[SHAWNFLYNN]

For the most part, on my end anyhow, this thread has just about run its course. However, after returning from from the Tavan Tagoli yesterday, decided to stop by Café Amsterdam in UB for a cold beer. While sipping my suds, I saw a beautiful, tall, well put together Mongolian woman. She appeared to work in some professional capacity and asked if I could snap a quick photo (thinking of all of you on this board). She spoke excellent English, smiled, shook her head and said “go ahead”. I could tell that although she obviously resided in UB, was well educated and traveled. She did not pose, however continued with her business. Café Amsterdam is a popular stop for urban professionals, as it provides a western ambiance as well as the best WiFi in UB. As luck would have it, I still had my trusty Nikon D500 which I use for work, and did not have to resort to my standby phone to photograph her; therefore this photo is much better quality than the others I have posted. Allow me to say that although there are other ladies of this quality in UB, I would say she is in the top .01%. As previously mentioned, she is evidently well educated, and more than likely holding a management job at the Embassy, MCS Holding, Rio Tinto or one of the large international developers, mining corporations (possibly attorney, arbitrator, etc.). Keep in mind, women in Mongolia like her, are very selective because they can be.

On a side note, this is how to immediately gain the attention of a Mongolian woman. If anyone of you ever decide to travel to UB, and you are trying to strike up conversation with a Mongolian woman – talk to her about riding horses. Not only a great topic of conversation for her, however, she will feel immediately at ease and feel a bond with you much sooner. Mongolian women are ALL excellent horsemen. They are taught as children how to break/tame a wild horse, care for it, and ride as soon as they can sit on the horse. They even extract milk from mares for nourishment (kumis). Believe me, at one time, the lady in the photo did this as well.

[Transsimian]

(02-02-2017 12:32 PM)SHAWNFLYNN Wrote:  

As luck would have it, I still had my trusty Nikon D500 which I use for work, and did not have to resort to my standby phone to photograph her; therefore this photo is much better quality than the others I have posted.

It's not just your camera, the composition is perfect.

[roberto]

Man, she looks like a china doll. I'd far rather the other more asian looking cuties earlier in the thread.

Great pic though, thanks for sharing.

[Advance]

Interesting look for sure, although a bit hard on the cheekbones but I definitely wouldn't look away

[Heart Break Kid]

That girl looks pretty weird, which makes me wanna tap dat ass pretty hard.

[Heart Break Kid]

Anyone here have experience with Inner Mongolia? Is it a similar experience to visiting Mongolia, or is it too "Chinese"?

[SHAWNFLYNN]

@Advance: You are correct on the cheekbones. Some Mongolians have very pronounced cheekbones (distinct from other Asians). You will find ethnic Mongolians living in surrounding regions such as Khövsgöl Province have a more antediluvian and wild look about them. Mongols living in these regions are some of the most ethnically unchanged peoples left on the planet. Consider the Mongols expanded outward not the reverse.

@Heart break: I was here once (inner Mongolia) during my down time. This region is actually China. The vast majority of people I saw were Chinese (once you have been around the Mongols for a while, you can tell the difference quickly). However, many were mixed (Mongol/Chinese). There are less nomadic Mongolians than I would have expected to see, as most have abandoned their rural lifestyles in this region. Culturally, ethnic Chinese and Mongolians inner-breed with no compunction. In fact, it occurs regularly, something frowned upon in outer Mongolia. I can tell you that the Mongol women in this area were much more substantial (large/heavy) than the women in UB where I am headquartered. Unless you are looking for a gal to help on the farm and keep you warm in the winter, I would not be searching in inner Mongolia.

It is important that members on this board understand that Mongolians are a hard, nomadic people with a harsh and violent history. It is important you understand this if you plan to stay for an extended period of time and bond with the locals. Do not for one moment think they will understand your western values, or respect them. A first sojourn should be to UB, as many of the younger generation are “city kids” and adopting a more contemporary lifestyle thanks to the advent of the internet. It is also important you understand they do not even flinch at things which would create an upchuck reflex for most Europeans, and eat things with a smile which would make a western Billy goat puke. They do things for necessary survival that you and I would almost prefer to starve to death (will give example below). They do not resolve their differences through passionate debate, however, physically (often violently) – and that goes for both the men and women, at any station in life. They respect strength and courage above all else, and believe that weakness and cowardice is a cancer which must be eradicated. This is why I do not subscribe to western men marrying these women and bringing them to their homeland. Western men will never understand their mind or value system which is deeply rooted. For example, a timber wolf is a beautiful thing to observe in its natural state; however, when you attempt to relocate this wolf to your backyard to keep as a family pet. You love, nourish and care for this wolf; however, it is not long before the neighbor knocks on your door asking if you have seen his dog who has been missing, and your yard it destroyed. Before long, there will be a whole torn through your fence and the wolf gone forever – it is not fair to you or the wolf. In other words, the wolf shaped by thousands of years of evolution will never behave like a German Shepherd. Mongolian women are no different, they are magnificent to spend time with horseback riding and picnicking with on the Steppe’s; however, to bring them home would be ill advised. There are so many things which I have come to accept at face value, as I will never fully understand; and am finding more peace of mind in that I do not care to. Mongolians are a unique people indeed. To give an example, Mongolian women predominately tend to the livestock. They breed, train and sell horses. In the event they have a stallion who is not interested in breeding with a mare who is in her late estrous cycle, the Mongolian woman will tether the two horses together at the bridle with a 15 foot rope. She will then put on a pair of latex gloves, pour a silicone-base lubricant onto her hands and begin massaging the stallion’s penis with both hands until aroused. When the stallion becomes agitated she will stop and lead him to the rear of the mare to mount. There are additionally an inordinate amount of physically altercations between Mongolian women. Although elders have much influence among the tribes/clans, disputes or societal prominence is often determined by physical dominance or the threat thereof. Interestingly enough, Mongolians do not resort to weapons during physical altercations. There are almost never accounts of fatalities where weapons are used (i.e., guns, knives). However, the physical altercations are generally very brutal, violent and demonstrative as neither party will submit until they are no longer able to continue or the recipient of a debilitating injury. An example would be one womans face was recently bitten partially off by another woman during an altercation. It is important to remember that Mongol society is a hierarchy society driven by social dominance (survival of the fittest). If you look closely, you will see that most all Mongol women have scars intermittently on their body from the many hardships of their culture (i.e., falling off horses, fights, etc.).

I do not discourage anyone from removing Mongolia from their bucket list. I am only here as my job brought me this direction for a short stay. However, unless you remain in the city capital during your stay, you will be exposed to many things which will appear extreme to you. This is a country where they still use golden eagles to hunt, drink out of streams and eat things which you will not believe (i.e., [Mongolian Boodog (marmot cooked in its skin) ].

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Just wanted to add this last photo. This is another one of my Facebook friends from UB, Mongolia. She is an interpreter who works for one of the mining corporates. She is also very educated (National university of Mongolia graduate), and speaks seven languages. Again, IMHO in the upper .01%. The reason I am sharing her photo, is that she is 1/2 Mongolian - 1/2 Russian. You do not see this often, however this is the Eurasian result. The photo does not do her justice. She is very lovely in person.

[Advance]

Love it mate, she looks like she takes really good care of her.

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Was going through the images on my thumb drive and came across the following photo. The photo is of one of my work colleagues Yuri and his lady friend, Kubilai. Yuri, like me is a structural engineer from Saint Petersburg, Russia. I am here in primarily a consulting capacity (ensuring everything is done correctly) and Yuri is the senior engineer over the planning, development, design, blueprints, etc. Although most Russians are generally detached, Yuri is one of the “good guys” and has a personality as big as he is. With him, everything is in excess (including consumption of libations). Yuri is one of these people who have a thunderous laugh, always in a good mood (almost any occasion deserves a shot of something), and constantly expounding quotes or some Russian adage. He makes other Russians almost bearable to be around when he is in the mix (everyone loves Yuri). Our contracts are for the same duration and have come to know one another fairly well. Kubilai, the girl in the photo, is the daughter of one of the mining, labor contractors. Her father does exceedingly well and family lives in the Bella Vista apartment complex in UB. Kubilai is well educated and in addition to her native tongue, speaks impeccable English, good Korean and Mandarin, and conversational Russian. Kubilai has been raised in a more comfortable lifestyle (not all her life, however the preponderance) and displays a more refined nature; although you can sense she still possesses the hardy grit of the Mongols, and could throw off her heels and hop on a horse bareback, and gallop at full tilt if the urge hit her. My purpose for sharing this photo, is to show the quality of Mongolian women that are available to foreigners who have something on the ball (good careers) and come from developed countries (and as importantly, plan on returning). Kubilai is a good example of a young, tall, healthy and educated Mongolian woman residing in the city (she knows the joy of bumper-to-bumper daily UB traffic). I noted earlier in one of my posts that Mongolians are not age conscientious as are peoples in other parts of the world, especially to foreign professionals. Kubilai just recently turned 20 years old, whereas Yuri is 34. 20 is the median age that Mongolian women begin bearing children (careful Yuri). As you can see, Kubilai is crazy about Yuri. You may be wondering if Yuri has any design on taking Kubilai with him when he returns to Russia? The answer is NO. We have spoken on this matter a couple of times. Although Yuri is fond of Kubilai, the Russians tend to be much more practical in making life changing decisions. Russian men do not always lead with the heart, and are not easily swayed by sentiment (a woman’s tears). Yuri appreciates Kubilai for what she is, a beautiful example of an urban Mongolian woman – however, does not read more into the relationship then that. Yuri enjoys Kubilai unconditional attention, dinner companion, travel partner, informal roommate, lover, etc., however does not read more into the relationship then that. Yuri has been after me relentlessly to come visit him when all this is over in Saint Petersburg, Russia, as he has assured me that the most beautiful women in the world are from there. He has promised to set-me-up with a different beautiful women for each day of the week, each more stunning then the last (you have to know Yuri – who knows, I may take him up on this down the road). Although Yuri is “fond” of Kubilai, he understands that he would be complicating not only his life, however hers as well to take her away from her home to Russia, and just enjoying the moment as much as he can! Kubilai, I am sure has designs of returning to Russia with Yuri, however, there will be others. If I had to wager, Kubilai will end up marrying a wealthy Korean businessman. Firstly, Koreans have an insatiable affinity for Mongolian women (they are enamored by them). Koreans are additionally class conscientious. Kubilai meets all the requirements of a well-heeled Korean man and would fit comfortably in an Asian environment, although not of her own. She also speaks Korean and Mandarin (proficient English is additionally helpful in Korea). Women of this quality never seem to do without for long.

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Couldn't resist. Snapped a photo of this cute Mongol girl in the lobby, waiting to see the dentist. Living here for a while, easy to tell she is a city girl (don't ask me why). Although ALL Mongolian women dress up when in the city (UB), notice her dress though elegant, is a little more amorous than most Mongolian women would dress. Tells me she is making a statement that her value system is more contemporary and does not exist on a animal fat, kumis diet alone. Also, this is one of the very few dental offices in UB which conforms to western standards, and only the most well-to-do Mongolians are able to come here.

I know when my work gig is up, I may never return and want to ensure I get plenty of photos to remember my time here. BTW, I received a PM from a member asking me what I say to these women when asking to take their picture? My line is always the same, ".....you are by far the prettiest girl in UB, and would bother me the rest of my life if I did not have a photo to remember you by". Corny? Yes. However, Mongolian women "plume" when complimented by western men.

[Putin Closes]

One thing I always noticed the Mongolian women seemed to be more "busty" while keeping those good EA genetics. Only problem is a lot of their faces look a bit busted, but the one you posted looks a lot like one of my Chinese bangs, except with those much nicer cantaloupes. I've only banged one Mongolian, and she was a bit too aggressive for my tastes, but I am sure western men would love a bit of attitude. How is ULN during Nadaam?

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Thanks. I stated earlier in one of my posts, Mongolian women are not only taller, however much larger boned than other Asians which I believe gives them a stronger overall stature. You are also correct in that they are more outspoken and aggressive than other Asian women (tend to be adventure/thrill seekers). It took some getting used to, as they possess a hardy laugh and do not mind being outspoken in public. Unlike many Asian women who tend to be more reserved, Mongolian women do not mind competing for something or someone they want. In fact, they are fiercely competitive (it is in their blood). I have rode horses many times in my life (no cowboy mind you), however, I felt like a wimp each time I have ridden with one of these women (if you spend time with a Mongolian woman, you will end up on the back of a horse at some point). A Mongolian woman on horseback at full gallop across the Steppe’s is a beautiful thing. You will never see her happier, or freer – they are born to ride (and ride well). There are no exceptions to this rule, all Mongolian women are exceptional horseman. You have probably gathered that they are above and beyond my favorite Asian group.

Re: ULN during Nadaam, it is a madhouse. The airport consists of people from all over the world showing up. Steven Segal (washed up actor) routinely attends the event as well. The one thing that can be counted upon, every Mongol in the world will be here in July for the festival. It is a great time of pride for the people during these three days, and can see them as they once were. After the festival, everything returns to business as usual.

[Zanardi]

A bit offtopic: how is winter there and how you (and Mongolian people) get along with the temperatures there? I know it can be as low as -40, I personally never witnessed a temperature that low (the lowest temperature here in my lifetime was about -20) and I am extremely curious to read some first-hand experiences with this.

[TrippinBalls]

Not sure if this helps but my only encounter was a lapdance from a Mongolian stripper at New York Dolls. She was about 5'4, curvy petite and very pretty

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Great question and believe me, winter is something you learn to bundle up for here. The coldest I have seen during my stay in UB was last month (January), the lows averaged -25 and the lowest I saw was -30. When the temperatures drop below freezing, remember, dress warmly and layered. I do not skimp on quality foul weather clothing, I buy what works and do not look at the price. I’m a California boy, and after the first couple of weeks of cold weather (-5/-8) I was was able to acclimate to the cold. The first cold stings every part of your exposed body, however do become more acclimated as the cold progresses. The one thing that is hard to acclimate to is seeing the sun brightly shining, although it is -18 outside.

It additionally makes a difference what your daily routine is. If you are in UB hopping from warm building to warm car, you do not need to insulate as heavily. If you spend a couple days a week in the Gobi Desert (-30/-40) as do I, and many hours spent outside, then clothing is very important. I layer up, wear my , longjohns, thermal merino socks, Canada goose Callaghan parka, Baffin boots, wind stopper hat, lambs wool gloves, etc. I take no chances, this extreme weather can kill you. We always practice the “buddy system’ in the Gobi and ensure our “team leader” knows where we are, how long in the field, etc. If these precautions are not taken in these sub-freezing temperatures, a member of the team could sit down, dazed and confused due to hypothermia, and no one notices, too busy trying to stay warm themselves. There are many things you can do to make yourself more comfortable. I like coffee, so I drink coffee into the late afternoon. When I am in the Gobi, we drink hot water as well to stay hydrated.

The Mongolian people cope with these freezing temperatures beyond reason. You will always see expats, Embassy folks, etc., griping about the cold. To the Mongolians, the land is their mother and have acclimated to this climate to an unbelievable degree. Mongolians wear wool deel’s, woolen boots, fur hats, etc. to cope with the cold. However, unless the temperature drops below -8, -10, Mongolians will be seen wearing everyday clothing with a light to medium jacket (still can’t wrap my head around this) and show no effects from the biting cold weather (i.e., chills). It will not be uncommon to see Mongolian men in town, walking around in Levis, tee-shirt and tennis shoes topped by a ball cap in -10 weather; or young ladies wearing dresses, heels and a lite sweater in this same -10 weather. Mongolians do not begin layering up unless the weather drops below -10 or venture out into the Steppe’s. Mongolian Ger’s are heated by a small stove and will burn anything available to stay warm including animal dung. These stoves give off very little heat and am surprised they do not freeze to death. I have seen Mongolian families in the Ger district sitting outside communing around a bond fire in -15 weather wearing tee-shirts and Levis. I believe they are resigned to their life here, and have toughened up as a result of it. If you have ever seem Mongolian women in public, they are constantly hugging, or squeezed close together with their arms around one another. This is not only because they are a fraternal people, however a manner in sharing body heat to provide warmth.

[bumborass]

This thread makes me want to hit up Mongolia bad.

Feisty Asian chicks who like drinking and riding horses?

Sounds like my kind of place! I also want the bragging rights of banging some of Ghengis's great great granddaughters.

[kartik13]

I dont plan on visiting anytime soon, maybe one day in the near future. I hear that non white foreigners are not treated as well as white westerners. But how would a well dressed non white foreigner who looks "professional" do in the near future? Im of east indian descent (olive skin tone/Punjabi) , and I find these women attractive. I would dress my best, and I definately would look like someone from a western country. I would love to visit Mongolia for a temporary stay if possible. What do you guys think?

[Robert High Hawk]

Shawn Flynn you never cease to Amaze. A one man Mongolian wrecking crew! You definitely got some good samples there.

I spent a couple winter's there. You are spot on. It's a very different kind of cold most are used too because it's so dry. Also I found it to be a bit more manageable than I would have thought otherwise because there is a very strong culture of frequently dipping in quickly for a hot drink or beer. That kind of hydration helps out incredibly. I also found that being outside in the freezing air during a hangover helped it out quite a bit. Or at least it felt that way.

Ice fishing is a lot of fun there too, as is horseback riding in the snow. It's very surreal to be out in the countryside with just miles and miles of iced over hills. Sort of like the planet Hoth from StarWars. Shawn Flynn you should start uploading landscape pictures too!

I still don't want to go back to that place but it's wonderful to reminiss about it.

[SHAWNFLYNN]

Good day everyone. Firstly, received a three-day suspension for posting a couple of photos of Mongolian ladies I know. Apparently, there is a “forum rule” I was unaware that it is against guidelines to post photos of people you “know”; however, perfectly acceptable to post photos of people you “do not know”. Stranger than fiction, however, I can only shake my head and move on. I believe the offense was not in the photos I posted, however the lead moderator being an expat, taking exception to my depiction of how expats living permanently in Mongolia are treated as if they have the plague by the locals. Now worries. Once this thread expires, I will be moving on as I do not have time to visit online blogs routinely. I was simply posting here to give folks who have shown interest, a better understanding of Mongolia as a whole, from an American who has boots-on-the-grounds perspective. Sorry, but no more pictures of Mongolian ladies (apparently not appreciated here).

@Kartik13
Hey Kartik13. I would say go for it. You are correct, these women are very alluring. Robert High Hawk described it best in one of his former posts when he referred to them as the “Scandinavian Blondes of Asia”. It appears you are looking more for the “Club Bed” experience. I will say that the economy has improved and Mongolian women are not as much available for the “short-stay” boyfriend to show them a good time, as they once were. Or at least the women which you would care to spend time with.

It appears you are Canadian – that is what will send off fireworks with these ladies. The better quality ladies like the ones in the photos I have posted, are interested in long-term relationships, and as importantly, relationships that would provide a more opportunistic life abroad. Aside from being an American citizen, I would say that Canadians are second on their list for protentional partners, just edging out England and Australia (do not underestimate your Canadian citizenship – far outweighs your ethnicity). This in itself is a serious “gamechanger”. If you have a little game and civility, then I would say you will not have many lonely nights in UB. Just stay out of the “strip clubs” (frequented primarily by expats who are here permanently). Also, dress nice but casually (I’e., nice tee-shirt or casual shirt, camelhair jacket, Levis and Cole Hans). If you come dressed too formally (yes you will appear as a man of substance), however appear like every other Mongolian putting on airs. The “haves” in the international community of Mongolia dress casual, but well (no need to show they have it). It sets them apart from the local men who dress too far up.

Not to get off topic, however, we tend to avoid expats who have taken up permanent residence in UB, as for the most part, they all seem to be slightly off, and give off somewhat of a creepy vibe. This is not missed by the Mongolian community either who show them all the affection and inclusiveness you would that stray racoon who continually knocks over your garbage can at night. I am not a pub crawler, however there are a few more upscale clubs in UB frequented by the international community where many white-collar professionals share a few libations. Of course, the nicer looking Mongolian ladies are well aware of this, and will pop in and out making appearances as well. Upon your immediate arrival, these “meat markets” are always a good place to scope out possy’s of tall, leggy, Mongol babes. Eat your lunches at Café Amsterdam, or TurningPoint Café (if you can catch it open) same theme and will see many higher quality Mongol ladies lounging and hoovering about. Also, sign up for a 30-day membership at “Flex Gym” when you arrive (yes a gym) – it is a smorgasbord of very, very “hot” Mongol women who work out there. This place is as much a pick-up place as anywhere, and it is designed to be just that. By UB standards, “Flex Gym” is very expensive to belong, and you will only see the international community and more well-heeled Mongolians (generally connected to a management position in mining) working out here. Now for the good part, as part of a community outreach effort, Flex Gym staff hits the streets and “selectively” hands out coupons within the Mongolian community, which offer a FREE three-month membership; and if they wish to continue, may do so at a huge discounted rate. The caveat, these FREE three-month memberships are ONLY given to very, very “hot” Mongolian ladies (generally gym staff hang out at the universities to distribute). After the three months, most of the Mongolian ladies cannot (will not pay) continue, therefore there is constantly a new crop of Asian “hotties” circulating through (sometimes the same ones). This little gimmick is meant to attract eye-candy, and assures a steady and loyal membership from men, especially in the international community. Remember, this is not San Francisco, this is Mongolia.

In short Kartik13, I believe you will do well. It is important you do not view any Mongolian woman as unattainable. Unless the ones that have been spoken for, you should not have any problems attracting female companionship (you will be surprised how many young girls in the Ger district are spoken for). When you stroll through the Ger district, you will see many 17, 18-year-old girls pushing babies in a stroller – keep in mind the girl is not the child’s older sister or nanny, however the mother. A word of advice, if you find yourself enamored by a cute Mongol girl, who has been spoken for or has a ‘bo – forget her. There are too many fish in the sea in UB, and the last thing you need is a jealous Mongol on your butt. You will be viewed as what they call a “sex tourist” and will be open game in the event you offend someone. Also, come during the summer when all is in bloom and the land warms; it is during these times that raven-haired beauties are running all over the place. Most importantly, DO NOT marry a Mongolian woman. She will be amazing, even irresistible here; however, you will be pulling her away from the very land that binds her. Her culture is so foreign to anything that you can understand and will barely recognize her once abroad (I have heard this scenario too many times and always has the same ending). The result is inevitably a train wreck and results in a debacle for the man and her. In short, I say come to Mongolia and enjoy yourself!

@Robert High Hawk
I will miss your “spot-on” commentary. You seem to effortlessly find the words which I find myself groping for (what can I say, I am a “left-side brain thinking” engineer). You are so right about the cold in Mongolia, it is a dry cold. I would love to post photos from the Gobi desert, however, no photos for pleasure allowed from the mining regions (tested this theory once). I believe the issue is that they want no unwarranted oversight over work conditions. I will say that the working conditions are some of the best I have seen in my professional travels – Rio Tinton really does it right.

[Heart Break Kid]

Anyone know of any cheap ways to fly to Mongolia? Are there any major cities that have really cheap flights to Ulaanbaatar in Asia/Russia?

[Phoenix]

(02-18-2017 10:25 AM)SHAWNFLYNN Wrote:  

Good day everyone. Firstly, received a three-day suspension for posting a couple of photos of Mongolian ladies I know.

That's a very strict and surprising reading of Rule 7, which as I recall was introduced to stop men posting pictures of their conquests (due to some fallout), not to stop them posting pictures of women they know generally. Indeed if you read the rule as written it says "Do not share images or screenshots that identify your dates or girlfriends", which these women were not. You'd think a simple PM of "don't do this" would suffice for the first occasion for such a strict reading.

But unfortunately I think the mods here are quite busy men, and have to sporadically swing around moderation like a hammer to keep things under control. Almost weekly we have people asking "why was ---- banned?". Sad to say I think you'll be next. You'll probably have a line through your name within a few weeks, and that will be the end of you posting your interesting content here, joining a long list of equally interesting men.

If you have an account at another forum, please PM it to me so you and access to your content doesn't disappear forever.

[Robert High Hawk]

@SF

Let's not talk so cryptically! You hopefully still have some good insight to add not just here in this travel section but elsewhere too. I bet everyone gets a temp ban at some point. Means you care!

*cue nostalgic song by Chicago* (no homo)

Getting back on topic, you said something that really resonated with me in your last post about the expats that have taken up full time residence in UB/Mongolia. When I was there I spent way too much time in bars and pubs and the long term expat community was a very interesting group. At the time being more naive it took me a while to realize that there was indeed something off with these guys. Very few people just up and move to Mongolia. Some had histories and pasts they were leaving behind in thier old countries, and some were tied in too deeply with thier business that inevitably became part of the corruption culture. Many were also involved in truly God awful marriages maybe because they had no game. Either way thise folks seemed very vague about thier real pasts and where their income money came from. Not all of course, but quite a few. As I know all too well, as do you, thereis also a very dark and rough side to that country, it's what makes it so austere and appealing in some ways. I think if you choose to settle there it's hard not to get affected by the harsh life and amoral hustle that defines life for most Mongolians.

[Robert High Hawk]

(02-18-2017 12:12 PM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  

Anyone know of any cheap ways to fly to Mongolia? Are there any major cities that have really cheap flights to Ulaanbaatar in Asia/Russia?

They've opened up more routes to UB in the last few years, but for sure the cheapest way to get there is from Beijing, daily flights. Korean Air from soul as well, but those can get more pricey. The flights from beijing are a little bit more rough, since it's mostly chinese on chinese airlines. I think they have flights from HongKong too, but they are seasonal I think. They also just opened up direct flights from Istanbul a couple years back. And Japan I think has seasonal fights too.

Anyway, Beijing will be cheapest and easiest. YOu can also take the train up there too, it connects with the transsiberian railroad, and from what I heard is a fun experience. I used to take that same train line between UB and another nothern Mongolian city called Darkhan. It was sloooooooww but very scenic. Old Russian coal heated rail cars from the 1960s and extremely cheap.

I feel in the absense of Shawn Flynn's commentary I'm not doing this thread much justice trying to pick up his slack.

[b0ss]

Let’s revive this thread boys.