[Fortis]

Great guide, Eddie. I have met you and I didn't know you were a chocolate lover. No wonder you and I got on so well when we were trolling chicks. Haha. I can see why you do well with them. Black girls like a bit of a "tough" look to men. Like shaven heads, muscles and other things. I almost think black girls prefer a bald guy to a guy with hair.

One other thing I would add for white bros trying to game black chicks: Be as fit as possible. Black women are pretty cool about interracial dating/fucking, but they really have a thing against fucking slovenly dudes of another race. Not sure what it is, but black chicks won't usually be caught dead with a sloppy, fat white dude, unlike what you might see an asian chick with. When I see a black chick rolling with a white dude he usually has a decent to great physique and has a bit of swagger to him.

The other side of this is that sometimes you will see a hot black girl with a busted black dude, but never with a busted dude of another race.

[The_Wonder]

One observation I have made (correct me if I'm wrong) is that black women love white guys that have the body of a black guy. In exactly the same way black dudes love white girls with the body of a black girl.

[Fortis]

Well said: yes black girls like muscular white dudes. You'll rarely see a bad black chick with a white hipster boyfriend.

[Eddie Winslow]

I'd like to share another recent experience that highlights the importance of choosing the right type of girl.

Right before Valentine's Day this year, I met a beautiful black girl in an NYC supermarket (my line of work forces me to indirectly open dozens of girls every day). The interaction was like the previous 30 I'd had that day, but for some reason I felt that she was into me while we were speaking. I made a few light jokes, lightly teased her, and I could tell she was really enjoying it. She walked away and came back 10 minutes later when she definitely did not need to. This was the ultimate green light.

I reapproached her, we exchanged a few sentences, and then I said something along the lines of "So do you want to be my Valentine or what?" I said it in the same half cocky, half-goofy tone that she was responding very positively to. However, I think my directness took her off guard; she looked shocked and maybe even creeped out. I thought I blew it. However, she gave me her number, we set up a date, and she enthusiastically texted me first about an hour later. Phew.

She asked me for my Instagram, which I didn't use at the time. She told me what hers was, so I did some internet stalking. I quickly discovered she was a video chick.

Her ass makes a couple VERY up-close appearances here (PM if you want to know which one):

Quick unrelated note: How is this not banned on Youtube?

I was shitting my pants with excitement. This girl was super hot, internet famous, was pursued by some of my favorite NYC rappers, and SHE was texting MY broke ass! I think my ego tripled in size in 3 seconds. Bagging a video chick was my ultimately fantasy since middle school, when I spent my Saturday nights jerking off to MTVJams.

The night of our date, I met her outside of her workplace, and then we grabbed a coffee at Starbucks. We chatted a little bit and walked to a quiet, nearby bar so I could escalate.

It ended up being a truly painful date. I bought her 4 or 5 Patron shots while she spent the entire time on her phone. She showed me every picture on her entire Instagram from start to finish, which highlighted every rapper, singer, and athlete she had ever "hung out" with. I'm feeling lamer by the second, but whatever. I touched her thighs and arms a few times but I didn't kiss her.

While walking her towards her train (logistics for banging were impossible, couldn't do anything about it), I put my arm around her. She responded very positively, hanging all over me and resting her head on my shoulder. It was reasonably late, probably after midnight. We got to the train and when I went in for the kiss, and she turned her head away!


In retrospect, that mouth had certainly been wrapped around the dicks of many, many rappers. I convinced myself afterwards it was probably for the better that I got shut down.

I got played for a few Patron shots before she went to whatever party or dude's house she was going to, no doubt in my mind. I envisioned her going straight to Jadakiss' VIP section, telling him all about our date, having a good laugh, and then enthusiastically blowing him. I was pissed.

A few days later I sent a hailmary text telling her to come straight to my house, late night, to try and re-establish myself as alpha. Not surprsingly, no response.

Some red flags:

-Uneducated
-Absolutely insane addiction to status whoring/social media
-Only white 'friend' was a rich video producer who threw pool parties all the time.
-Fully Embraced hood culture and was covered in tattoos that can't possibly look attractive in <10 years

My Mistakes:

-Not being rich or famous
-Ego got the best of me and I put her on the pedestal
-Terrible logisitcs
-'Comically white' only gets you so far with the wrong type of chick

[WestIndianArchie]

@Fortis, it depends on where you live.

Hipster with hot white chick was the norm in nyc.

Muscle bound jock with a fat white chick was surprisingly common in the South.

WIA

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(07-02-2015 06:50 AM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

One observation I have made (correct me if I'm wrong) is that black women love white guys that have the body of a black guy. In exactly the same way black dudes love white girls with the body of a black girl.

Never thought about it, but I have the muscular ass of a black sprinter - heh - all of it in white cover.

I like to taste some brown sugar from time to time. It's just quite rare where I live now. Most of the girls I meet are well-educated Christian African girls, which are feminine, kind and quite down-to-earth. It's like dating European girls - just with lower expectations.

The Game examples by OP seem to apply only for young guys in their 20s at the most. If you try to bust a dance move on the street while being 35, it won't go over well.



I have only gamed very few black girls in the US and they reacted to normal Game. Escalation speed is dependent on the girl - anyone knows that you have to calculate this from case to case. I have met Ukrainian girls where you could go to kissing within 90 seconds and I met black girls, who only loosened up after an hour and some drinks.

[The_Wonder]

(07-02-2015 10:04 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 06:50 AM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

One observation I have made (correct me if I'm wrong) is that black women love white guys that have the body of a black guy. In exactly the same way black dudes love white girls with the body of a black girl.

Never thought about it, but I have the muscular ass of a black sprinter - heh - all of it in white cover.

Same here. I have the snow-covered arse of a Ghanaian Footballer and as mentioned previously, and a couple of times since then, black girls just seem to be drawn to me. It's all good though.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Also I might add that statistically speaking White Man / Black Woman has incredibly low divorce rate.

Quote:

White wife/Black husband marriages show twice the divorce rate of White wife/White husband couples by the 10th year of marriage,[9] whereas Black wife/White husband marriages are 44% less likely to end in divorce than White wife/White husband couples over the same period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracia...ted_States

White F/Black M - bonds have a whopping 80-90% divorce rate, while for WM/BW - it's the opposite.

Also I read a report on divorce rates of Asian mail order brides and they were incredibly low - something like 20%. The reverse for women who shacked up with 3rd world country men - those divorce rates were something in the vicinity of 80-90%.

Probably if you add a good African girl from the continent, then your odds are even higher.

[realologist]

This combination is becoming more and more common than it was in the past.

I remember 5 years ago it was rare to see a white man and black girl together. I've noticed slowly it has become more and more common. They even show white men and black women together on TV and in commercials.

I wonder if the TV is a reflection in the changes of society or the portrayal in TV helped change the attitude of black women and white men being together.

[Natural Born Gyalist]

I prefer Sisters from the Caribbean (Jamaica, VI, Cuba, Puerto Rico, DR-Island raised like me) or from East Africa ( specifically: Ethiopian, Eritrean, Somali, etc.) Thin genes and naturally "good hair". American Black Women have their own particular set of "problems". I.E.-men aint shit, ninjas aint loyal, etc.

Buju Banton
"Til I'm Laid To Rest"

[Chorus]
'Til I'm laid to rest
Always be depressed
There's no life in the West
i know the East is the best
All the propaganda they spread
Tongues will have to confess

I'm in bondage living is a mess
I've got to rise up alleviate the stress
No longer will I expose my weakness
He who seeks knowledge begins with humbleness
Work 7 to 7 but I'm still penniless
All the food upon my table Massa God bless
Holler for the needy and shelterless
Ethiopia awaits all prince and princess

Free Buju
Free Vybz Kartel
Big up all international yard man.

[General Stalin]

(07-02-2015 12:45 PM)Natural Born Gyalist Wrote:  

I prefer Sisters from the Caribbean (Jamaica, VI, Cuba, Puerto Rico, DR-Island raised like me) or from East Africa ( specifically: Ethiopian, Eritrean, Somali, etc.) Thin genes and naturally "good hair". American Black Women have their own particular set of "problems". I.E.-men aint shit, ninjas aint loyal, etc.

I'll certainly cosign on islanders and East/Southern African nationals. Dated a girl from Jamaica and Zimbabwe recently. Both very sweet and feminine and eager to please. The Zimbabwean girl was a solid fuck buddy for 5 straight months - that's the best shelf life I've ever had for a casual hookup. The Jamaican girl (who was a soft 8/10) was really into me and wanted to be exclusive but I ended up breaking things off partially because we just didn't click and partially because... I just could not see myself being with a girl long term who's hair I can't play with. Looking back it seems petty but I go by the philosophy if it bothers me now it's only going to get worse.

[MidWest]

(07-01-2015 10:58 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Black girls like a bit of a "tough" look to men. Like shaven heads, muscles and other things. I almost think black girls prefer a bald guy to a guy with hair.

One other thing I would add for white bros trying to game black chicks: Be as fit as possible. Black women are pretty cool about interracial dating/fucking, but they really have a thing against fucking slovenly dudes of another race. Not sure what it is, but black chicks won't usually be caught dead with a sloppy, fat white dude, unlike what you might see an asian chick with. When I see a black chick rolling with a white dude he usually has a decent to great physique and has a bit of swagger to him.

The other side of this is that sometimes you will see a hot black girl with a busted black dude, but never with a busted dude of another race.

I suspect that these are the kind of white guys that Black girls like. Every time I see these guys videos (the white guy and Mexican guy) they always have the Black girls wetting their panties for them with their approaches.

These guys bring a hip-type dimension to the game. They aren't overly flashy or anything which is different than the more traditional PUA's like Neil Strauss and others. And these guys are funny as hell.

[Repo]

I've found that black women with good natural hair actually don't mind it when you play with it, provided you are not outside the house (since it gets messed up easily). The ones who don't want you to touch the most are the ones with weave, extensions, or weak natural hair from being overprocessed. This can be used as a neg. If she brings up the "don't touch black girls hair" thing, you can tell her that your ex didn't mind, she had good natural hair. Deep down I think alot of black women are very insecure about their hair if they rely on overprocessing or weave to make it look good. Maybe a black forum member can explain this better, but this has been my experience.

[WanderingSoul]

(07-01-2015 10:58 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Great guide, Eddie. I have met you and I didn't know you were a chocolate lover. No wonder you and I got on so well when we were trolling chicks. Haha. I can see why you do well with them. Black girls like a bit of a "tough" look to men. Like shaven heads, muscles and other things. I almost think black girls prefer a bald guy to a guy with hair.

One other thing I would add for white bros trying to game black chicks: Be as fit as possible. Black women are pretty cool about interracial dating/fucking, but they really have a thing against fucking slovenly dudes of another race. Not sure what it is, but black chicks won't usually be caught dead with a sloppy, fat white dude, unlike what you might see an asian chick with. When I see a black chick rolling with a white dude he usually has a decent to great physique and has a bit of swagger to him.

The other side of this is that sometimes you will see a hot black girl with a busted black dude, but never with a busted dude of another race.

I don't have much experience gaming black girls in person, but I was just in SF and Sacramento for a week and fucking off on Tinder I got a lot of matches with black girls. I fit the description you posted well. In SEA I always get compared to Vin Diesel, they don't know he's black lol.

I like fit black girls, and the rare occasions I come across them they seem to like me also. Someday I hope to live somewhere with some more of them. I did have a chunky black girl hold the door open for me at Starbucks and say "I'll hold it open for you because you look damnnnn good!", which was kind of flattering lol.

I tell black chicks with afros "I think you and I have the prettiest hair here." which has been well received on 2/2 attempts. Love black chicks with afros. Probably because I grew up in a town that's damn near 90% white.

[Travesty]

No shit - have Beyonce cued up on Spotify.

Had a black girl on my couch last night she liked weed and Beyonce. That's all they need.

Also I think as a white guy you just gotta slow it down a bit (I naturally am). I get the feeling black chicks more often than not want a very chilled out white guy. White guys compared to black dudes tend to have the tendency to be way more tightly wound.

[RickyWax]

Black girls are easy but then again I'm black. I would say just game them like you would with a white girl. It's all a numbers game.

[DonnyGately]

Black girls have some amazing bodies and flawless skin on them. I'm always dressed on point and on a few nights in the city they are just throwing it at me all nite in a club/lounge. If she's a legit 9+ I'll swoop in and kino, see if she's DTF, but otherwise I pass them by not interested in black 7-8s. First girl I dated in NYC was a smokin' hot black girl I met in the Village, what a set of legs and ass on her. Brings a tear to my eyes...

[rudebwoy]

(07-02-2015 11:36 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Also I might add that statistically speaking White Man / Black Woman has incredibly low divorce rate.

Quote:

White wife/Black husband marriages show twice the divorce rate of White wife/White husband couples by the 10th year of marriage,[9] whereas Black wife/White husband marriages are 44% less likely to end in divorce than White wife/White husband couples over the same period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracia...ted_States

White F/Black M - bonds have a whopping 80-90% divorce rate, while for WM/BW - it's the opposite.

Also I read a report on divorce rates of Asian mail order brides and they were incredibly low - something like 20%. The reverse for women who shacked up with 3rd world country men - those divorce rates were something in the vicinity of 80-90%.

Probably if you add a good African girl from the continent, then your odds are even higher.

Not everything Wikipedia states is true. Inter-racial relationships have a higher divorce rate, I know many white male/black female marriage relationship that didn't go the distance.
I myself as a black man was at one time 100% into white girls, as I grow older I simply cannot see myself with a white girl for any length of time. Call me vain, but they simply don't age well.

Black girls more than ever are receptive to white males, the constant negative stereotyping of black males has turned many of them.

[rudebwoy]

(07-02-2015 11:36 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Also I might add that statistically speaking White Man / Black Woman has incredibly low divorce rate.

Quote:

White wife/Black husband marriages show twice the divorce rate of White wife/White husband couples by the 10th year of marriage,[9] whereas Black wife/White husband marriages are 44% less likely to end in divorce than White wife/White husband couples over the same period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracia...ted_States

White F/Black M - bonds have a whopping 80-90% divorce rate, while for WM/BW - it's the opposite.

Also I read a report on divorce rates of Asian mail order brides and they were incredibly low - something like 20%. The reverse for women who shacked up with 3rd world country men - those divorce rates were something in the vicinity of 80-90%.

Probably if you add a good African girl from the continent, then your odds are even higher.

Not everything Wilkipedia states is true. Inter-racial relationships have a higher divorce rate, I know many white male/black female marriage relationship that didn't go the distance.
I myself as a black man was at one time 100% into white girls, as I grow older I simply cannot see myself with a white girl for any length of time. Call me vain, but they simply don't age well.

Black girls more than ever are receptive to white males, the constant negative stereotyping of black males has turned many of them.

[Sonsowey]

For what it's worth, as a white guy raised in a white area, I've been with a good number of black girls in NYC, some African American, Caribbean, African, English... I never had to try to act black or pretend I was more into black culture than I am or anything like that. If this works for you, or the OP, great, do what works.

I don't think there's really any magic to gaming black girls, I used basically the same game I would on any other type of girl, you calibrate to every individual, but I definitely just was pretty much the same as I would be with anyone else.

Some white guys think that it's going to be very difficult to get black girls, or are intimidated, just don't be. They're fine and probably will like you just as much as other girls do without you having to open with references to Chris Brown or Lebron.

No hate at all for the OP obviously his method is working for him, and keep doing whatever works for you.

[alpha_i]

We have a high black population in my area of the US, but I rarely find myself attracted to black girls. Even the ones with hot bodies typically act "ratchet" which is a big turnoff for me. It's even more rare to find a submissive, feminine black American woman than a submissive, feminine white American woman in my experience.

[Sonsowey]

(07-06-2015 09:29 PM)alpha_i Wrote:  

We have a high black population in my area of the US, but I rarely find myself attracted to black girls. Even the ones with hot bodies typically act "ratchet" which is a big turnoff for me. It's even more rare to find a submissive, feminine black American woman than a submissive, feminine white American woman in my experience.

Well first, you obviously can't be dealing with these "ratchet" types of girls, that's obvious.

I have often found girls on dating sites and just by "natural selection" (heh) it turned out they weren't ratchet. Like there is no way a ratchet girl and I could talk on okc and it turn out well, so that just filtered them out naturally.

Many turned out to be foreign, it just turned out that when I saw a girl i was interested in and we vibed she was often from abroad. Try getting on a dating site and hitting up only the most attractive ones who aren't ratchet.

Of course my experience is in NYC maybe in your area you don't have this kind of a situation.

[tarquin]

(07-01-2015 02:05 AM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 03:18 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

How do I post this awesome gif here?

I prefer this one, but only barely:

[Brian Shima]

(07-06-2015 08:33 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Black girls have some amazing bodies and flawless skin on them. I'm always dressed on point and on a few nights in the city they are just throwing it at me all nite in a club/lounge. If she's a legit 9+ I'll swoop in and kino, see if she's DTF, but otherwise I pass them by not interested in black 7-8s. First girl I dated in NYC was a smokin' hot black girl I met in the Village, what a set of legs and ass on her. Brings a tear to my eyes...

Was that a type-o or are you swooping 9+ black women? Please explain how you're getting the best of the best!!

[Eddie Winslow]

(07-06-2015 09:10 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

For what it's worth, as a white guy raised in a white area, I've been with a good number of black girls in NYC, some African American, Caribbean, African, English... I never had to try to act black or pretend I was more into black culture than I am or anything like that. If this works for you, or the OP, great, do what works.

I don't think there's really any magic to gaming black girls, I used basically the same game I would on any other type of girl, you calibrate to every individual, but I definitely just was pretty much the same as I would be with anyone else.

Some white guys think that it's going to be very difficult to get black girls, or are intimidated, just don't be. They're fine and probably will like you just as much as other girls do without you having to open with references to Chris Brown or Lebron.

No hate at all for the OP obviously his method is working for him, and keep doing whatever works for you.

I understand what you are saying, but just to clarify, I don't act black. I've always loved hip-hop, R&B, and basketball - they just happen to be ultra-stereotypical black interests. My higher than normal knowledge about these things (for a white person) is often seen as an interesting contrast. My jokes and comments that you mentioned are not as much for self-depreciating humor as they are to indirectly display value.