[Parlay44]

Jihad is like roid rage. Imagine going 25 years without sex or at least jerking off. You'd be pretty angry and want to kill shit too.

[vinman]

(06-16-2015 07:59 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Ultimately you can say that everything men do is motivated by sex, so it's ridiculous to pass that off as some profound insight to explain why young Western Muslims choose to become jihadis. Sex is also ultimately the major reason that young men choose to lift weights, buy expensive cars, go to college, take showers, and do pretty much anything else besides lay around and jerk off. So what? Is that supposed to be enlightening? Also, since when do children rebel against ultra-strict parents by becoming even more strict themselves? That's like a preacher's kid rebelling not by smoking, drinking and fucking, but by becoming a monk. If Islamic young men in the West wanted to rebel against their strict parents ("Fuck you, Dad!") they wouldn't be joining ISIS, they'd be joining their local LGBT club.

A more incisive explanation as to why these young men are joining ISIS is simply that ISIS is masculine, violent and fills the spiritual void that is ever-present in the modern West. Young men like to express their masculinity in extreme ways, they are drawn toward violence, and the shallow consumer culture of the West offers nothing beyond pointless hedonism. So it's no surprise that so many young men are drawn to the ISIS banner: it's offering something them something they cannot get anywhere else.

[Lucky]

Link to the video on YouTube is dead. Anyone have another source?

Sounds like an interesting documentary. I expect some sort of backlash against Deeyah Khan for creating it. No one is safe from leftist lunatics anymore-- just ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

[WalterBlack]

(06-16-2015 08:52 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

Another aspect, ex-muslims often dislike British Muslims more than most nationalities because they overcompensate how Muslim they are for some reason.
I am not sure if this is entirely accurate but it is consistent with these findings.

Most of these kids are of a Pakistani background, and that identity is predicated on an Islamic identity and denying their racial heritage. Pakistanis are ethnically Indian, but to make themselves more Muslim they try to become more Islamic and try to emulate Arabic traditions and denigrate their Indian roots. A lot of Pakistani Islamic extremists wear Arab clothes and headgear.

(06-16-2015 08:52 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

Eagerly awaiting the sociological explanations for grooming gangs too!

Young vulnerable girls are low hanging fruit for sleazy men who want pussy. The average guy wouldn't go for these girls because it's illegal, but the grooming gangs don't give a fuck. They know that if they bang female drug addicts the police won't belive the girls half the time. They also threaten to kill the girls' families if the girl doesn't comply.

(06-16-2015 08:55 PM)BlueOcean Wrote:  

I think Islam gives them a sense of unity. I remember seeing a documentary in which some Jamaican-British kids remark on how the South Asian migrants used to be so passive against violence from the National Front and white soccer clubs, but now they fight back and it's whites and blacks on the defensive. This increased willingness to fight was attributed to Islam.

It's not Islam per se, it's the fact that the younger generations of South Asian were born and raised in UK and refuse to take shit. People of my parents' generation got a lot of racist shit back in the day and they were scared to fight back because they didn't know English too well, and they only felt that they were guests in UK. The South Asian British born kids see UK as their home, and they're not willing to take any shit.

Most of of Muslim and Sikh kids don't take shit..around 80% of Hindus are Gujurati, and they tend to be more passive, so there's a stereotype that Hindus are pussies. Hindu Punjabi kick arse, but they're only a small percentage of the Hindu population.

(06-16-2015 08:55 PM)BlueOcean Wrote:  

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Mostly white girls, but sometimes Hindu or Sikh Indian girls too.

Do they live with their GFs before marriage? I would think they'd need to carry on the relationships in private, but I guess they could always live off and on at the girl's place too.

If they're still living with their parents, they'll bang them on the side. If they have their own place, well that depends on the individual.

(06-17-2015 05:29 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  

I don't believe for one second that parental abuse or sexual frustration or feelings of cultural marginalisation is behind the flood of western Muslims fighting for ISIS, committing acts of terror or being " radicalised".

If so, those three factors would also apply to frustrated young Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, Bhuddist or even Christian males. Where are the Hindu terrorists??? Is there a Sikh ISIS?? Of course not.

There are extremist religious groups of Hindus, Sikhs, Jewish Buddhists, and Christians.

Those organisations have issues that are very localized and they are not involved in attacks on the West.

[Eskhander]

(06-17-2015 12:50 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:52 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

Another aspect, ex-muslims often dislike British Muslims more than most nationalities because they overcompensate how Muslim they are for some reason.
I am not sure if this is entirely accurate but it is consistent with these findings.

Eagerly awaiting the sociological explanations for grooming gangs too!

(06-16-2015 08:38 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

But all that has changed now. Even in my lifetime, the military has become little more than just another social welfare organization, shaped and molded to fit the needs of the precious and pampered Western woman.

It won't be long before other alternatives fill the gap that is being left.

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I have to disagree slightly. Because we are seeing members of a religion joining their coreligionists in a holy war.
It can't be purely attributed to the malaise of Western Societies.

It sure can. My compatriots view the world as the fault of the power elite and to satiate their hunger for morality they attempt to look for outlets to do so.

We're looking for an issue that fits our prejudices about the world.
Why is it one group of people more than any other going over, and what do they have in common with ISIS?
The malaise is partly responsible but this is another example of why Western Civilization is so screwed up: it no longer believes in itself because it is too busy blaming itself for every thing.

[Eskhander]

(06-17-2015 12:45 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-16-2015 08:52 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

Eagerly awaiting the sociological explanations for grooming gangs too!

Young vulnerable girls are low hanging fruit for sleazy men who want pussy. The average guy wouldn't go for these girls because it's illegal, but the grooming gangs don't give a fuck. They know that if they bang female drug addicts the police won't belive the girls half the time. They also threaten to kill the girls' families if the girl doesn't comply.

That was more of a joke. Some serious minded left leaning female of a Muslim background would never do a documentary on that.
My home town had a decent Muslim population and I'm familiar with women like her. Basically they use leftist talking points to defend their tribe and help it save face.
However the Muslim population of America is actually pretty moderate so it was never terribly absurd.

[BlueOcean]

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It's not Islam per se, it's the fact that the younger generations of South Asian were born and raised in UK and refuse to take shit. People of my parents' generation got a lot of racist shit back in the day and they were scared to fight back because they didn't know English too well, and they only felt that they were guests in UK. The South Asian British born kids see UK as their home, and they're not willing to take any shit.

Most of of Muslim and Sikh kids don't take shit..around 80% of Hindus are Gujurati, and they tend to be more passive, so there's a stereotype that Hindus are pussies. Hindu Punjabi kick arse, but they're only a small percentage of the Hindu population.

How common are clashes between chavs and South Asians these days? I always used to read about these type of incidents back in the mid 90s, but you don't hear much about it these days. It actually seems like there are large swathes of Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester, East London that are immigrant controlled. Whites seem to be out of the picture.

[WalterBlack]

(06-18-2015 06:02 PM)BlueOcean Wrote:  

How common are clashes between chavs and South Asians these days? I always used to read about these type of incidents back in the mid 90s, but you don't hear much about it these days. It actually seems like there are large swathes of Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester, East London that are immigrant controlled. Whites seem to be out of the picture.

There isn’t really issues between chavs and South Asians at all, at least in southern UK. The north may be different.

To be honest with you I think that white British people are some of the least racist in the world. I never had any issues when I was growing up in UK.

The South Asians have taken over parts of UK now and the whites have pulled out of some areas - look at the picture of Michelle Obama with schoolkids in East London:



The kids all nearly all Bangladeshi Muslims - that's not multicultural, that's monocultural.

Look at this article about Bradford:

One city, two cultures: Bradford's communities lead parallel lives

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It’s 3pm on Thursday at the Brown Cow Inn, the only pub left in Little Horton, two miles south-west of Bradford city centre. Inside, the all white group of afternoon drinkers watch children from a nearby school stream by and the racially charged contrast between the two communities could not be more stark.

“That was my school,” said one man, as the group of British Asian children in smart blue blazers filed happily down Little Horton Lane and home. “When I left in 1970, there were three Asian lads in the whole place. Now it’s a case of spot the white kid.” Another said: “If you stand up on the hill, you used to be able to see mill chimneys. Now it’s just bloody domes.”


Up the road in Little Horton, in what was once the Salvation Army centre, primary school children arrive for Qur’anic recitation classes. They had changed out of their uniforms and into shalwar kameez or kurta pijama, some of the boys keeping their school trousers on beneath their long tunics.

An hour later, the madrassa at Jamia Islamia Rizvia was open for Islamic study and prayers, the girls upstairs and the boys downstairs. There were no biscuits. Ramadan has begun and no food or water would touch the older children’s lips until sundown.

Meanwhile, at an end of terrace house just off Little Horton Lane, the Dawood family were barracked in their own home. Curtains closed and blinds down, the parents of the missing sisters and other members of their family were determined that the cameramen waiting in satellite trucks outside would not get the picture they had been waiting for all week.

That afternoon, they sent out an email to journalists who had put their business cards through the front door. Asking the media to leave them in peace, the family said they were devastated by the sudden disappearance of three of their number – sisters Sugra, 34, Zohra, 33, and Khadija, 30 – who appeared to have gone to visit their younger brother, Ahmed, 21, in Syria, with their nine children in tow. No one else should follow their lead, the family said.

At 5pm, inside his high ceilinged office in Bradford’s Venetian Gothic town hall, the council leader, Dave Green, reflected on what he described as a terrible seven days for his city. Last Thursday, a teacher was stabbed in the classroom at a school in Lidget Green, leading to the arrest of a 14-year-old pupil. On Saturday, a pregnant woman and her unborn baby were stabbed to death in front of her children in Manningham.

On Monday morning, police found the bodies of a 40-year-old man and a 35-year-old woman in Bowling Park, following a suspected suicide pact. Then on Monday afternoon came the the story that would dominate the news for days.

A lawyer in the city contacted the media to report that three sisters and their nine children had not returned from a pilgrimage to Mecca and were feared to have crossed into Syria rather than return to their homes in Little Horton. By the time the television trucks had settled in, another unwanted headline emerged. A Bradford-born teenager admitted plotting to travel to Syria to join Islamic State.

“I think it’s safe to say that it’s not the sort of week that any town or city would want. It’s been dramatic and emotional at all sorts of levels, with a series of unconnected events that have just all come at once,” said Green, a southerner who has been the council’s Labour leader for three years.

We do not yet know what led the Dawood sisters to apparently take their children into a warzone, but speculation has naturally begun as to why they appear to have turned their backs on Britain and inner city Bradford, where they were born and brought up. Some wonder if increasing segregation in the central districts of the city was encouraging some Muslims to lead parallel lives. They have little to no interaction with mainstream British life, perhaps leading to a disconnect between what might loosely be termed “British values” and a different, Islamist perspective.

It is not a new thesis. Back in 2001, in the aftermath of violent race riots triggered by the National Front threatening to march in the city, academics looked for explanations as to how the violence erupted, leading to the criminalisation of dozens of disaffected, mainly British-Pakistani men.

In a Home Office report written soon after the riots, Ted Cantle said: “Separate educational arrangements, community and voluntary bodies, employment, places of worship, language, social and cultural networks, means that many communities operate on the basis of a series of parallel lives. They do not touch at any point, let alone overlap and promote any meaningful interchange.”

In the decade or so following Cantle’s report, pockets of Bradford have become ever more monoethnic. Little Horton, the area of south-west Bradford where the Dawood family lived, is 57% British Asian, overwhelmingly of Pakistani origin, compared with just under 20% in Bradford as a whole, according to the 2011 census. In Little Horton’s 19,996-strong local population, 35% do not have English as their main language and 12% of those are unable to speak English well or at all.

Adding to the insular nature of some of the British Pakistani-majority districts is the widespread practice of importing spouses, usually cousins, from ancestral villages. The three runaway sisters had all been married off to men from Pakistan with varying degrees of success. The husband of Zohra Dawood is back in Pakistan, according to the family’s lawyer. The husbands of the other two appeared at an emotional press conference in Bradford on Tuesday to insist they were happily married and had no idea why their wives had fled.

Two of the missing Dawood sisters also spent time living in Bradford Moor, over to the east of the city, where 80% of the 10,000-strong population living in the postcode sector is British Asian, according to the 2011 census. By comparison, just a mile or so away on the Holme Wood estate, 86% of the population is white. An industrial estate acts as a buffer between the districts, with a pub run by a Sikh family signalling that you are crossing from one world into another.

Vix Chumber’s family have run the Bradford Arms in East Bowling for 16 years. Chumber, 18, talks fondly of how the pub used to get so busy when he was a lad that it would take 10 minutes to get to the bar. Not any more. “The Muslims don’t drink, do they? And it’s cheaper now to go and buy alcohol from the supermarket and drink at home anyway.”

Behind the counter, the family keeps a framed document, the glass now smashed, listing every pub which existed in the neighbouring area since 1912. There were 54. These days, there are just three ; some turned into flats, others shops and others mosques. “We’re holding out until we are the only one left. Some people will always want to come to the pub, won’t they?” Chumber said.

Apart from the loss in takings, Chumber did not seem concerned about pockets of Bradford becoming ever more monocultural. “I have white friends, Asian friends,” he said. But Parveen Akhtar, a sociology lecturer at Bradford university, said segregation was “an issue” in Bradford, along ethnic lines but also and importantly along class lines. “Where is the middle class?” she asked.

“Certainly not in or around the centre of the city. Bradford is multicultural only insofar as there are pockets of different cultures living side by side. Segregation both ethnic and class-based is problematic because it limits contact with those who are different and this, in turn, can lead to insularity.”

Green does not like the term segregation. The council leader thinks it is pejorative and imbued with a sense of enforcement. “I think that districts in Bradford are certainly monocultural … I think it’s an issue that starts in schools, because children tend to go to their nearest school and you can’t change where people live. But to change the system of school placement is incredibly difficult.”

He said the council had yet to find a satisfactory way of changing catchment areas, but had begun to experiment by twinning predominantly white schools with overwhelmingly British Asian ones.

Irna Qureshi, a local writer and co-founder of the city’s lively new literature festival – which makes a point of creating events for all the local communities by bringing together writers from around the world – said it was wrong to blame Asians for wanting to live together.

“We need to be clear about the reasons that these places have become monocultural. It’s white flight, it’s old people dying, young people moving away and the fact that the Asian community still have strong family links which means they want to live close to each other. So what people tend to overlook when they talk about segregation are the positive sides, the strong bonds and family ties which exist.”

Back at the madrassa in Little Horton, the cheery imam, Muhammad Aslam Siddiquie Bindiyalvi, struggled to explain why a local family of 12 might want to swap this West Yorkshire city for a warzone. He insisted there were no deeper cultural tensions that might make a Muslim family want to flee. “Culturally, there’s no problem here. There’s respect,” he said, offering visitors cups of cardamom-heavy tea and dates despite of his own Ramadan fast.

Others seem keen to take a firmer view. On Friday, David Cameron gave a speech telling Muslim families and leaders to do more to combat the lure of Islamic State.

The prime minister’s warning was greeted with dismay by the Bradford Council for Mosques. Ishtiaq Ahmed, the council’s president, said: “I think the prime minister and his team need to change the script on this and stop pushing the blame back on the community. We have been extremely alert and vigilant to the threat of radicalisation and are working very hard to make sure our members are made aware of the threat.”

As worshippers filed into jummah prayers at lunchtime on Friday, the thoughts of many turned back to the family whose nine Bradford-born children are now feared to have crossed into Syria. They fear too for themselves, as they are forced once again to apologise for the actions of others whose views they do not share.

“I pray that the Muslim community will not be blamed for this,” said Ahmed, before the service. “The community is united in condemning what has happened but feel very saddened for the children.”

The Sikh family seems to have fitted in fine, they run the local pub!

[Samseau]

^ So Britain's welfare dollars are being used to breed Jihadi warriors for ISIS. Nice!

[WalterBlack]

(06-19-2015 07:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

^ So Britain's welfare dollars are being used to breed Jihadi warriors for ISIS. Nice!

Anjem Choudary is a nut and has very little support, but look who pays for him to maintain his lifestyle. He gets around $40,000 from the UK govt - this story is from 2013, so he probably gets more now:

'Claim jobseeker's allowance and plan holy war': Hate preacher pocketing £25,000 a year in benefits calls on fanatics to live off the state

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A controversial Muslim cleric who lives off benefits is urging his followers to also sponge off UK taxpayers by claiming their 'Jihadseeker's allowance'.

Anjem Choudary, who in the past has planned to disrupt the minute's silence on Remembrance Sunday, also openly mocked hard-working Britons, calling them 'slaves'.

The Sun newspaper secretly filmed him saying Islam will overrun Europe, David Cameron and Barack Obama should be killed and calling the Queen 'ugly'.

But today he said he had been 'joking' and his words had been misconstrued.

He also maintained that Osama Bin Laden was his 'hero'.

The father-of-four takes home more than £25,000 a year in benefits and lives in a £320,000 house in Leytonstone, East London.

He told a crowd of around 30 fanatics: 'People will say, 'Ah, but you are not working'. But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar (non-Muslim).

'So we take Jihadseeker's Allowance. You need to get support.'

In another video a grinning Choudary is recorded telling his disciples that it is justifiable to take money from non-believers.

He said: 'The normal situation is to take money from the kuffar. You work, give us the money, Allahu Akhbar (God is great).

'Hopefully there's no one from the DSS [Department of Social Security]listening to this.'

He also called Mr Cameron, Mr Obama and the leaders of Pakistan and Egypt the 'shaitan', or devil, and said he wanted them to be killed.

Choudary spoke glowingly of the 9/11 attacks and urged his followers to have 'hate' in their hearts for core British concepts like democracy, freedom and freedom of religion.

The 45-year-old former lawyer added: 'We are going to take England — the Muslims are coming. Brussels is 30 per cent, 40 per cent Muslim and Amsterdam. Bradford is 17 per cent Muslim.

'These people are like a tsunami going across Europe. And over here we're just relaxing, taking over Bradford brother. The reality is changing.'

At another meeting he displayed a £10 note of the Queen and described the portrait as 'ugly'.

Choudary, 45, ran a group called al-Muhajiroun which held anti-Western demonstrations and is the former leader of Islam4UK. Both were outlawed in 2010 under the Terrorism Act.

He told the Sun that his reference to 'Jihadseeker's allowance' was a joke and claims he has never urged his followers to kill anyone.

He said: 'Cameron is doing satanic actions but I am not asking for anyone to be killed. We want everyone to worship Islam. I invite Cameron and the Queen to worship Islam.That would be an ideal situation.'

His teachings were met with ridicule by some Muslims. Twitter user Razwan Faraz said: 'Islam teaches us to be independent and self sufficient. You clearly are a living dichotomy of ideas and actions!'

Choudary later said that his rant had been 'misconstrued' and said his Jihad seeker's Allowance' comment had been a mere joke.

Today he maintained that he had been comparing economic and welfare systems between Islam and Britain in a talk, and discussing how Islam would provide 'basic needs' for its citizens, The Sun reported.

He said: 'As a joke in this talk to lighten the atmosphere I said "Jihad Seeker's Allowance".'

He then said he believed terrorist and 9/11 mastermind Osama Bin Laden was a 'hero' to him and some of the Muslim world.

Choudary said: 'He sacrificed his life and wealth for what he believes.

'He stood up against the super powers of his time.'

[Eskhander]

Speaking of Bradford.
So much enrichment.
A small British boy was attacked by 3 'asians'.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bradford-3-boys...ld-1507090

Video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f26_1434716152

A vibrant name is shouted at the end.

[LeeEnfield303]

(06-16-2015 08:19 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

Or in a sentence, "And therefore since I cannot prove a lover... I am determined to prove a villain."

"You either die a hero...or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[BlueOcean]

I think what's interesting is that back in the 90s, white British intimidated the immigrants. Today, the immigrants culturally and physically intimidate white British.

Walter, here's what I was referring to:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/fea...83793.html

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The Bengali boys hanging around the Surma Community Centre down the road do not need to see the quartet's 'tools' - a hammer and a baseball bat - to know they mean business.

Sunday, the day after Richard Everitt, 15, was stabbed to death after being attacked by 11 Asian youths, was a beautiful day but there was hardly an Asian boy to be seen. Most stayed indoors or out of the neighbourhood.

'My mother rang me and told me not to come home because white men and boys were out on the street,' said Nasim Ali, a Surma youth worker.

'They passed right under our flat. Fortunately all the Bengali boys were home from work by the time. But it's really tense. Two guys passed the community centre today in baseball caps and sunglasses and whispered to two staff that there would be revenge for Richard Everitt's death.'


The school holidays have heralded the start of the annual violence between Asian and white youths from the mixed Regent's Park and predominantly white Somers Town estates. The only surprise this summer, said Paul, is that it has taken three weeks to get the aggro started.

As police strengthened street patrols yesterday in an effort to prevent revenge attacks, Richard Everitt's mother, Mandy, refused to appeal for calm. She claimed an Asian pupil had previously threatened her son with a knife at South Camden Community School which she insisted was rife with racial tension.

Paul and the boys, still fuming at the way police broke up their raiding party on Sunday night, are still bent on revenge. They blame the Asian boys for trouble. 'They 'firm up' during the holidays by getting their friends down from other estates,' said Mark , 14. 'We don't go looking for trouble but we can take them on.'

According to John , 15, there has been trouble with Asians in the area since his father was his age. 'They shouldn't be here. They take our jobs and our houses.'

The boys are astonished at the suggestion they might attend the Surma summer youth club. White boys attend the Samuel Lithgow Boys' Club round the corner.

They also say they would never attend the South Camden Community School - which was yesterday mourning Richard's death - because there are 'too many Pakis'. Couples who do not observe the racial divide are particularly hated. 'She's dirty,' says Mark pointing to a house near by. 'She's going out with a Paki.'

The British National Party recognises the area's potential. According to community leaders, the party tried hard to set up a local branch in the area before its attention was distracted by this year's local council elections. But the boys are not keen on the group. 'The BNP comes down here, gets everyone whipped up and then when the trouble starts we get it and they run away. We want nothing to do with them.'

The police say that there have been 117 racial attacks in the area in the past eight months and that only seven have been on white people. Paul insists the police usually ignore the racial element in attacks on whites.

Bengali schoolboys Miah and Ali, both 16, say they are shocked by Richard's death. Miah said: 'The boy seems to have had nothing to do with trouble. We are so shocked that Bengali boys could do this. It is the innocent increasingly who are suffering.'

But they are not surprised that gangs of youths - Bengali and white - are going round with weapons. 'Our parents say keep out of trouble,' said Ali. 'But they don't realise how bad it is because they are scared to go out. They have always been called Pakis and insulted.

'The tension isn't any better or worse just now. It's been as bad as this for years. What has changed is that Asian boys don't just take it any more. They are also prepared to fight.' The boys have white friends at school but say socialising with Bengalis is simply safer.

Yesterday the Bengali Workers Action Group, which runs the Surma centre, condemned the murder of Richard Everitt and said it was concerned at the high level of racial violence in the area.

Geoff Conway, deputy headteacher at South Camden Community School, said yesterday there was a danger that the tragedy of Richard's death would be swallowed by the race issue. He said racism was a not major problem at the school - where 50 per cent of the pupils are Bengali and 25 per cent Afro-Caribbean - and pupils generally got on well together.

This happened back in 1994. These days when you read about cases of ethnic intimidation (Bradford riots, grooming gangs, Islamicisation), the immigrants are typically the aggressors. Muslims have become far more bolder in recent years, while the British seem a lot more passive.

[MdWanderer]

When I read the headline "Domineering Dads" I knew this article wasn't about the U.S.

[Eskhander]

The National Review does not disagree with the prognosis of ISIS foreign fighters, but obviously is less sympathetic.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/38...h-goldberg

[infowarrior1]

(06-17-2015 06:39 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I don't see ISIS recruiting the masses, only the fringe losers who are fuck ups, loners, psycho's and those who are bored and like to be romanced by the movement of fighting a foe.

Pick any time in history and you will see the little guys fighting the big players.

You want to know the most hilarious part? These losers who go there are useful pawns to soak up incoming bullets or as bomb merchants in trucks and cars. Look up the recent trend of ISIS utilising foreigners as suicide bombers. Watch the videos and you will see the battle hardened ISIS fighters saying bye bye to the fat, limp wristed idiots who drive to their deaths.

They want them as an endless conveyor belt of slaughter upon their enemies. I'd say the game ISIS is playing is typical propaganda which feeds into the innate animal of man. Nothing new to discuss here.

Those who know how to fight, know the language and are physically able are used as the spear of propaganda. They know a white man from a Christian country who has converted, murders foreigners and locals alike on the whims of their religious creed will rub people up in a bigger way than some Allah Akbar screaming bearded tramp from some shithole village/town nobody ever heard of. These guys are killers first and foremost and are extremely dangerous when cornered.

If someone has to ask why men and women from safe countries go to join movements like this then they need to do a lot more research outside of the subject itself.

You may also be interested in this:
If you allow enough cannon fodder to get to the battlefield and enough variety of losers you get:

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An insurgency brings into play a “Darwinian ratchet,” in which the government in effect drives the insurgency. The security services cull the pack of insurgents. They eliminate the slow and stupid, clearing space for the “best” to rise in authority. That is, those most able to survive, recruit, and train new ranks of more effective insurgents. An insurgency with shallow roots can be destroyed. If not destroyed, then evolution takes place: the more severe the efforts at exterminating the insurrection, the more capable the survivors.

It works with bacteria. Administer antibiotics in non-lethal doses and soon you have a colony of drug-resistant bacteria. It works with people, too.

Hence the familiar activity pattern of a rising sine wave, seen in Palestine, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Iraq, and a dozen other places: successes by the security forces, a pause in activity, followed by another wave of activity – but bigger and more effective.

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2011/04/19/26797/

In 4th generation war what you will end up doing as you kill more and more losers and given enough numbers and variety all that will be left will be the best.