[TripleG]

This Craig Schattner, 30 guy is a disgrace to the male race. He is tall, dark, handsome...basically the 3 factors that many American sluts look for and he still can't get laid in a city that has an OK ratio. While I hate DC for dating I must say that the dozen's of first date's i've been on the last year, more than half of them I spent $0 on...the rest were coffee dates at around $4/avg.
How one can spend $90 on a first date and probably get nothing more than a kiss on the cheek at the end is inexcusable. What pisses me off is that these girls then get spoiled by these beta chumps who keep throwing money on them and then later they expect most guys to treat them this way with all this unwarranted attention. They end up believing that their $h!t don't smell.

[DarkTriad]

(04-07-2015 02:01 PM)Saladin Wrote:  

The girls can sense the beta in him and are running away.

40-60$/per encounter?

That's insane, especially with no game. I can see a player justify that if he's converting and he enjoys going to higher quality places, but its clear he's taking them to nice places to impress them.

I take girls to the dive bar with the cheapest pitcher in town and its a nice cozy spot with excellent logistics for me. That's a helluva better date than sitting across each other at a restaurant because its more dingy with corners and such making it excellent for escalation.

Guys like this get slaughtered. On paper he's good looking and well dressed, but his mindset absolutely murders his results.

Learned this lesson the hard way.

[philosophical_recovery]

(04-08-2015 06:46 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 06:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

This woman is absolutely repugnant.

No, she's just a Millennial Basic Bitch.

Note her words:

"I almost worry sometimes that I won't want to be in a relationship, because it's always right there if I wanted it... I just don't want it."

This is exactly what I'm referring to when I keep saying that they all seem to have Dismissive-Avoidant Attachment Styles.

Wikipedia has an approachable-simplification of the concept:

Quote:

People with a dismissive style of avoidant attachment tend to agree with these statements: "I am comfortable without close emotional relationships", "It is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient", and "I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me." People with this attachment style desire a high level of independence. The desire for independence often appears as an attempt to avoid attachment altogether. They view themselves as self-sufficient and invulnerable to feelings associated with being closely attached to others. They often deny needing close relationships. Some may even view close relationships as relatively unimportant. Not surprisingly, they seek less intimacy with relationship partners, whom they often view less positively than they view themselves.

This is all defensive rationalisation.

The avoidant subset used to about 1 in 4, but, from my personal observations, I'd rather it much higher in the population now. What changed?

This style of attachment is exactly what you're predict in a child raised by a narcissistic mother focused on her own concerns rather than those of her child.

Jesus.

Shit like this makes me glad I learned how to dance so long ago. I just pondered for a bit what it would be like to move into a new city in this day and age, without that ability to go out and meet people immediately, and I realized how solid of a skill it is to be able to dance and jump into a new social scene.

In contrast, this and other basic bitches show up in a new town, and instead of going out in public or making real friends through activities, church, volunteering, work, libraries, hiking, meetup, whatever go straight to online dating and tinder as their only option.

And this option works for them! They can hop from dick to dick, wallet to wallet, at the same time, with hardly any repercussion through the prevalent rape beta culture, where any guy has to develop a body, social acumen, and skills in order to not look like a total loser. Imagine if a guy moved to a city and all he did was surf online dating, never touched a gym, just did tinder and work and ate by himself except for when he snagged a landwhale on discount at the local market. He's a fucking loser too.

These bitches are losers. Fuck them. No wait, don't do that. Let the other guys do that, unless you're in a dry spell.


One more thing about this guy:

He went through dozens of dates and thousands of dollars, doing the same damn thing, without success. If I had a handful of dates, and they ended up nowhere, I tried to figure out what the hell I was doing wrong. Before game. I self-analyzed. Something else is amiss here, as he is missing a huge level of introspection and self awareness. You could probably slap him in the face with a copy of The Rational Male, a printed out copy of Roosh's and Roissy's online canon, and he'd still be doing the same damn thing, because he would think it didn't apply to him.

Unless he had a come to Jesus moment. But, that should've happened already. I think he enjoys being the center of attention for how pathetic he is.

That ended up more like a rant than I expected it to be...

[MdWanderer]

(04-08-2015 08:37 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

While I hate DC for dating I must say that the dozen's of first date's i've been on the last year, more than half of them I spent $0 on...the rest were coffee dates at around $4/avg.

What are your secrets if you don't mind me asking. I've yet to master the cheap date (although I don't spend $90 per date like that guy).

[Captain Gh]

(04-08-2015 06:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

This woman is absolutely repugnant.

R.I.P in advance to the man, because one will for sure, who will put a ring on it! She represents Hypergamy to it's finest! A women like this unchained will never be satisfied...never!

[Rang off the Pipe]

The best part about that video was the dog at the end.

[SlickyBoy]

Quote:

it's getting harder to tell who's gay and who's straight.

Very true - used to think I had pretty good gaydar, but now it keeps getting false positives. So many uptalking dweebs come across as gay nowadays.

[jariel]

What's the definition of insanity again?

Instead of wasting money on DOA first dates, dude could get his passport well-stamped, get laid, and have a lot more money in his pocket.

I keep saying it, dudes need to be smarter about the dating game.

Some dudes, like this one, need to get their passport on, he's throwing up bricks when he could get off a plane and hit layups.

Until then...

[Iso]

(04-08-2015 08:37 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

This Craig Schattner, 30 guy is a disgrace to the male race. He is tall, dark, handsome...basically the 3 factors that many American sluts look for and he still can't get laid in a city that has an OK ratio. While I hate DC for dating I must say that the dozen's of first date's i've been on the last year, more than half of them I spent $0 on...the rest were coffee dates at around $4/avg.
How one can spend $90 on a first date and probably get nothing more than a kiss on the cheek at the end is inexcusable. What pisses me off is that these girls then get spoiled by these beta chumps who keep throwing money on them and then later they expect most guys to treat them this way with all this unwarranted attention. They end up believing that their $h!t don't smell.

Where in DC are you going for those $0 dates?

[Merenguero]

(04-09-2015 05:08 PM)jariel Wrote:  

What's the definition of insanity again?

Instead of wasting money on DOA first dates, dude could get his passport well-stamped, get laid, and have a lot more money in his pocket.

I keep saying it, dudes need to be smarter about the dating game.

Some dudes, like this one, need to get their passport on, he's throwing up bricks when he could get off a plane and hit layups.

Until then...

I'm really not so sure that this guy would do any better abroad. Most guys who get nothing in the United States would probably get the same in other countries. I've known one guy my whole life who got nothing in the United States, but got girls in other countries. This guy was an athletic-looking black guy with decent intelligence and sense of humor, but just couldn't put it all together. He would go to other countries and get girls who were probably not that great and eventually married a below-average girl while abroad. Kind of a sad story.

[TooFineAPoint]

(04-08-2015 06:46 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

"I almost worry sometimes that I won't want to be in a relationship, because it's always right there if I wanted it... I just don't want it."

This is exactly what I'm referring to when I keep saying that they all seem to have Dismissive-Avoidant Attachment Styles.

Wikipedia has an approachable-simplification of the concept:

Quote:

People with a dismissive style of avoidant attachment tend to agree with these statements: "I am comfortable without close emotional relationships", "It is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient", and "I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me." People with this attachment style desire a high level of independence. The desire for independence often appears as an attempt to avoid attachment altogether. They view themselves as self-sufficient and invulnerable to feelings associated with being closely attached to others. They often deny needing close relationships. Some may even view close relationships as relatively unimportant. Not surprisingly, they seek less intimacy with relationship partners, whom they often view less positively than they view themselves.

This is all defensive rationalisation.

Shit... that hits close to home, as that's exactly how I feel. In your opinion, would you say this hits alarm bells for both sexes, or more so for females (given their biological imperative to be mothering/nurturing)?

[TheBMan]

If you want a cheap date in DC avoid the bars. Meet in Georgetown, have coffee and cake at a bakery, and walk around the city together. If you must drink just have one and stop there - usually she will follow your lead.

[GreenHills]

(04-08-2015 09:10 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

In contrast, this and other basic bitches show up in a new town, and instead of going out in public or making real friends through activities, church, volunteering, work, libraries, hiking, meetup, whatever go straight to online dating and tinder as their only option.

She doesn't need to do these things.

I went to volunteer at the coolest music festival in my city - the volunteers were a sad bunch.
I went to classes - one out of ten people there might be a so so pretty girl.
I went to an European meetup of some kind - old people.

Interesting experiences though, good for making connections and making yourself a well rounded man.

It's slim pickings at these organized things, from my experience. I walk on the street and I see pretty girls left and right though, so they do exist.

Girls like this one just need to show up, chat a bit and their life starts spinning fun things to do, new boyfriends, travel, relationships blah blah blah.

Point is - some people will have it easy. Easier than people who are working hard to be who they are. Life is not fair and that's a fact that's a bit difficult to swallow.

Good thing is, there's plenty of joy to be had in your own successes. Everyone else is just doing their thing, it doesn't really matter.

[Naughty By Nature]

(04-07-2015 01:04 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

"Craig Schattner, 30, has been single in D.C. for 45 months. By his count, he’s been on about 90 first dates in D.C., spending $40 to $60 on each encounter."