially in the South there are few butterfaces than in Rio.
Q: I don't like the world Gringo.Don't you guys find it disrespectful.
A:I Agree that calling every foreigner a Gringo is too simple and stupid , but thats just the way it is. It is not disrespectful at all if a girl calls you Gringo.
Some girls from Norte e Nordeste in this dutch video:
*You can actually see at 1:33 an old guy wearing speedos kicking a Soccer ball!! LOL MIXX
average Cariocas talking about differences between Gringos and Brazilian guys.
Basically they are bitching that the Brazilian men is too rude/aggresive and the Gringo tends to be more polite (Ie Betas buying stuff for them, cumpliment and cuddle BS) but overall less sexy in bed. Don't be that guy!
Some Southern miss small town Gaucha contest.Smells a lil bit like scandinavia right?
I think it’s about time for me do Break down the scene here from my own experience/opinion living and banging in this continental South-American country.
First of all, keep in mind that Brazil is a huge country, with a population of almost 200 million people.
So it will be much more diverse than Colombia or Argentina and it is not like Sweden where almost everybody comes from the same gene pool (9 Million People)
As a result, choosing which country/city to stay in Brazil will DRAMATICALLY change your experience. Brazil is in reality a collection of several small countries (states) packed together by the same language and few cultural similarities.
Brazil is HUGELY socially divided, in the same cities there will be places that look like Switzerland and others who could easily be somewhere in Nigeria or Haiti. Girls quality will change RADICALLY depending on social status.
Also, it’s important to say that I look more like the average Portuguese/Italian guy than the average Brazilian guy in the streets, who often has some African/brown features mixed with European features.
So the views I’ll share here probably were affected by how I look and how my racial/social status is perceived by locals of a determined region/state.
In addition I’m a Young guy so my experience comes from dealing mostly with under 30 yr old girls and spots.
I will report from what I’ve seen and learned in the most important regions, I’ll skip places that I’ve never visited nor have experience with locals.
Rio de Janeiro
Is for Brazil what LA, Hollywood is for the US. Home of Globo Network, the largest media conglomerate in Brazil , responsible for producing the world-famous Brazilian telenovelas and the most successful Brazilian movies.
Wannabe actors/singers from all places in Brazil and Latin America go to Rio to live the dream. So you will find lots of posers and vain/shallow people there (Go to POSTO 9 in Praia da Barra to see some specimens).
Also Rio is by far the most visited and famous city in Brazil. This means that tons of thirsty Americans, Italians and so on come to Rio to pussy-hunt. This means that almost all Cariocas have experience meeting/banging gringos. So by solely being a foreigner won’t be a game-changer. But use the “Gringo factor” with game and funny lines to see good results.
Night Life: Good clubs, many options of bars, samba spots and more laid back venues.
I couldn’t go any further than Roosh did on Brazil compendium.
Girls: Mostly tanned/Brown skin . Some EU looking here and there. Plenty of stunners and hot bodied girls on the beach / calçadão. Although you will definitely find bitchy attitude, the average Carioca is laid back, funny and open.
- Exotic value as a gringo
São Paulo city and State
If Rio is Hollywood , São Paulo is our NYC.
As the largest financial center in Latin America , professionals and money-chasing men and women come here to “make it”. You will see lots of variety regarding race , looks and attitude.
Your set of options is so wide here that you can feel overwhelmed and confused in SP. It is crucial to know where to go and when to go first hand. Going as loose cannon will lead invariably to disappointment.
Yes, it is expensive for Latin America standards but it is truly a city for all pockets and tastes. From the G to the backpacker bum. Nightlife is incredible.
São Paulo is easily the most Americanized city in Brazil. If at first this means a high level of development , English speakers , cosmopolitan vibe and acess to culture , on the other hand there are some important down sides of the exposure to the anglosphere culture.
Paulistas grew up watching crappy American sitcoms ( 2 and a half men , friends , 90210 etc) and Girls are HIGHLY influenced by Sex and the city / Gossip Girl.
This means they dream about marrying “MR BIG” and you American folks know well what that means first hand. Shitty girls wondering why a tall, rich and handsome guy won’t show up on their doors.
In SP like any big metropolitan area people are always in a hurry and with money on their minds.
Unfortunately is not unusual to hear the same crap that you hear from your typical DC girl , especially in trendy/high end spots .
” Do you have and MBA ? Where do you work ? What you drive ?” BS.
They will try to fit you in the Beta provider Role. Avoid the trap.
When in SP ,It’s a good thing to stick to the middle/high class neighborhoods and financial districts like Paulista AV. , Faria Lima , Berrini . In those places you’ll see tons of fly girls on buses ,cars and on the streets. I see smoking fly girls everyday on my way to work.
It’s important to acknowledge that Sao Paulo is very based on car culture and mall culture. The public transport is not very good and I know many girls who simply don’t walk on the streets, they go everywhere by car. This can lead to disappointment, because in several places you will only see ugly people walking in the streets. So one more time location and proper research is crucial when choosing where to stay in SP.
Clubs and malls are better options to find fly girls , there you will find what Brazil is all about, and not walking downtown. High-heels everywhere. Paulistanas avoid flip-flops.
The small cities in the state are very good, with tons of good looking and less-bitchy girls.
+Exotic value as a gringo
Girls you easily find in SP venues:
Girls: Mostly southern EU Looking (White skin / dark hair) few blondes and a good portion of black /brown skin . Tons of Asians.
Overall Attitude: Always in a hurry , money –chasers , gold-diggers and down-to-earth strugglers. Open to day game and ONS / SNL
Night Life : World class venues , lots of places to go
Minas Gerais (Belo Horizonte) and Espirito Santo (Vitoria)
More Family oriented and church-goer .I find both states similar regarding attitude.
Belo Horizonte is very metropolitan so it is more prone to ONS / Western culture.
Overall Minas is a good place for nurture Girls. There girls are raised to marry a good provider and to take care of their husband and kids. If someday I decide to look for a Brazilian wife, I’ll look in Minas.
Social circle is important in minas but people there are more open than in Vitoria,Espirito Santo. It is good to make some (male) friends and then let them introduce you to the girls.
In Minas with a “Good guy , prince charming vibe” you can swoop family girls no problem. It is really one of the places where my success rate is higher in Brazil.
In Vitoria is harder to access without previous social circle because they are more suspicious of foreigners. Focus on getting to know people and building social proof.
This physical appearance is easily found on the average mineira Girl. And they like to cook!!
+ Exotic Value as a Gringo
Norte e Nordeste (Bahia , Ceara , Pernambuco , Rio Grande do Norte (Natal) , etc
If you want the most exotic and far-from-America experience then Nordeste is a no-brainer.
Beautiful beaches and sceneries , Laid back attitude and low cost opportunities. Here your dollar will go further .
If you are white skinned and good –looking you will clean house here. As a Paulista I was treated almost like a celebrity in some places , girls look at you as if you were a rockstar or something , even though that are tons of tourists in the area.
On the downside , it is the poorest region of Brazil so you will have to deal with beggars ,starving kids harassing you on the streets for money , and tons of shady characters trying to sell you garbage and gringo-charging(charging a higher fee because you are an outsider) you for services and goods.
The attitude is incredible in Nordeste , the motto “Sorria , você esta na Bahia) (Smile ,you are in Bahia) says it all. Its very easy to make friends and have a good time . The weather is also fantastic (If you like hot weather)
Girls: Mostly Brown/Black skinned . Large African community.
NightLife: Small , few options ,but some good places to go.
average Nordestina Girl:
SUL - Southern States (Rio Grande do Sul (Porto Alegre) ,Paraná (Curitiba) , Santa Catarina (Florianopolis)
Gauchos are very proud of their origins and traditions.Their society is based on values such as family , blood-line , respect ,courage and honor. It is common to hear other Brazilians joking about this whole Gaucho Macho culture ,saying often that they are closet gays and stuff.
But actually the South is the most efficient and developed region in Brazil and they have plenty of motives to be proud of their homeland. This is by far my favorite region in Brazil.
In SUL , people tend to be polite but somewhat reserved and skeptical at first. Similar to the vibe in a North European country. But after talking with them for a while , the Ice melts and the Brazilian vibe flourishes .
But don’t expect the hospitality that you will find in Nordeste.
I recommend Florianopolis because it is a very beautiful Island with marvelous beaches and mountains, combined with Mediterranean EU/Nordic looking girls.
Tons of argentinas there in the summer so it’s a good place to get your argie flag with less effort.
Points up if you are black and swole, I usually saw mediocre looking brown/black guys making out with beautiful argies near canasvieras beach. I think they dig the black / hip – hop look.
Curitiba is a nice and developed urban area ,but the girls are tougher than in SP.
I recommend going to the small / medium cities in Rio Grande do Sul state to swoop incredible girls with less effort. Large German /Italian community in this region. Male friends / Social circle needed.
It is no surprise that 90% of the Brazilian models come from here. But you gotta dig the Nordic / White look.
Nightlife: Good , lots of options.
Attitude: reserved ,polite .Not so money-driven like SP.
A beautiful Gaucha holding a Chimarrão , a popular beverage in the south.
Oktoberfest in Blumenau, Santa Catarina. As you can see large German influence on the region.
Centro Oeste ( Goias and Brazilia)
I’ve never visited the region but from what I’ve heard the girls there are gorgeous ,and sertanejo(country music) culture is huge , especially in Goias.Go if you want a hot-bodied cow girl. They tend to be easy.
Brasilia is our Washington DC where the federal govt. is so there are plenty of money-chasers.
Other guys on the forum could go further on the area than myself.
Totem pole of racial attractiveness
Considering the average view in the country this is what I can say about this:
Blond: Top of the chain on most regions. If you are good looking you will clean house almost everywhere. Avoid the South states to increase your exotic value.
When TV Show “The OC” was being broadcasted here , the character Ryan was huge here.All the girls were dreaming with a guy like that. If you have strong blue eyes more points for you.
Black/Brown: No exotic value . There tons of black guys everywhere and they are often the poorest. Show DHV and dress classy to stand-out. As an English-speaking gringo , points up.
Latin / Darker Features : No exotic value . Rely on Game , looks and DHV as usual.
Asian: Regarded as “Rich” in some places , avoid SP to increase your exotic value. One of the biggest players I know here is Asian. He bangs girls who could be on the cover of GQ/Playboy.
There is the small dick / bad lay stigma, but you can overplay it by being funny and good looking
Arab / Persian: Nada. You will look like a local
FAQ
Now some examples of PM’s I received about Brazil.
Q: Mr Gm, I went to Brazil looking for Brown skinned chicks but the girls were white and had bitch-shields.I was highly disappointed,do you think that it was due to the fact that I were in Florianopolis?
A: Yes, for brown skin and easy lays you should have gone up north. Southern cities can be more like Germany than like the cliché Brazilian image.
Q: I went to Sao Paulo and really didn’t see many stunners on the streets. Hot girls were only on clubs and malls. It is really like this or It was bad logistics?
A:Well,there are some places like Jardins, Faria Lima etc where you will see model-looking girls walking on the streets. But these places are few and far.
To be honest on an average I saw more pretty faces in the streets in Portugal and Spain than in Sao Paulo. But Brazil wins when it comes to body quality and the number of hot girls in clubs and bars.
Blame the car culture in Sao Paulo.
Q: I keep reading Mixx stating about 60-year-old men in Speedos kicking soccer balls in the beach instead of Adriana Limas, Giselles and Ambrosios.Whats your opinion about it?
A:Yes, in beaches and summer spots will can go the wrong places if don’t know where to go. People tend to stay in “tribes” , often located in certain spots in a beach or beaches with a youger crowd. I think Mixx had a bad experience, but I’m sure you can find Hot Girls in any beach in Rio.
But I got to agree with him on butterfaces tough, there are plenty of these here in Brazil. Portugal was better in the average face quality. But in Sao Paulo and specially in the South there are few butterfaces than in Rio.
Q: I don't like the world Gringo.Don't you guys find it disrespectful.
A:I Agree that calling every foreigner a Gringo is too simple and stupid , but thats just the way it is. It is not disrespectful at all if a girl calls you Gringo.
Some girls from Norte e Nordeste in this dutch video:
*You can actually see at 1:33 an old guy wearing speedos kicking a Soccer ball!! LOL MIXX
average Cariocas talking about differences between Gringos and Brazilian guys.
Basically they are bitching that the Brazilian men is too rude/aggresive and the Gringo tends to be more polite (Ie Betas buying stuff for them, cumpliment and cuddle BS) but overall less sexy in bed. Don't be that guy!
Some Southern miss small town Gaucha contest.Smells a lil bit like scandinavia right?
Chicks need to be on rotation like a Netflix queue