[zatara]

giama really knows his stuff. Well worth a +1 rep.

I've been gone from London a while now, and my experiences were predominantly with white British girls in London rather than black/mixed race, but the story was similar in my experience.. While not quite as bad as the black/mixed race scene they weren't far off. Pretty much the only way to get a good looking girl without an attitude was to meet a middle class girl who'd just moved to the city, so she hadn't been corrupted by the awful dating market yet. And who also didn't have any interest in the nightlife or instagram attention whoring, so she might stay reasonable in the medium/long term. Which is obviously fairly rare.

For lots of white collar careers London is one of, if not the best, place on the planet to be. For game, weather 8 months of the year, and lifestyle though its just slowly soul destroying. My advice to anyone is to do a couple years there to get work experience/titles, then get out.

[wellrockthecity]

@giama you might be into something but a little bit too pessimistic.
I know a tons of Brazilians in London and some of them have attractive wives which are definitely not prostitutes. These girls work as ccountants, doctors, nurses etc.
Same for other educated South Americans that wants to live in a safer place where English is the first language but can't or don't want to be in Miami.
London is the obvious next choice as they most likely already have the EU passport, there is a big community and its well connected to South America.
Generalising in such a massive city its dangerous because you have so many different people from every stage in their life.

One thing that you are absolutely spot on its the way girls change their attitude after living there for a while. I would extend this to guys as well. The bad weather, constant stress, shitty diet and the fact that the native population is very introverted makes everyone very apathetic about life. Thats where it comes the alcohol in play that serves as social lubricant.
We don't need that in Southern Europe or in South America because we are already outgoing in nature.

While comparing London vs South America the latter its obviously a no brainer for girls unless you want a lot of variety in races (it can get a bit boring banging always the same nationality after a while which is true for most of Latin America). In the same way if you want to make money or live the vibrant big city life with a solid group of mates in your early 20s when you don't mind sharing flat etc. London would be a top choice in Europe.

[giama]

(04-29-2019 12:09 PM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

@giama you might be into something but a little bit too pessimistic.
I know a tons of Brazilians in London and some of them have attractive wives which are definitely not prostitutes. These girls work as ccountants, doctors, nurses etc.
Same for other educated South Americans that wants to live in a safer place where English is the first language but can't or don't want to be in Miami.
London is the obvious next choice as they most likely already have the EU passport, there is a big community and its well connected to South America.
Generalising in such a massive city its dangerous because you have so many different people from every stage in their life.

One thing that you are absolutely spot on its the way girls change their attitude after living there for a while. I would extend this to guys as well. The bad weather, constant stress, shitty diet and the fact that the native population is very introverted makes everyone very apathetic about life. Thats where it comes the alcohol in play that serves as social lubricant.
We don't need that in Southern Europe or in South America because we are already outgoing in nature.

While comparing London vs South America the latter its obviously a no brainer for girls unless you want a lot of variety in races (it can get a bit boring banging always the same nationality after a while which is true for most of Latin America). In the same way if you want to make money or live the vibrant big city life with a solid group of mates in your early 20s when you don't mind sharing flat etc. London would be a top choice in Europe.

Respect, yeh i was grossly over generalising i guess to hammer home a point, and i wouldnt extend that to married accountants, professionals etc.

But single women in there 20s and 30s with no profession, and are attractive, that come here, i will always think hmmm there likely to be in some form of sex industry even if its webcamming. I saw a girl the other day waiting at the bus stop in clapham, gorgeous, shes a webcam model, i cant forget a beautiful face.

And yeh a lot of the guys attitudes are bad particularly in East and North London, where everybody lives on top of each other, East is in particular a desert for quality women. very dense areas lots of tough scruffy immigrant men hanging on street, dirty area everybody unhappy looking, very busy very stressful, thats where the majority of knife crime occurs (north and east), south London (outside of Brixton) isnt actually that bad for knife crime if you look at the heat map.

a lot of London guys arent getting women so there is a lot of tension one of the reasons knife crime and general hatred towards other men is rampant.

Your point on social lubrication is 100% right, men cant even interact with 6+s and that pisses them off. Powerless. men without power get angry. If they felt a sense of power by having the ability to smash 6s and 7s and live in reasonable conditions they would chill out and stop with the fake male bravado.

Its no surpise male suicide in the west is so high right now, some people have no access to the beach or nature. And have to date overweight entitled whales, struggliing to have decent living conditions and only getting tinder matches of underwhelming chics.

Ultimately both men and women are trying to get there best catches above what there really worth which is resulting in a lot of deep unsatisfaction in western society.
What will be interesting is when the first TRUE social media generation hit the wall, so all these girls that are 21 now that grew up with social media, there lifes will collapse at 30-35

Luckily for me i travel but many guys do not know about the travelling side of things as it pertains to women.

[giama]

Map of London Gangs, and map of london knife murders they have become out of control, society is broken
As you can see the violence is actually worse north of the river. North and East.

My guys please dont have kids here as any male child you have in London can be effected by this.

Men have a primal need for sex (preferably from good looking women) and money to live good and afford to run a family and both are hard to achieve in London. There are many other factors that contribute to this i know. But this plays a part in the angry result

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[giama]

Oh and guess what rapes are on the increase as well

"The number of rape offences recorded by police in England and Wales alone between March 2017 and 2018 hit 53,977, up from an already high 41,150 registered 12 months before, according to statistics released by the police."

So rape went up 30% in 1 year. Trust me the place is trash and going to get worse and worse.

On the weekend a man in a white van raped 2 women by kidnapping in broad daylight.

[N°6]

I wonder what the inceldom rate is in the UK.

I can’t see it much lower than the US’ 30%.

[khalidkcl]

(04-29-2019 12:44 PM)giama Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 12:09 PM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

@giama you might be into something but a little bit too pessimistic.
I know a tons of Brazilians in London and some of them have attractive wives which are definitely not prostitutes. These girls work as ccountants, doctors, nurses etc.
Same for other educated South Americans that wants to live in a safer place where English is the first language but can't or don't want to be in Miami.
London is the obvious next choice as they most likely already have the EU passport, there is a big community and its well connected to South America.
Generalising in such a massive city its dangerous because you have so many different people from every stage in their life.

One thing that you are absolutely spot on its the way girls change their attitude after living there for a while. I would extend this to guys as well. The bad weather, constant stress, shitty diet and the fact that the native population is very introverted makes everyone very apathetic about life. Thats where it comes the alcohol in play that serves as social lubricant.
We don't need that in Southern Europe or in South America because we are already outgoing in nature.

While comparing London vs South America the latter its obviously a no brainer for girls unless you want a lot of variety in races (it can get a bit boring banging always the same nationality after a while which is true for most of Latin America). In the same way if you want to make money or live the vibrant big city life with a solid group of mates in your early 20s when you don't mind sharing flat etc. London would be a top choice in Europe.

Respect, yeh i was grossly over generalising i guess to hammer home a point, and i wouldnt extend that to married accountants, professionals etc.

But single women in there 20s and 30s with no profession, and are attractive, that come here, i will always think hmmm there likely to be in some form of sex industry even if its webcamming. I saw a girl the other day waiting at the bus stop in clapham, gorgeous, shes a webcam model, i cant forget a beautiful face.

And yeh a lot of the guys attitudes are bad particularly in East and North London, where everybody lives on top of each other, East is in particular a desert for quality women. very dense areas lots of tough scruffy immigrant men hanging on street, dirty area everybody unhappy looking, very busy very stressful, thats where the majority of knife crime occurs (north and east), south London (outside of Brixton) isnt actually that bad for knife crime if you look at the heat map.

a lot of London guys arent getting women so there is a lot of tension one of the reasons knife crime and general hatred towards other men is rampant.

Your point on social lubrication is 100% right, men cant even interact with 6+s and that pisses them off. Powerless. men without power get angry. If they felt a sense of power by having the ability to smash 6s and 7s and live in reasonable conditions they would chill out and stop with the fake male bravado.

Its no surpise male suicide in the west is so high right now, some people have no access to the beach or nature. And have to date overweight entitled whales, struggliing to have decent living conditions and only getting tinder matches of underwhelming chics.

Ultimately both men and women are trying to get there best catches above what there really worth which is resulting in a lot of deep unsatisfaction in western society.
What will be interesting is when the first TRUE social media generation hit the wall, so all these girls that are 21 now that grew up with social media, there lifes will collapse at 30-35

Luckily for me i travel but many guys do not know about the travelling side of things as it pertains to women.

As a Londoner I couldn't agree any more!

I also travel to Africa and recently Latin America (booked for July). I'm most likely going to marry someone from one of these countries at some point in my life. London is a place for me to make money, bang the odd girl and improve my career. Nothing more.

[giama]

@khalid

Whatever you do when you marry them dont bring them back to the UK.

ask her if she wants to move to the UK if she says "yes" she's no good, if she says "no" why would i move there all my family and happiness are here, then she is a keeper.

The minute she gets here she will monkey branch.

There are so much fine women in south america and Africa that its ridiculous. Thats the way forward. Women in the UK get nandos for dates, if they dont like it then they can bounce. we are the prize.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(04-29-2019 12:44 PM)giama Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 12:09 PM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  

@giama you might be into something but a little bit too pessimistic.
I know a tons of Brazilians in London and some of them have attractive wives which are definitely not prostitutes. These girls work as ccountants, doctors, nurses etc.
Same for other educated South Americans that wants to live in a safer place where English is the first language but can't or don't want to be in Miami.
London is the obvious next choice as they most likely already have the EU passport, there is a big community and its well connected to South America.
Generalising in such a massive city its dangerous because you have so many different people from every stage in their life.

One thing that you are absolutely spot on its the way girls change their attitude after living there for a while. I would extend this to guys as well. The bad weather, constant stress, shitty diet and the fact that the native population is very introverted makes everyone very apathetic about life. Thats where it comes the alcohol in play that serves as social lubricant.
We don't need that in Southern Europe or in South America because we are already outgoing in nature.

While comparing London vs South America the latter its obviously a no brainer for girls unless you want a lot of variety in races (it can get a bit boring banging always the same nationality after a while which is true for most of Latin America). In the same way if you want to make money or live the vibrant big city life with a solid group of mates in your early 20s when you don't mind sharing flat etc. London would be a top choice in Europe.

Respect, yeh i was grossly over generalising i guess to hammer home a point, and i wouldnt extend that to married accountants, professionals etc.

But single women in there 20s and 30s with no profession, and are attractive, that come here, i will always think hmmm there likely to be in some form of sex industry even if its webcamming. I saw a girl the other day waiting at the bus stop in clapham, gorgeous, shes a webcam model, i cant forget a beautiful face.

And yeh a lot of the guys attitudes are bad particularly in East and North London, where everybody lives on top of each other, East is in particular a desert for quality women. very dense areas lots of tough scruffy immigrant men hanging on street, dirty area everybody unhappy looking, very busy very stressful, thats where the majority of knife crime occurs (north and east), south London (outside of Brixton) isnt actually that bad for knife crime if you look at the heat map.

a lot of London guys arent getting women so there is a lot of tension one of the reasons knife crime and general hatred towards other men is rampant.

Your point on social lubrication is 100% right, men cant even interact with 6+s and that pisses them off. Powerless. men without power get angry. If they felt a sense of power by having the ability to smash 6s and 7s and live in reasonable conditions they would chill out and stop with the fake male bravado.

Its no surpise male suicide in the west is so high right now, some people have no access to the beach or nature. And have to date overweight entitled whales, struggliing to have decent living conditions and only getting tinder matches of underwhelming chics.

Ultimately both men and women are trying to get there best catches above what there really worth which is resulting in a lot of deep unsatisfaction in western society.
What will be interesting is when the first TRUE social media generation hit the wall, so all these girls that are 21 now that grew up with social media, there lifes will collapse at 30-35

Luckily for me i travel but many guys do not know about the travelling side of things as it pertains to women.

This is a noticeable characteristic women from the Anglosphere: That if she doesn't consider you above her in SMV, then she won't even afford you a minimal respect in terms of basic social pleasantries, but will just blank you and pretend that you don't exist. It's bad enough knowing that you're shut out of the dating market for even mediocre pussy, but it adds insult to injury when women rub it in men's face in this way, so the attitudinal edge to be found amongst many men - especially in those areas which are a cockfest - isn't hard to fathom.

This is in contrast to women from non-Anglo cultures who will at least interact with men they don't find sexually attractive, out of a basic sense of respect towards men that their societies - still - socialise their women into showing. For how much longer is, of course, a moot point, given the spread of feminism and the increasing uptake in social media technology across the planet.

[thedarkknight]

Not gonna lie. As a dude who lived in london for 25 years and now in the east Midlands for the next one and a bit.

I've never banged a British born chick.

This country is extremely feminist, emotionally repressed and many people are depressed.

I'm no Denzel but most of the people are out of shape and ugly.

Come here to earn but not for the women.

I legitimately don't know how people can have sex regularly with most of these women. I kid you not.

TDK

[BroodingSea]

@giama nailed it lads. The is also the observation to be made that none of the pua lads down there are pulling British girls. Its all overseas girls. For many of the reasons above. I've tried daygame on local North Eastern girls (4 and 5) for the experiment and they truly look down their nose at you. I mean half of them are skint, entitled and uneducated single mothers who have debt, drink too much and covered in cheap tatoos, fully supported by the state. Yet they still think they carry more smv than you.

[BroodingSea]

@giama nailed it lads. The is also the observation to be made that none of the PUA/Daygame lads down London are pulling British girls. Its all overseas girls. For many of the reasons Giama states above. I've tried daygame on local North Eastern British girls (4s and 5s) for the experiment and they truly look down their nose at you. I mean half of them are skint, entitled and uneducated single mothers who have debt, drink too much and are covered in cheap tatoos. They are fully supported by the state. Yet they still think they carry more SMV than you.

[Conquistador]

Not needing men in itself is high smv. Are these the so called chavs I've heard about. Or are these women above chavs?

I'm seriously considering going down there to check out that freak show you guys call the UK. But I'm probably going to go to Bristol or Cardiff. Maybe I'll go to London for a day or two. If giama or anyone else wants to meet up I'm down.

[lonewolf1992]

haha and I used think british girls looked like a modest version Rachel weizs, young emma watson or natalie portman. That is the looks I look for in a wife. Cheers.

[Heuristics]

Last time I was in London I thought i was gonna get chucked in the slammer for my un-pc views. After seeing what happened to CountDankula, I saw that the place lost any remaining semblance of freedom. Couple with the Tommy Robinson debacle, and it looks like it's over for all white males with views right of center in the UK.

I have found British women to be highly promiscuous, libtard, socialist (even worse), and so fucking brainwashed when it comes to state enforced multiculturalism. I do like the fact that the vast majority of police are unarmed, and that I likely won't be killed in an interaction with them, unlike american police, but there are deeper problems. The no-go zones for example. Many areas of London are anarchic and subject to massive knife-crimes and property crimes. The schools are breeding grounds for extremism and in terms of wealth, London is extremely stratified for a Western city. So much foreign wealth in London. But, back to the women!

Literally every womyn in the UK is guaranteed to have gone through a stage in college, or after secondary school if she never attended college, where there was heavy casual sex, alcoholism, and drug use. That's why every UK woman is a "slag" as the brits call it. Post wall happens disturbingly early. British women simply cannot handle the Island lifestyle without hitting the wall years prematurely. Marriage rate is extremely low, and every semi attractive woman looks like the joker with caked on makeup. (Pic is related)



If you think women in the UK are bad, just wait until you get up to Scotland:



I would bang a bad bitch like Cheryl Cole, even though she is high mileage. There is something special about those Northern English girls and their accents, they really know how to doll-up:



Also a bitch like Nigella Lawson (Rothschild-tier British), who defiantly is a bad bitch, and gives off that Upstairs, Downstairs Posh vibe, complete with the hard partying and staying up all night drinking. One thing is for certain, she would have to make breakfast:



Not to mention men in the UK seem to have a lot of repressed anger for some reason, and always seem to be excessively stodgy unless they are drinking. You can guarantee the next day they will resort to their class-defined behavior. UK men are fun to drink with but any other time they are like walking zombies. Coincidentally any man in the UK who knows what's up with the sexual dynamic in the UK, chooses an eastern european girl, or Spainish raised girl with a brit passport over the native selection. That is what I have seen in my observations, at least.

[BroodingSea]

@heuristics excellent analysis. Love it when people visiting the UK get it like this. Being from the North (near Cheryl) I have to say I've never fancied her (even though small brunettes are my type). It's her penchant for fashion boyfriends and full arse tatoos that turn my stomach.

@conquistador I disagree slightly on the high smv/not bedding men correlation. A lot of these girls are turning down men way above them in smv owing to their egos artificially inflated through online attention.

[Cman]

Is anyone else considering a move to the US? Long term I think it would be good living somewhere south, because the girls would like the exotic accent and also you are closer to South America.

[Heuristics]

(05-01-2019 01:01 PM)Cman Wrote:  

Is anyone else considering a move to the US? Long term I think it would be good living somewhere south, because the girls would like the exotic accent and also you are closer to South America.

Girls in the American South and the Midwest definitely like foreign accents, and having a foreign BF to a lot of girls is almost like a status symbol. Logistically speaking the South is not bad, and in many ways the women are much different from east/west coast women.

[lika91]

Let me give you a current example experienced this week:

I am organising the social media presence of a sports entity here. Due to an article, Ive asked one of their female players to shoot a little video with me. She didnt know who was behind it and she was super friendly and helpful in the beginning with other things, always answering within 10 minutes time. We met subsequently and I need to stress that I did zero game or anything on her beside a little tease about her hairs when she was panically looking for a mirror before starting the video. So it was all professional and friendly, she also interacted a lot and seemed cool. However, afterwards Ive asked her for some information about another thing I needed two or three days later. It took her 2 days to answer, writing style is completely different, she also doesnt engage with our social media anymore, when she liked all of our posts before. Well...

[partyfowl]

The UK is a place I would never go simply because while my pastor's wife is British and based. I know she's the unicorn and the exception not the rule in Britain. The speech and weapon laws are draconian and have inspired so many Americans to mimic it unironically.

I would however fuck the everloving shit out of Nigella Lawson. However the fact so many Brits are still butthurt losing a colony makes them pretty still resentful of us Yanks from what I remember.

[AOC's Missing Boyfriend]

(05-02-2019 04:20 PM)partyfowl Wrote:  

The UK is a place I would never go simply because while my pastor's wife is British and based. I know she's the unicorn and the exception not the rule in Britain. The speech and weapon laws are draconian and have inspired so many Americans to mimic it unironically.

I would however fuck the everloving shit out of Nigella Lawson. However the fact so many Brits are still butthurt losing a colony makes them pretty still resentful of us Yanks from what I remember.

Lawson is a member of the tribe, so it would be inter-racial, by definition.

Also maybe has some weird proclivities:

[partyfowl]

(05-02-2019 04:53 PM)AOCs Missing Boyfriend Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 04:20 PM)partyfowl Wrote:  

The UK is a place I would never go simply because while my pastor's wife is British and based. I know she's the unicorn and the exception not the rule in Britain. The speech and weapon laws are draconian and have inspired so many Americans to mimic it unironically.

I would however fuck the everloving shit out of Nigella Lawson. However the fact so many Brits are still butthurt losing a colony makes them pretty still resentful of us Yanks from what I remember.

Lawson is a member of the tribe, so it would be inter-racial, by definition.

Also maybe has some weird proclivities:

Would happily handle that

Plus I only race mix now I have no issue with that

[adamf133]

yea i agree with the direction and points said re london. it's like a perfect storm to be and there's multiple factors that sucks your soul in this place.

1. Crazy cost of living, especially for rent / everyone living in shit house shares outside the top 10% if you're single in your 20s and 30s.

2. way too much immigration which creates no community cohesion - everywhere people are speaking different languages / no social interaction / no shared culture.

3. work work work culture no time for fun or to relax ppl just too stressed fighting for a seat on a train to even being able to walk down some streets during rush hour.

4. ultra politically correct/left-wing. as a working-class white Englishman living in this city, it's literally hell on earth - when you become a small minority in your own countries capital city you know things have fucked up big time. Every time you turn on the tv being told about "racism" or "sexism" is enough for anyone to lose the plot and want to escape.


for example, i went to mexico for a month banged 6 chicks easy 6-8 scale range come back to London and just can't be bothered for the bs to bang a 6 here easily twice to effort if not more.

[Switchez]

I mean, rent will become cheaper when more people start ditching the place.

I know I did

[AOC's Missing Boyfriend]

(05-03-2019 10:16 AM)adamf133 Wrote:  

yea i agree with the direction and points said re london. it's like a perfect storm to be and there's multiple factors that sucks your soul in this place.

1. Crazy cost of living, especially for rent / everyone living in shit house shares outside the top 10% if you're single in your 20s and 30s.

2. way too much immigration which creates no community cohesion - everywhere people are speaking different languages / no social interaction / no shared culture.

3. work work work culture no time for fun or to relax ppl just too stressed fighting for a seat on a train to even being able to walk down some streets during rush hour.

4. ultra politically correct/left-wing. as a working-class white Englishman living in this city, it's literally hell on earth - when you become a small minority in your own countries capital city you know things have fucked up big time. Every time you turn on the tv being told about "racism" or "sexism" is enough for anyone to lose the plot and want to escape.


for example, i went to mexico for a month banged 6 chicks easy 6-8 scale range come back to London and just can't be bothered for the bs to bang a 6 here easily twice to effort if not more.

Why the disconnect in many ways between NYC and London. Both are similar in a lot of ways. But almost universally NYC is preferred. Are london women stuck up? And where does the London daygame model and the gamers from London fit in... In many ways its like how a lot of guys come from toronto...