[mr_bond]

(06-16-2015 12:02 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  

Remember, if you dislike this then you're a homophobe.
Because while families and gender roles are unnatural social constructs, this is perfectly normal you bigot.

Not putting pictures or any excerpts up. Because it's too foul in my opinion.

This is one of those times where I waste 5 minutes of my life to read youtube comments. And after reading them I feel at least little bit better. Not all is lost.

[Samseau]

(06-16-2015 04:11 PM)Mr West Wrote:  

I understand the views in this forum about homosexuals/homosexuality but to anyone that has done the research and can provide some links; where exactly are the stats that homosexuals are pedophiles? Or that homosexuality is a result of child abuse? Or being raised by homosexuals is any worse than being raised by straight parents?

ROK and more over this forum has helped me see a lot of the tatics the gay lobby is using to promote homosexuality (like the fact that they only make up 1-3% of the population but have convinced the general public they represent 10-20%). But I am not sure (unless shown some evidence) that I believe a lot of the other claims. Anyone has any sources?

Sources? Did you not see the pubmed article I linked 4 posts above yours?

Also, is it any wonder there hasn't been research on this since 2001? Gee I wonder if there's an agenda or anything...

[Roosh]

(06-16-2015 04:11 PM)Mr West Wrote:  

I understand the views in this forum about homosexuals/homosexuality but to anyone that has done the research and can provide some links; where exactly are the stats that homosexuals are pedophiles? Or that homosexuality is a result of child abuse? Or being raised by homosexuals is any worse than being raised by straight parents?

[dads]

(06-16-2015 04:11 PM)Mr West Wrote:  

I understand the views in this forum about homosexuals/homosexuality but to anyone that has done the research and can provide some links; where exactly are the stats that homosexuals are pedophiles? Or that homosexuality is a result of child abuse? Or being raised by homosexuals is any worse than being raised by straight parents?

ROK and more over this forum has helped me see a lot of the tatics the gay lobby is using to promote homosexuality (like the fact that they only make up 1-3% of the population but have convinced the general public they represent 10-20%). But I am not sure (unless shown some evidence) that I believe a lot of the other claims. Anyone has any sources?

[Phoenix]

(06-16-2015 08:26 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

I wonder if they'll try and make pederasty a thing among gay males.

It's already a thing. When I was in Cambodia I overheard a conversation between two older American men and a local man they appeared to have hired as a guide/assistant. One of them was asking the guide about "that boy we met today", and asking things like "are you going to arrange for us to see him" etc. As I read somewhere, poofters highly value youth generally.

If there is any truth to the theory that this kid is being sexually abused by two gay 'parents', all I can say is that in a just world, two shots would ring out in the night, the kid would be quietly transferred to the care of an orphanage, and the matter would be forgotten about.

[Beyond Borders]

^ This whole thing sounds pretty disturbing (I haven't watched the video and don't want to), but overhearing a conversation in Cambodia may not be representative of the whole world. I've never seen any pedo shit in over 2 years of living here but we all know the country does have a reputation for it.

That said, it's kind of hard to draw that conclusion from what those older guys were saying. They easily could have been talking about a younger man and called him a boy. It's not uncommon for older folks to do that, and I would imagine that's especially true for older gay guys.

Not arguing that there's a problem when little boys are twerking at pride parades - just not sure the example you gave really has any relation here.

[Phoenix]

It felt pretty unambiguous at the time, he had very clear gay voice and mannerisms, and they way he was talking about the 'boy' and requesting assistance to meet him sounded very dodgy. I suppose it's possible they meant 18+ when they said 'boy'.

[Beyond Borders]

Yeah, that's all I meant.

Strange times we live in, nonetheless.

[Hendrixian]

This happened in São Paulo, Brazil. They also put a tranny dressed as Jesus or something, in a cross. Everyone is losing their minds on social media because of this.

[Guitarman]

It is clear from the data that at least 50% of pedophiles are also Homophilliacs.

The question I have is are 100% of Homophilliacs pedophiles?? And for the sake of protecting children from life ruining abuse, and society from disease, what should be done to encourage the suppression of harmful homophillia???

[Samseau]

(06-17-2015 05:22 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  

It is clear from the data that at least 50% of pedophiles are also Homophilliacs.

The question I have is are 100% of Homophilliacs pedophiles?? And for the sake of protecting children from life ruining abuse, and society from disease, what should be done to encourage the suppression of harmful homophillia???

First, by recognizing that homosexuality is a disease and searching for cures. Here's some more research:

Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic

Quote:

Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.

“At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.



Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,” things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

For example, one twin might have exposure to pornography or sexual abuse, but not the other. One twin may interpret and respond to their family or classroom environment differently than the other. “These individual and idiosyncratic responses to random events and to common environmental factors predominate,” he says.

Second, always keep children away from faggots.

[Veloce]

Relevant:

I don't know how this video only has 180 views.

[Phoenix]

Those twin studies are interesting. As most of us have always thought: it can't be genetic since it would suffer powerful adverse selection, and it also isn't a choice. Hence the only remaining explanation for its origin is developmental causes.

[KofiKingston]

A few of the commenters were saying the boy was just "dancing" or "having fun".

Yeah....



I'm sure this boy is just "dancing" and "having fun" too, nothing out of the normal here.

[WalterBlack]

^^^^
I haven't seen the video that the OP is referencing, but this is the kind of shit that goes on in Afghanistan (article from 2010):

The sexually abused dancing boys of Afghanistan

Quote:

In Afghanistan women are not allowed to dance in public, but boys can be made to dance in women's clothing - and they are often sexually abused.

It's after midnight. I'm at a wedding party in a remote village in northern Afghanistan.

There is no sign of the bride or groom, or any women, only men. Some of them are armed, some of them are taking drugs.

Almost everyone's attention is focused on a 15-year-old boy. He's dancing for the crowd in a long and shiny woman's dress, his face covered by a red scarf.

He is wearing fake breasts and bells around his ankles. Someone offers him some US dollars and he grabs them with his teeth.

This is an ancient tradition. People call it bachabaze which literally means "playing with boys".

The most disturbing thing is what happens after the parties. Often the boys are taken to hotels and sexually abused.

The men behind the practice are often wealthy and powerful. Some of them keep several bachas (boys) and use them as status symbols - a display of their riches. The boys, who can be as young as 12, are usually orphans or from very poor families.

Omid's story

I spent months trying to find a bacha who was willing to talk about his experience.

Omid (not his real name) is 15 years old. His father died in the fields, when he stepped on a landmine. As the eldest son, it's his job to look after his mother - who begs on the streets - and two younger brothers.

"I started dancing at wedding parties when I was 10, when my father died," says Omid.

"We were hungry, I had no choice. Sometimes we go to bed on empty stomachs. When I dance at parties I earn about $2 or some pilau rice."

I ask him what happens when people take him to hotels. He bows his head and pauses for a long time before answering.

Omid says he is paid about $2 for the night. Sometimes he is gang raped.

I ask him why he doesn't go to the police for help.

"They are powerful and rich men. The police can't do anything against them."

Omid's mother is in her early 30s, but her hair is white and her face creased. She looks at least 50. She tells me she only has half a kilo of rice and a few onions for dinner. They've run out of cooking oil.

She knows that her son dances at parties but she is more concerned about what they will eat tomorrow. The fact that her son is vulnerable to abuse is far from her mind.

In denial

There have been very few attempts by the authorities to clamp down on the bachabaze tradition.

Muhammad Ibrahim, deputy Police Chief of Jowzjan province, denies that the practice continues.

"We haven't had any cases of bachabaze in the last four-to-five years. It doesn't exist here any more," he says.

"Our officials are too ashamed to admit that it even exists."

Afghanistan is a country where Islamic values are cherished so I asked a Grand Mullah at the Shrine of Ali in Mazar-e Sharif - the holiest place in Afghanistan - for his views on bachabaze.

"Bachabaze is in no way acceptable in Islam. Actually, it's child abuse. It's happening because our justice system doesn't work.

"This country has been lawless for many years and responsible bodies and people can't protect children," he explains.

Dancing boys are picked out at a young age by men who cruise the streets looking for effeminate boys among the poor and vulnerable. They offer them money and food.

The Independent Human Rights Commission in Kabul is one of the few organisations that has attempted to address the bachabaze practice.

The group's head, Musa Mahmudi, says while it is common in many parts of Afghanistan there have been no studies to determine how many children are abused across the country.

He takes me to the street in front of his office to show me just how difficult it is to protect children here.

The streets of Afghanistan are full of working children. They polish shoes, they beg, they gather plastic bottles to resell. They will take on any job which will earn them some money, he says.

Dancing bells

Every Afghan I spoke to knew about bachabaze. Many tried to convince me that it exists only in remote areas.

But I went to a party late at night in the old quarter of Kabul, less than a mile from the government's headquarters.

It was there that I met Zabi (again not his real name), a 40-year-old man who is proud to have three dancing boys.

"My youngest bacha is 15 and the oldest is 18. It wasn't easy to find them. But if you want it badly - you will find them," he says.
Zabi says he has a good job and he gives them money.

"We have a circle of close friends who also have bachas. Sometimes we gather together and put women's clothes and dancing bells on our bachas and they dance for us for two-to-three hours. That's all."

He says he has never slept with his boys, though he admits he hugs and kisses them.

I tell him that many people think this practice is wrong.

"Some people like dog fighting, some practice cockfighting. Everyone has their hobby, for me, it's bachabaze," he says.

When we leave the party at two in the morning a teenage boy is still dancing and offering drugs to the men around him.

Zabi is not especially wealthy or powerful, yet he has three bachas. There are many people who support this tradition across Afghanistan and many of them are very influential.

The Afghan government is unable and some say unwilling to tackle the problem. They are facing a growing insurgent movement. How long international troops will stay in the country is uncertain.

The justice system is weak, poverty is widespread, and there are thousands of children on the streets trying to make a living.

So bachabaze will continue.

There's a documentary about it here:

[Huxley Badkin]

(06-16-2015 08:49 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Bask in the degeneracy. We live in a time where you can be told to leave a public playground because children are around and you aren't responsible for any of them so you're probably a pedophile, but you're shamed if you don't support the sexualization of children. It's okay if they're gay? I think that's the message.

Any perceived historical injustices/oppression has to be paid back in dividends by giving the respective demographic a leg up and a "free pass" to do whatever the fuck hey want and turn the other cheek.

You make an incredibly perceptive (and very disturbing) point, comrade.

According to the 'progressive' narrative:

Single man = Predator. To be despised. Monitor. Ostracise. Assume the worst. Keep away from kids. Especially if straight, white, and, in the jargon, 'cis'.

Two homos looking to adopt(!) = Heroic. To be celebrated. Paragons of virtue; superior, in fact, to man and wife in traditional marriage (and inconvenient evidence contradicting this assertion shall be ignored or suppressed). Any questioning of their right to gain access to children - let alone any expression of disapproval, mild discomfiture, or even indifference at the prospect - is hate, and will not be [Ha!] tolerated.

This isn't a subject I particularly like to dwell on, but it's an astonishing situation when, in the context of caregiving for children, a lone straight male is looked at as practically evil incarnate (and a man and woman in a stable relationship not much better), yet two or more gay males (never mind notoriously violent, abusive dykes) are considered saints...



You said it, Jackie.

[Phoenix]

A relevant case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Paul_Neil.

Quote:

He was the subject of a well-publicized Interpol investigation of the sexual abuse of at least 12 young boys in Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand, primarily owing to the worldwide broadcast of pornographic images depicting the abuse.
...
[In British Columbia] he taught and studied to become a Catholic priest. The Seminary of Christ the King in Mission, British Columbia did not permit Neil to become a priest, and he chose to go into teaching instead.
...
Thai police reportedly located the fugitive by means of a trace on the mobile phone of his 25-year-old gay Thai partner, who was himself identified by transvestites in the beach town of Pattaya.[12] While Neil was teaching in Thailand, he allegedly employed the services of a Thai to bring young boys from internet cafes to his apartment to perform sexual services.

We're definitely on to something with this 'gays and pedophilia' are linked' theory. I'm guessing that the sexually depraved may in fact just be "sexually unhinged generally", rather than just having a different and specific preference.

[Socrates]

(06-18-2015 07:40 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

We're definitely on to something with this 'gays and pedophilia' are linked' theory. I'm guessing that the sexually depraved may in fact just be "sexually unhinged generally", rather than just having a different and specific preference.

Quote:

Ephesians 4:18,19 They are in darkness mentally and alienated from the life that belongs to God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the insensitivity* of their hearts. Having gone past all moral sense, they gave themselves over to brazen conduct to practice every sort of uncleanness with greediness.

*literally "dulling"

It isn't anything new, but the difference now is that we are being told nothing is wrong with it.