[dallasguy]

Better get your pecker checked out

[dallasguy]

What makes you think a prostitute or porn actress doesn't have sex for fun? At least they get paid for spreading their legs. A slut does it for free. They are all fucked in the head, but the slut is the stupid one.

[Robert Plant]

"A career chick that's had over 100 dicks at 35 and looking for that high quality man, by contrast, is in steep decline in her SMV. A womans SMV is highest when she is young and inexperienced. A man's is highest when he's older and experienced.

So me looking for a high quality woman at this point in the game makes sense. For a woman it does not. That ship has sailed."

Yes this is right on and exactly how more guys should be thinking. Yet in a place like the United States where there are so many beta chumps around, an average looking 35 year old can get a ONS within minutes of going out and find a beta provider boyfriend with less than 5 online dates. American women are aware of this which is one of the reason so many choose to slut it up in their 20s. I agree, don't marry a woman like this but lots of other thirsty beta guys will be dying to marry her.

On the other hand if you go to Certain parts of Asia, Europe and Latin America where more men understand their own value, a woman can't get away with this.

[Robert Plant]

"What makes you think a prostitute or porn actress doesn't have sex for fun? At least they get paid for spreading their legs. A slut does it for free. They are all fucked in the head, but the slut is the stupid one."

Of course a prostitute has sex for fun. But they are also having sex (at least some of the time) with guys they are not attracted to. We can argue this all day but I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't put sluts in the same category as prostitutes and gold diggers, some guys do. It really just comes down to how you personally feel about it. For me, I like sleeping with woman who are just doing it for fun and the thought of paying for sex sceeves me out.

[augen sehen]

(12-21-2016 12:45 AM)dallasguy Wrote:  

What makes you think a prostitute or porn actress doesn't have sex for fun? At least they get paid for spreading their legs. A slut does it for free. They are all fucked in the head, but the slut is the stupid one.

I'm sure this is another feminist canard. Yes they are both messed up, taking money for sex fundamentally changes a girl. It takes the pleasurable act of having sex and attaches a monetary value to it. It's no surprise that most of the biggest whores and strippers aren't really into doing it with their boyfriends/husbands. Sex by itself loses meaning for them.

The same as a car geek who becomes an auto mechanic. The last thing you want to do after spending 8 hours under the hood of whoever brought their jalopy in, is to crawl under the hood of your own car. No. You just want something that works and gets you from A to B.

[Roardog]

(12-20-2016 05:11 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 07:20 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 03:07 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

Re: Veloce

"A girl that's been with that many guys requires a level of attention and stimulation and thrills that no one can provide and she's destined to be absolutely miserable."

While I agree that it is probably worse for a girls Psyche when she bangs a lot of guys. I have recently come the realization that it also has the potential to screw up a guy. In the last 2 years, I've been with 40 women and done all kinds of fun stuff, threesomes, multiple girls in one day, rotating girls etc. I don't regret a thing but now I'm in a LTR with a girl I really like and I must say I miss the stimulation of constant gaming (both the ups and downs). The first couple of months when I stopped playing so hard actually felt like a withdrawal. This in spite of the fact that I was still sleeping with multiple women including a side girl. Its hard to replace the thrill of banging new girls all the time. I am a very self actualized guy and I can only imagine a guy who is not as self actualized trying to transition from a player lifestyle to more of a LTR. It would be hard.

How old are you?

When I first got into game and was spinning several plates at once it gave me that thrill.

Before my most recent trip I got 3 new notches in about 3 weeks...my last week I banged all of them plus my ex so 4 girls in a week.

I'm 35 and it doesn't give me anywhere near the same satisfaction. If anything, at this age I feel the emptiness of notch collecting and the push is pretty strong to find that high quality woman.

When talking about LTRs and the sacrifices one makes, for me it's not about the freedom to bang other girls. That's not too difficult.

The main sacrifice a man makes is his freedom, period. The freedom to have time and space to himself without some nagging shithead trying to squeeze more attention out of him.

So no, I don't believe that having a high notch count as a man makes it harder for you to be in an LTR. I don't know how old you are but I imagine it's a lot more about your age than your notch count.

I am right there with you..

Notches mean shit to me now... im also mid 30s and that satisfaction and thrill is also gone. I am looking for that high quality woman.

Thirded.

I'm not quite as old as you guys but I've banged a lot of girls over the years and while I still get a thrill from a new notch it's not what it once was and I've well and truly realised the hollowness of chasing notches simply for the sake of it. Notch count hasn't meant anything to me for a long time.
It's all about the quality for me now and I find myself also being open to the idea of settling down with a quality girl. I'm not chasing it but if a quality girl comes along now I won't be saying no just because I feel I'm too young or haven't banged enough girls, something I would have done earlier in my life.

[John Michael Kane]

4th'ed.

I also have no desire to add notches for the sake of racking up numbers. I've been in a few good LTR's, and a good woman to come home to has huge benefits. Been on the hunt for a wife search now that I'm 32. Not an easy task, but I know that she's out there. Just have to search and filter. All this talk about girls that act like whores doesn't appeal to me. Deep down, I want a good girl who can be the future mother to my children.

[Veloce]

(12-21-2016 07:09 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

"What makes you think a prostitute or porn actress doesn't have sex for fun? At least they get paid for spreading their legs. A slut does it for free. They are all fucked in the head, but the slut is the stupid one."

Of course a prostitute has sex for fun. But they are also having sex (at least some of the time) with guys they are not attracted to. We can argue this all day but I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't put sluts in the same category as prostitutes and gold diggers, some guys do. It really just comes down to how you personally feel about it. For me, I like sleeping with woman who are just doing it for fun and the thought of paying for sex sceeves me out.

Been enjoying your posts man but use the Reply button

[dallasguy]

That's beta cuck talk putting sluts on a pedestal. Some sluts have higher notch counts than prostitutes but you hold them in higher esteem because they got drinks or dinner instead of cash? What is the value of a slut's pussy? It's basically free. The prostitute's pussy is worth more plus they use condoms while most sluts rawdog it. I'm not talking about guys paying for sex. This is about sluts being no better than prostitutes and possibly worse.

They are all in the garbage heap in my eyes as far as LTR. That doesn't mean I wouldn't accept a blowjob or use their chopped beef drapes.

[Robert Plant]

"Been enjoying your posts man but use the Reply button Big Grin"

Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with a chromebook. Does anyone have a solution to this?

[fokker]

Are there any plans for a new retitle of this thread?

[CleanSlate]

(12-22-2016 07:26 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

"Been enjoying your posts man but use the Reply button Big Grin"

Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with a chromebook. Does anyone have a solution to this?

I noticed this on my iPhone as well. It doesn't work in the mobile version. Would be nice to get that bug ironed out.

[Serious Sam]

(12-22-2016 01:18 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

4th'ed.

I also have no desire to add notches for the sake of racking up numbers. I've been in a few good LTR's, and a good woman to come home to has huge benefits. Been on the hunt for a wife search now that I'm 32. Not an easy task, but I know that she's out there. Just have to search and filter. All this talk about girls that act like whores doesn't appeal to me. Deep down, I want a good girl who can be the future mother to my children.

I can't think of any one-nighters that I actually enjoyed. I have a deep-seeded hatred of sluts, and I feel like I lost a piece of myself every time I fucked one to get my rocks off. I honestly wished I had stayed home and jerked off instead.

Even if something doesn't turn into a relationship or marriage, it's nice when you have the same girl around for a few weeks, have some fun, fuck like crazy, enjoy her company, all while finding other girls to hang with.

Sluts are emotionless, spiritless black holes who are only good for draining men sexually, emotionally, spiritually, and financially.

[Oilrig]

I've never been around a slut who was sweet and pleasant to be around. Every slut I've encountered has been vile, obnoxious, loud mouthed, crazy. It would be different if they were fun to be around and added value to my life besides busting a nut, which I can do Myself.

Every time I listen to a slut bring up sex like she's a guy or something, it makes me so disgusted.

[jselysianeagle]

(12-22-2016 01:13 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

I'm not chasing it but if a quality girl comes along now I won't be saying no just because I feel I'm too young or haven't banged enough girls, something I would have done earlier in my life.

I'm in exactly the same boat right now.

[Samseau]

(12-21-2016 12:45 AM)dallasguy Wrote:  

What makes you think a prostitute or porn actress doesn't have sex for fun? At least they get paid for spreading their legs. A slut does it for free. They are all fucked in the head, but the slut is the stupid one.

Whores bang men as long as they get paid. They could be fucking an old fat man or woman.

Sluts only fuck alphas because they get turned on.


Sluts lack self-control but are still functionally human. Whores are emotionally dead mercenaries. I put whores in the lowest category of women possible, unless they were forced into whoring due to things like extreme economic depression or slavery.

The vast majority of women cannot function as whores, it destroys them from the inside.

Imagine if you, as a man, were paid to fuck an old lady, or worse, an old man. Let's say they would attach VR goggles to your face that displayed quality porn so you could get an erection and fuck the old person.

Would you be able to look at yourself afterwards?

[dallasguy]

Whores wear condoms and don't swallow. Sluts take it rawdog up the ass from hundreds or thousands of guys and swallow hundreds of gallons of cum in their pussy or mouth. Imagine sticking your dick in the sane hole where 500 guys have cummed in before you. How about kissing a mouth that has had 500 dicks in it and has gargled a hundred gallons of cum.

A slut that has hundreds of one night stands is just ss emotionally dead and even more mentally ill. The slut is less trustworthy and has lower impulse control, thus is more self-destructive.

Don't give me BS about sluts only fucking alphas. An alpha in a slut's eyes could be a beta in another slut's eyes. I've seen plenty of sluts leaving a club with chumps.

The vast majority of women are mentally damaged after slutting. Just look at the high rates of divorce, abortion, and mental illness among western women the past 30 years. Just as men don't want to marry a whore, they also don't want to marry a slut with roast beef curtains stained with the cum of hundreds of guys. They are going overseas to avoid both.

[MongolianAbroad]

(12-25-2016 01:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Imagine if you, as a man, were paid to fuck an old lady, or worse, an old man. Let's say they would attach VR goggles to your face that displayed quality porn so you could get an erection and fuck the old person.

Would you be able to look at yourself afterwards?

I'm going to have to take a pass on that, Samseau.

I'd rather not imagine that.

[jselysianeagle]

(12-25-2016 01:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sluts only fuck alphas because they get turned on.

Sluts lack self-control but are still functionally human.

You're contradicting yourself. First you say they only fuck alphas, then you say they lack self-control, which means as long as they're turned on or horny, it doesn't matter if the guy is a chump or an alpha, she's getting laid. And most of these women fuck like guys - they have a high sex drive, and just like guys will fuck 5s and 6s when horny, so will these women fuck betas when they're in the mood for some dick.

In my observation, it's absolutely not true that sluts only bang alphas, mainly because more often than not they're not the most attractive women (mostly 5s and 6s) and are unable to consistently get the attention of high quality guys. They often settle for whoever is good enough to have them.

[Windom Earle]

(12-22-2016 03:26 PM)Serious Sam Wrote:  

Sluts are emotionless, spiritless black holes who are only good for draining men sexually, emotionally, spiritually, and financially.

(12-22-2016 05:52 PM)Oilrig Wrote:  

I've never been around a slut who was sweet and pleasant to be around. Every slut I've encountered has been vile, obnoxious, loud mouthed, crazy. It would be different if they were fun to be around and added value to my life besides busting a nut, which I can do Myself.

Every time I listen to a slut bring up sex like she's a guy or something, it makes me so disgusted.

You guys must have a very narrow view or exposure to what a slut is. They come in all shapes and sizes (personality wise) and won't always overtly display these traits you describe, but the tells will always be there if you are conscious of them.

The "best" kind are those that give all of themselves to you emotionally and make being around them a joy (never a constant joy though, because they are typically volatile and can turn that tap off if not getting what they truly desire from the exchange, which usually equates to having money spent on them regularly).

They might actually love you too, in their own conditional capacity, but never mistake their love for being an assurity for loyalty - they'll always be open to advances from other men if it benefits their situation i.e. Hypergamy. They'll even hamster away that there is any wrongdoing in their mind, as they maintain their love toward you.

[Samseau]

(12-25-2016 03:09 AM)dallasguy Wrote:  

Whores wear condoms and don't swallow.

Not if the price is right.

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Sluts take it rawdog up the ass from hundreds or thousands of guys and swallow hundreds of gallons of cum in their pussy or mouth. Imagine sticking your dick in the sane hole where 500 guys have cummed in before you. How about kissing a mouth that has had 500 dicks in it and has gargled a hundred gallons of cum.

This is ridiculous. You are posting numbers only faggots have. The vast majority of sluts have a notch count between 10-30 guys. Then there are the outliers who rack up many more than this.

If the average slut was as bad as you describe, men would never be hard up for sex. They'd be swimming in sex like faggots do and wouldn't even need to learn game.

On the contrary, the sluts are all passed around by the alphas and betas beat off to porn. Their notchcounts are high... by female standards, but nothing compared to alpha male, whores (who easily break into the hundreds), or faggot standards (fags easily break into the thousands).

That said, it only takes 10 different cocks or so to make a woman pretty lousy marriage material. Women are emotionally fragile and even marginal amounts of sex with different guys isn't good for them.

Thus your comparison of the slut to the whore is paltry. Even 100 different men is nothing for a whore. She does it for a living.

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A slut that has hundreds of one night stands is just ss emotionally dead and even more mentally ill. The slut is less trustworthy and has lower impulse control, thus is more self-destructive.

Sure, but this isn't how the vast majority of sluts operate. Conversely, the average whore has hundreds of partners at the bare minimum, while the vast majority of whores go well into the thousands.

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Don't give me BS about sluts only fucking alphas. An alpha in a slut's eyes could be a beta in another slut's eyes. I've seen plenty of sluts leaving a club with chumps.

While it is true that women vary tremendously with their tastes in men, which allows betas to score time to time, there is still a constant pool of alphas who get the majority of sex. So no, it's not BS. You just need to consider averages.

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The vast majority of women are mentally damaged after slutting. Just look at the high rates of divorce, abortion, and mental illness among western women the past 30 years. Just as men don't want to marry a whore, they also don't want to marry a slut with roast beef curtains stained with the cum of hundreds of guys. They are going overseas to avoid both.

First of all, sluts RARELY break into the hundreds, but this is beside the point.

The point is, for all of the damage sluts have, multiply it by 10 and you get the damage whores have.

[Samseau]

(12-25-2016 02:26 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 01:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sluts only fuck alphas because they get turned on.

Sluts lack self-control but are still functionally human.

You're contradicting yourself. First you say they only fuck alphas, then you say they lack self-control, which means as long as they're turned on or horny, it doesn't matter if the guy is a chump or an alpha, she's getting laid.

Chumps rarely turn a woman on.

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And most of these women fuck like guys - they have a high sex drive, and just like guys will fuck 5s and 6s when horny, so will these women fuck betas when they're in the mood for some dick.

Extreme women fuck like guys. Vast majority of sluts take game to bang. Google that phrase, read Roosh's blog post on it. He explains it well.

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In my observation, it's absolutely not true that sluts only bang alphas, mainly because more often than not they're not the most attractive women (mostly 5s and 6s) and are unable to consistently get the attention of high quality guys. They often settle for whoever is good enough to have them.

I am not saying only bang alphas, I am saying the MAINLY bang alphas. Including the 5s and 6s, alphas use them the same way betas use porn.

[doc holliday]

I'm not buying the defense of sluts going on here. These bitches are damaged period. Whether they're only fucking alphas or alphas and betas or whatever, they're still taking lots of dick for free and then hamstering away their ridiculous behavior. I'm also not buying the idea that sluts are in any way redeemable because they aren't any more redeemable to me than prostitutes even if they've taken less dick than a whore. Plus if you read through the various game threads here, you'll read plenty of stories about guys that have had girls tell them about their notch counts being in the high 10s, low 100s which puts them in ho territory (stupid ho territory since they're too fucking dumb to at least monetize that shit). But yeah ok, sluts are an easy way for guys to bump their notch counts up and brag about how many chicks they've fucked, and how awesome their game is so I guess its expected that sluts would receive some moral support. In my mind, sluts are the poor man's prostitutes, for guys with shitloads of time to waste on clowning and gaming these fucking worthless ho's.

[Travesty]

^ Never thought of it that way. Completely agree though as I gain experience. Creative way to put it.

Batting below your own value is like poor man's whore. I know if I had the excess money to burn I'd get a young 8.5+ for the night if I had a big slump rather than go on a Tinder date with an aging 6.

You end up paying that girl lower than you by lowering your pride and motivation to clown for her, waste your precious time, and if the sex isn't even worth a repeat then all in all the other option is a home run in comparison.

Hands down, every time.

[jselysianeagle]

(12-26-2016 12:36 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Chumps rarely turn a woman on.

They don't turn women on at the same rate as alphas, but to conclude from this that chumps never get laid is a mistake. A slut can fuck 10 chumps a month, and for each of those chumps, she could well be their only lay for that month.

Step out of your apartment sometime and look around. You'll see plenty of average and even below average guys with girlfriends, wives, etc.

(12-26-2016 12:36 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Extreme women fuck like guys. Vast majority of sluts take game to bang. Google that phrase, read Roosh's blog post on it. He explains it well.

The point isn't that game isn't involved in banging sluts. The point is that the level of game needed is quite low, so even guys with little game can get lucky. And most average guys can get laid every now and then. It's called "getting lucky" for a reason - Google that phrase.

(12-26-2016 12:36 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

I am not saying only bang alphas, I am saying the MAINLY bang alphas. Including the 5s and 6s, alphas use them the same way betas use porn.

I don't know about this, honestly. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. I think many on this forum are obsessed with this dichotomy of alpha vs beta, it's a very binary way of viewing the world. There's definitely some merit to it, but I think in general there's a lot of grey area. Someone can be alpha in one context and just some guy in another.

And I'm not one to believe something automatically just because so-and-so blogged about it, even if it's Roosh (no offense to Roosh, of course). I don't take stuff I read on the internet as gospel. I'd rather trust my own experience and observations.