[Fortis]

Uh, OP. You've done 3 cycles, so you're now handing out advice on health and steroids? Uh, yeah.

That's akin to getting three ONS from the club and then writing a club game primer. Ha.

I understand that you're trying to help, but I don't think you should be hosting AMAs on a topic that you're only beginning to delve into. I normally wouldn't chime in, but steroids should be treated respectfully and scientifically, so I do have a bit of an issue with a (no offense) amateur trying to hand out advice on this sort of thing.

[LINUX]

With 3 cycles under your belt and only 6 months of gh use, it's hard to take you seriously because you haven't put in the reps. I don't blame you though, after I did three cycles 10+ years ago, I was giving advice also and now I can tell you that I had no idea what I was talking about. I was only regurgitating stuff I read on BB forums and medical journals. In the past 10 years I've done every compound out there and there isn't one compound where you will not have side effects eventually, even on a mere 200mg Test dosage with an AI and SERM on hand.

I want to tell you something important though: About 4 years ago I owned a gym in Denver. We focused mainly on pre-competition with BB and women's physique. It was a tight knit group where everyone knew everyone in scene. I tell you this because I knew one guy who competed in super heavy who died from DNP. He had three kids who lived with me for a few weeks while they sold his home. I also knew a girl who went into cardiac arrest at 23 years old while on the recumbent bike while on clen. Luckily I had an defibrillator on the wall and brought her back. It's so dangerous to come on to a internet forum and answer question about that stuff. So I avoid it and I recommend you do also for liability reasons. We do not live in age where people want to work hard to lose weight. They want a shortcut and see CLEN and DNP as that alternative. Don't mess with CLEN and DNP and be careful with ECA stacks.

In over 10+ years, I've had two prostate biopsies both after running low to moderate doses of tren. I've had one gyno surgery after doing a normal test cycle while keeping my estrogen and progestrone in check. I did a short stint playing college ball and we use to pop Mibolerone and Halotestin like Pez before the games because of the adrenaline and aggression. I was a beast. I ended up at the hospital and my liver came pretty close to shutting down completely. That was my own fault for being stupid. I've had one glute infection and one pec infection from underground, dirty shit I bought off the internet which required surgery and countless other infections at the beginning that I've taken antibiotics for to clear it up. I've also had some issues with gh so I no longer do the 3/3/4 routine. 2iu ed is just as well.

My advice to anyone looking to get into the game is to either stay on or stay off. And stop doing cycles. Stop playing slingshot with your levels. Cruise at 200 and blast at a higher dose if you want. You can accomplish everything you need on Test alone and taking Deca is heaven for your joints, if you're over 30. I only use stuff I buy at pharmacies now and recommend everyone else does also. I've come along way from FINA pellets and HEET from the autoparts store. Once you have a script, you can even fly to Colombia with your empty vials and fill them up with Bayer pharm grade for a few bucks.

I have learned little to nothing from the bodybuilding forums but I've learned a lot from the mistakes I have made.

[Fortis]

^ And that is how you let us know you know what's up.

Thanks for the total honesty, Linux.

[Brisey]

(05-22-2015 11:54 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

With 3 cycles under your belt and only 6 months of gh use, it's hard to take you seriously because you haven't put in the reps. I don't blame you though, after I did three cycles 10+ years ago, I was giving advice also and now I can tell you that I had no idea what I was talking about. I was only regurgitating stuff I read on BB forums and medical journals. In the past 10 years I've done every compound out there and there isn't one compound where you will not have side effects eventually, even on a mere 200mg Test dosage with an AI and SERM on hand.

I want to tell you something important though: About 4 years ago I owned a gym in Denver. We focused mainly on pre-competition with BB and women's physique. It was a tight knit group where everyone knew everyone in scene. I tell you this because I knew one guy who competed in super heavy who died from DNP. He had three kids who lived with me for a few weeks while they sold his home. I also knew a girl who went into cardiac arrest at 23 years old while on the recumbent bike while on clen. Luckily I had an defibrillator on the wall and brought her back. It's so dangerous to come on to a internet forum and answer question about that stuff. So I avoid it and I recommend you do also for liability reasons. We do not live in age where people want to work hard to lose weight. They want a shortcut and see CLEN and DNP as that alternative. Don't mess with CLEN and DNP and be careful with ECA stacks.

In over 10+ years, I've had two prostate biopsies both after running low to moderate doses of tren. I've had one gyno surgery after doing a normal test cycle while keeping my estrogen and progestrone in check. I did a short stint playing college ball and we use to pop Mibolerone and Halotestin like Pez before the games because of the adrenaline and aggression. I was a beast. I ended up at the hospital and my liver came pretty close to shutting down completely. That was my own fault for being stupid. I've had one glute infection and one pec infection from underground, dirty shit I bought off the internet which required surgery and countless other infections at the beginning that I've taken antibiotics for to clear it up. I've also had some issues with gh so I no longer do the 3/3/4 routine. 2iu ed is just as well.

My advice to anyone looking to get into the game is to either stay on or stay off. And stop doing cycles. Stop playing slingshot with your levels. Cruise at 200 and blast at a higher dose if you want. You can accomplish everything you need on Test alone and taking Deca is heaven for your joints, if you're over 30. I only use stuff I buy at pharmacies now and recommend everyone else does also. I've come along way from FINA pellets and HEET from the autoparts store. Once you have a script, you can even fly to Colombia with your empty vials and fill them up with Bayer pharm grade for a few bucks.

I have learned little to nothing from the bodybuilding forums but I've learned a lot from the mistakes I have made.

Can you break down the gh routine you did Linux? Also what issues did you have?

[Atlantic]

Linux can you break down possible effect on your immune system...

Does doing test cause you to be more or less likely to get infections, colds, sickness etc?
Also stress levels - do you think they go up or down or is that something that is independent of test and more related to the person?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-22-2015 11:54 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

With 3 cycles under your belt and only 6 months of gh use, it's hard to take you seriously because you haven't put in the reps. I don't blame you though, after I did three cycles 10+ years ago, I was giving advice also and now I can tell you that I had no idea what I was talking about. I was only regurgitating stuff I read on BB forums and medical journals. In the past 10 years I've done every compound out there and there isn't one compound where you will not have side effects eventually, even on a mere 200mg Test dosage with an AI and SERM on hand.

I want to tell you something important though: About 4 years ago I owned a gym in Denver. We focused mainly on pre-competition with BB and women's physique. It was a tight knit group where everyone knew everyone in scene. I tell you this because I knew one guy who competed in super heavy who died from DNP. He had three kids who lived with me for a few weeks while they sold his home. I also knew a girl who went into cardiac arrest at 23 years old while on the recumbent bike while on clen. Luckily I had an defibrillator on the wall and brought her back. It's so dangerous to come on to a internet forum and answer question about that stuff. So I avoid it and I recommend you do also for liability reasons. We do not live in age where people want to work hard to lose weight. They want a shortcut and see CLEN and DNP as that alternative. Don't mess with CLEN and DNP and be careful with ECA stacks.

In over 10+ years, I've had two prostate biopsies both after running low to moderate doses of tren. I've had one gyno surgery after doing a normal test cycle while keeping my estrogen and progestrone in check. I did a short stint playing college ball and we use to pop Mibolerone and Halotestin like Pez before the games because of the adrenaline and aggression. I was a beast. I ended up at the hospital and my liver came pretty close to shutting down completely. That was my own fault for being stupid. I've had one glute infection and one pec infection from underground, dirty shit I bought off the internet which required surgery and countless other infections at the beginning that I've taken antibiotics for to clear it up. I've also had some issues with gh so I no longer do the 3/3/4 routine. 2iu ed is just as well.

My advice to anyone looking to get into the game is to either stay on or stay off. And stop doing cycles. Stop playing slingshot with your levels. Cruise at 200 and blast at a higher dose if you want. You can accomplish everything you need on Test alone and taking Deca is heaven for your joints, if you're over 30. I only use stuff I buy at pharmacies now and recommend everyone else does also. I've come along way from FINA pellets and HEET from the autoparts store. Once you have a script, you can even fly to Colombia with your empty vials and fill them up with Bayer pharm grade for a few bucks.

I have learned little to nothing from the bodybuilding forums but I've learned a lot from the mistakes I have made.

Well said.

One thing...do you really think guys in their early or mid 20s who want to do a cycle or two should just go right for blast and cruise?

I never had much of an issue with PCT or keeping gains from relatively short/low dose cycles.

I'm still on the fence about TRT/cruising, and I'm 34. Currently I plan on doing a PCT after this cycle, seeing how I feel, and monitoring how my natural test levels recover.

[LINUX]

(05-22-2015 12:41 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Linux can you break down possible effect on your immune system...

Does doing test cause you to be more or less likely to get infections, colds, sickness etc?
Also stress levels - do you think they go up or down or is that something that is independent of test and more related to the person?

I know you're messing with me. I won't bite.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Testosterone+%2C+immune+system+

[Cattle Rustler]

(05-22-2015 09:52 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

Aren't you cute.

Maybe you should learn how to read.

You also should look up sarcasm and expand your vocabulary. Or better yet, continue to take everything literally, and make yourself look even more foolish. It certainly is entertaining.

Leave sarcasm and snark to the females.

Are you a female?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-22-2015 12:41 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Linux can you break down possible effect on your immune system...

Does doing test cause you to be more or less likely to get infections, colds, sickness etc?
Also stress levels - do you think they go up or down or is that something that is independent of test and more related to the person?

You just need to hustle Atlantic, and you'll be fine.

[RexImperator]

"'Roid rage troll" might be a new archetype...

Nevertheless, this thread ended up being educational.

[Atlantic]

Quote:

You just need to hustle Atlantic

El Mechanico has exclusive rights to all Atlantic hustle jokes.

Lets keep this thread on topic. For the record my question to Linux wasn't being disingenuous. I spent a good while reading up on it earlier today after I posted.

[Oz.]

OP has left us one cycle too soon

[rudebwoy]

Linux - great post my man, love the honest writing.

[badscientist]

Does anyone here have experience or advice on DNP and Anabolic stacks for dropping body fat and making lean body mass gains?

[LINUX]

(05-24-2015 05:18 AM)badscientist Wrote:  

Does anyone here have experience or advice on DNP and Anabolic stacks for dropping body fat and making lean body mass gains?

Are you serious??

Did you even read my post or did you just skip to the bottom to post?

I just told you I had experience with it and my friend died from it and you should avoid it.

unbelievable.

[Phoenix]

Yes I think there should be a rule against people just typing blindly into threads without reading them. I've seen a lot of this.

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-24-2015 05:18 AM)badscientist Wrote:  

Does anyone here have experience or advice on DNP and Anabolic stacks for dropping body fat and making lean body mass gains?

DNP is a great way to get Zyzz's physique.

[The Beast1]

Where do you get this stuff?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-24-2015 10:55 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Where do you get this stuff?

https://www.1napsgear.org/

[Foolsgo1d]

I don't do gear whatsoever so what does "cruising" mean? Going at a steady pace your body can keep up with?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-24-2015 06:56 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I don't do gear whatsoever so what does "cruising" mean? Going at a steady pace your body can keep up with?

Cruising means reducing the dose to a level that is approximately equal to a high TRT dose (200 mg/week), and staying at that dose for enough time to allow your blood results to normalize...and then go back into another blast. Blast and cruise means you are always taking a steroid, and alternate high doses with low doses in order to minimize the health consequences.

[Cattle Rustler]

(05-24-2015 08:03 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

(05-24-2015 05:18 AM)badscientist Wrote:  

Does anyone here have experience or advice on DNP and Anabolic stacks for dropping body fat and making lean body mass gains?

Are you serious??

Did you even read my post or did you just skip to the bottom to post?

I just told you I had experience with it and my friend died from it and you should avoid it.

unbelievable.

Well, the poster did admit to being a bad scientist.

So there might be some credibility to that.

[badscientist]

(05-24-2015 08:03 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

Did you even read my post or did you just skip to the bottom to post?

I did skip to the bottom post, but I scrolled up and read your previous post.

I understand there's a risk of death with any kind of PEDs. But I don't need to be told to avoid them, I'm asking if anyone has real experience or medical advice such as dosages for DNP anabolic stacks.

Here's one good source for DNP info: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabol...-info.html

PS. I am sorry to hear about your friends death.

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(05-25-2015 08:57 AM)badscientist Wrote:  

(05-24-2015 08:03 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

Did you even read my post or did you just skip to the bottom to post?

I did skip to the bottom post, but I scrolled up and read your previous post.

I understand there's a risk of death with any kind of PEDs. But I don't need to be told to avoid them, I'm asking if anyone has real experience or medical advice such as dosages for DNP anabolic stacks.

Here's one good source for DNP info: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabol...-info.html

PS. I am sorry to hear about your friends death.

You understand incorrectly.

There is a risk of death associated with only a very limited handful of PEDs commonly used: insulin, DNP, and clen.

None of the above is a steroid.

DNP is an industrial pesticide with numerous side effects, and is not something I would recommend at any dose.

Don't eat garbage, and don't neglect cardio. That's how to best control weight and body fat in a sustainable way.

[badscientist]

(05-25-2015 09:13 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

You understand incorrectly.

There is a risk of death associated with only a very limited handful of PEDs commonly used: insulin, DNP, and clen.

I know insulin is a highly contentious topic which is why I was going to avoid mentioning it here. DNP is by biochemical definition a poison to humans, so I'm very aware of its high risk of death.

I've did a fair bit of research into its mechanisms of actions and it is a powerful fat burning drug. For this reason I was curious to see if anyone here had information to share on stacking it with anabolics for lean body mass gains at the ~8% bf region.

But I appreciate your comments and understand it's perhaps not something suitable to talk about here.