[iknowexactly]

I am finding through extensive and tireless research here in the Philippines that a lot of girls seem to be unable to orgasm.

The debate as to whether it's me or not is sort of academic unless we get one girl and pass her around lol, and seriously I think it is a widespread problem especially among poor girls.

I think the reason is they have no privacy growing up. Almost none of the girls I've bedded have their own room, and I think most never had their own room growing up. One girl who I'm sure had never orgasmed sleeps with TWO other sisters in a bed.

I am very affectionate, like giving oral sex, and am judiciously dominant, but when I ask some of them if they've ever had an orgasm they get a puzzled look on their faces and I know they haven't, you can't forget an experience like that.

I had this problem with about 30% of American women and that's in line with statistics I've seen- a significant percentage of women have trouble orgasming.

There are some stoics posting here that assert female orgasm is irrelevant to them, but I am totally on the other side of this.

If I can't feel her losing it, I do not feel content. I don't think the kind of bond I want can form without the girl orgasming.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There is probably something to it. Female orgasm is certainly to a good degree psychological.

However there are certainly physical limitations with some, lower libido, health issues, etc. Nowadays there are some good supplements and added help which can increase the likelihood of orgasms - http://blog.ucsusa.org/wp-content/upload...artoon.jpg

Still - I believe that a psychological blockage can be prevalent as well in many girls - not being able to open up and surrender is a big thing. As with most of female sexual patterns - it's fucking complicated.

[ThrustMaster]

I've had my share of partners, I've been with chicks that can O in minutes from PIV, some that take a little longer, some that require manual stimulation and PIV, and some that can only come from oral or manual. Never met one that couldn't, or didn't one way or another.

[The Lizard of Oz]

IKE, this is a complex subject but here are the two things that should be held in mind at the same time:

-- Yes, it is very good to make a girl come hard when you're fucking her. And it is absolutely true that girls remember men who make them come hard and form a much deeper sexual attachment to them and become addicted to them.

-- But no, that does not mean that you have to spend an hour eating her pussy, or "making her squirt" (LOL) or trying to stick fingers into her holes in some particular way. All of that nonsense is useless and a waste of everyone's time.

Here is the key:

The thing that gets a girl more excited -- by far -- than anything else is when she is being fucked by a man who truly loves fucking her. When a man acts like a pig in shit -- utterly relaxed, and utterly absorbed in the joy of fucking the girl in the exact way he wants to do it -- something happens to a female which is unlike anything else. It drives them crazy and makes them wet and dripping and that is the source of the deepest and strongest female orgasms. It is not any particular technical skill or trickery on the part of the man -- it is his relaxed but savage concentration on the sheer raging joy of fucking and using the girl to his heart's and his balls' content exactly as he wants to at every given moment.

Add to this two more things if possible:

If you can talk sexually to a girl before and during the fucking -- if that is something that comes naturally to you -- that is a very big deal. They are suckers for language more than just about anything else, and they can come just from listening to a man if the man is very sexual and fluent and shameless. If you feel like it at all, talk to them when you're fucking them, tell them what they are and how you think about them, call them names, if and as they flow off your tongue. But this cannot be forced -- it must come somewhat natively, or not at all.

Finally, the girl must be taught to become an expert masturbator. She should be playing with her pussy in many different sexual contexts involving you -- when talking to you on the phone, when sucking you off, when taking cock in any hole. This is something she should just learn to do, and if you are fucking her with relish and delight and making her excited, it will not be a hard skill for her to come by.

Put these things together, and virtually any girl in the world can be made to come, and come hard. But the precondition, the thing that makes it all possible, is that you have to be very into fucking her. But then again, if you're not then you shouldn't care anyway, and shouldn't even be with her. So it all works out.

[reco2100]

Exactly what Lizard says. I was going to say a lot of these things. A woman is like an antennae they respond to what you do and say and feel.

They are following your lead. And when you are enjoying the ride they will enjoy it much more. I have noticed over the years that I can be fucking a chick and if I tell her how good it feels how she perks up, and if I tell her I am cumming she even perks up more. Of course some more than others.

It is so mental. And for a girl to cum she needs to be very relaxed so you have a couple of things working against yourself here.

1. Thier society of family may be very sexually repressive.
2. They may feel uncomfortable around you to let go. And this is critical.
3. If you are feeling any type of stress they will pick up on this and multiply it.
4. Also many men lick their girls pussy to make them cum instead of for their own pure pleasure. This can many times put pressure on the woman and cause her to lock up and not let go. There have been countless honest interviews with women where they a good percentage of them do not enjoy oral because of the pressure it puts on them to have to perform/cum for the man.


And finally you are right about not having privacy probably not been able to masturbate and learn her body is key. She may not have any practice at all except for spreading her legs for a man.

And never ever ever be judgmental about any little thing. Even as little as a snicker or a little face or anything in the bedroom. You must be 100% positive at all times, it can be delicate process that takes time and a shit load of patience.

I heard someone describe it as a roller coaster ride some people never get on the roller coaster because it is too scary. Now imagine that you get on the coaster and at the top of the highest drop with all the buildup and the fear you could safely step off the coaster. Would you? A lot of women would and do. Those are the orgasmic and multi orgasmic. They take that leap easily. Asian women many times do not fall into this category. Some you can even feel them clamp down to prevent orgasm. Many women go right over the top easy. But others are too scared and need to be coaxed and lead over the top. Sometimes it is as little as giving them permission.

A lot more to this shit.

On the love thing. I am not sure any woman can really love a man like a man loves a woman.

[Phoenix]

I too thought that it was just because girls don't orgasm much, until I saw the RVF poll, which put the median at 'I make them orgasm 75% of the time' (http://www.rooshvforum.network/polls.php?act...&pid=260). Humbling. After reading that, I put it squarely on my radar as a point of self-improvement.

Recently I've noticed that girls have starting saying "you're really good" not just often - but most of the time. Some of them would even send me messages out of the blue saying 'they missed my sex', 'mine was the best' etc. But whilst they were clearly enjoying it during - they still weren't actually orgasming. So I'm still working on this myself.

I suspect part of it is because my escalation has become too smooth. Perhaps almost mechanical and efficiency-minded. As a result, I think I am not getting the girl fully aroused pre-sex. I may be getting her aroused enough to start sex, but not enough for her to reach orgasm when it begins, even though the sex itself is apparently good. Like other posters have said, the mental aspect is probably the most important. I probably need to be more patient, and work more on verbal aspects to 'get into her head' and cause psychological stimulation, since physical stimulation by itself just won't work.

[Sonoma]

I can make almost any girl orgasm via my hands, however, one girl I have prefers sex, despite orgasm not being gauranteed. (Sometimes she gets sore and can't have prolonged sex/fingerung)

[rpg]

Money and booze turn women on. Use wisely.
That said, years ago I was having a playful conversation one on one with a girl I know. After a while I asked her to sit on my knee/thigh area. She came right then on my leg.

[Virtus]

To the question in the title. Yes. If you define love as acting for the interest of another selflessly. Because neither big O nor even sex are necessary for that. But of course there are those that will question basic ability of women to do that

[BiggNastee]

I try not to worry about it because it will become consuming and fuck with my head during sex. If it happens it happens

[philosophical_recovery]

I've run into a couple girls that had that peculiarity. Actually, one said she never orgasmed. The other didn't like sex, I don't know if she ever had an orgasm with me, and I don't really care.

But, two points of interest:

The one who never had an orgasm was heavily into BDSM and to a certain extent, liked being passed around. She would do just about anything and everything, and actually had a pleasant personality. She just never bonded, and would have sex at the drop of a hat. I fucked her and her friend off and on, depending on if I ran into them in town or if they or I texted. Everyone knew, I went for the threesome but never could get them both at my place at the same time.

The other had some kind of warped experience with an ex, and thus very little experience at all. She stated over and over again that she could go without sex, but would bus well over an hour some days to see me, and then we'd mainly fuck and laze about in the bed, sometimes going 4-5 times in 24 hours before I drove her home (which took 15 minutes compared to the 1 hour bus ride). She would get this look in her eyes of devotion to my orgasm, and let me do things just because I found them entertaining, and would hold me in an endearing way that other girls didn't. I actually really enjoyed having sex with her, because deep down, she just was glad to be pleasing to me.

Contrast this to a girl that didn't have sex until she was in her mid-late 20s (other than a few instances of oral). She owned some kind of sex toys (which she kept hinting at and trying to bring into our sex but I turned her down every time). She fucked like a guy jerking off. She got extremely upset if she didn't orgasm, and it wore me out and killed my pleasure making her cum, because there were only a couple positions where she could go. It was annoying, killed my mood, and I could only stand fucking her once or twice.

I cut it off after I found myself waking up sometime early in the morning to her masturbating next to me in bed. No fucking wonder I wasn't sleeping well. It was a huge turn-off. I've never had that happen with a girl before. Every other girl that was that horny just started blowing me at night/in the morning, or I woke them up in the middle of the night to have my way with them. She had spent so many years fine-tuning her vagina to her sex toys that she was incapable of just fucking for the sake of fucking. An orgasm had to come at the end. I am capable of enjoying just being inside of a girl if her personality during the act is pleasing enough, but not her. If I wasn't going to cum, I didn't want to touch her.

[Lizard King]

Remember Rollo's Iron Rule #6: Women are fundamentally incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved by a woman.

So careful what you wish for.


men: romantics/women: realists

[gamebreaker32]

Might be onto something. Was with a chick for 5 months and at age 24 I was her first actual boyfriend, she said she would always pull away if a guy likes her alot or she would go for a guy she couldnt get. She broke up with me after asking to cum on her face a few weeks ago, she became really distant after it and said she didn't want to have sex anymore, there is more to it but the cum on the face was the katalyst. She said she had never orgasmed from sex but has from a vibrator. She told me her mom shuts out her dad and during the relationship she would shut me out at times. Needless to say I do think there could be a link to a inability to orgasm from sex and inability to love also.

[Phoenix]

(03-28-2015 01:34 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Remember Rollo's Iron Rule #6: Women are fundamentally incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved by a woman.

So careful what you wish for.

men: romantics/women: realists

Lol this is an 'Iron Rule?'. Poor Rollo.

[Avon Barksdale]

^^^^^^^^^
How so?

[Sp5]

(03-28-2015 10:27 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 01:34 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

Remember Rollo's Iron Rule #6: Women are fundamentally incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved by a woman.

So careful what you wish for.

men: romantics/women: realists

Lol this is an 'Iron Rule?'. Poor Rollo.

You have to read Rollo to understand the Rule.

It's not that a woman can't be strongly attracted or even obsessive about a man. It's that the roots of those feelings in a woman are not the same as the roots of a man's love. Men cannot expect that their self-sacrificial love will be reciprocated by a woman.

[Sourcecode]

The inverse of this.
If you can make a girl orgasm.. You can make her do anything