[Designate]

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How much money can I make?

A study will usually pay between $350 to $12,000. The highest study I've done has paid me $8,500 for 30 days. I've done a study that paid me 6 grand for taking Sudafed twice. I've been paid 4 grand to take 3 doses of adderal in another. I've been paid 1 grand for 1 day to take a colon cleanse medication. These are just a few I've been involved with. Don't expect to get paid 12 grand for a study that's shorter than 6 months, it will most likely be a very long study. There are however studies for $10,000 that last 32-40 days.

You should talk a bit about the tax implications on these "earnings". How big is Uncle Sam's cut of this? If it is the same cut as a normal 9-5 job of the same yearly earnings then I find this even less appealing.

(03-14-2015 11:53 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

Can't workout? Wouldn't even consider it then.

Yeah, $8,500 for 30 days of no lifting with the added bonus of the inherent health risks? Fuck that. Maybe for 3 or 4 times that price.

[Jackreacher]

(03-14-2015 06:04 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

The places listed in your datasheet are no where near me. Since I'm not ready to quit the job to do this, I'm waiting for apple store version of the app to see what's local for me.

Jack, do you go other states to do this? Not sure from the data-sheet but do live in these clinics while doing the trials?

I do travel to different states for trials. And yes when I check in I am living inside the clinic for a certain period of time ranging from 1 day to 35 days maximum. There are also studies where you do not need to stay inside the clinic and can just do outpatient visits, so you can just come in the morning or afternoon and they'll draw your blood, check vitals etc. I did one of those paid me $8,200 but it lasted 3 months. Still not bad at all if you have a job or business you're running in the meantime.

[Jackreacher]

(03-15-2015 10:49 AM)Designate Wrote:  

You should talk a bit about the tax implications on these "earnings". How big is Uncle Sam's cut of this? If it is the same cut as a normal 9-5 job of the same yearly earnings then I find this even less appealing.

Sure, the cut is what you make it. I have a lot of "deductibles".

[JoeChange]

Personally I'd do it if the medication was applied externally such as creams to skin but there is no ways I'd be a ginea pig and ingest medication for the purpose of testing.

[Jackreacher]

(03-15-2015 08:22 PM)JoeChange Wrote:  

Personally I'd do it if the medication was applied externally such as creams to skin but there is no ways I'd be a ginea pig and ingest medication for the purpose of testing.

It really boils down to the type of medication you're taking and the dosage amount. If you're taking study drug "9xn1n" developed to treat pancreatic cancer and it's never been tested on humans then you're taking a significant risk, it's up to you if you take that study. I wouldn't.

I just signed up for a nice $5000 study 16 days inside split into two check in periods.
Study drugs I'll be taking are Aleve and Aspirin.

[Phoenix]

Out of curiosity, from your research or asking questions, do you have any stories of the most extreme testing? E.g. the most invasive tests or those that went the most wrong?

[scotian]

In Canada a lot of this is done in Montreal as its the biotech capital, the back pages of weekly indy newspapers are full of the ads, I remember seeing one for a cocaine study done by McGill University where they administered free blow. I tried to get on one about ten years ago when I was a broke student but they denied me when I told them that I was allergic to milk, so I never got to do it, they were pretty straight up about it, if I couldn't drink milk, I couldn't do the testing. Nice data sheet OP.

[Mr Finish]

(03-12-2015 04:36 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

I've been working on some new projects lately including one related to this subject so I'd like to share with you guys what to me may be one of the easiest ways to make money. Like everything there's no free lunch but it beats the 40 hour office job by a country mile.

What are Phase I clinical research trials

These trials are done by big clinics to test the effects of drugs on or off the market on healthy subjects. Normally healthy subjects will not volunteer freely as there is risk of medications having side effects and time investment can be quite long usually a few weeks or a couple months so companies will pay subjects a significant amount of money to volunteer for them.

How much money can I make?

A study will usually pay between $350 to $12,000. The highest study I've done has paid me $8,500 for 30 days. I've done a study that paid me 6 grand for taking Sudafed twice. I've been paid 4 grand to take 3 doses of adderal in another. I've been paid 1 grand for 1 day to take a colon cleanse medication. These are just a few I've been involved with. Don't expect to get paid 12 grand for a study that's shorter than 6 months, it will most likely be a very long study. There are however studies for $10,000 that last 32-40 days.

Why don't more people do this?

Honestly I think it's a combination of things, in some ways this stuff is almost unheard of it's like people know this occurs but don't give it much thought and never end up looking into it. For people who do know about it and don't act on doing studies I'd say it's a combination of fear and the fact that they probably have a job that ties their time down. The fear plays in when they consider the possible health risk factors, they estimate it to be more risky then it actually is. And then there's the stigma of being a guinea pig of being a human lab rat "Who would subject themselves to human drug testing?". All of these reasons are fine, it keeps the amount of people actually interested in making 8 grand in a month without breaking a sweat from having to compete with them for getting into studies.

Are there certain studies you avoid?

Yes! The studies I do are mostly safe(low risk) and I've never had a problem with a medication I've taken while on a study, with the exception of a diabetic medication I took that gave me diarrhea for a couple days. You want to avoid, radio label studies, cancer medications, studies involving spinal taps, schizophrenic medications(obviously), medications that treat depression or mental disorders, naltrexone(Don't do it!), antibiotic medications and there are others but you want to do your research on any medication that is involved in a study so you are fully aware of the possible side effects and risks. Individual research is an absolute must for this.

Can I do studies back to back?

Clinics will try to stop you from doing this but the short answer is yes you can, for now! You can do a study for 5 grand in one clinic and you will need to wait at least a month to do another in the same clinic, so you'll just want to screen at another facility and do another for 3-8 grand over there and then rinse and repeat.

What are some other benefits of doing studies?

1. The main benefit in my opinion isn't necessarily the money, it's the time. Yes when you do a big study you are in the facility and stuck there unless it's a study with mostly outpatient visits, but for the most part you have all the time in your hands to do with what you want. So create your online business! Run your business contacting and checking up on clients and employees via phone behind the walls of a clinic paying you $250-400 per day. Study as much as you want for whatever it is you are interested in. Your time is yours, even if it's just to play video games and watch movies. Other benefits include if you can manage it, you can reduce your gas bill and your rent if you pay month to month.

2. Then of course there is the money, 300 dollars a day is what I usually get when I do a study and you're just sitting on your bum and popping some pills.

3. You get to travel if you get serious with this. Many clinics are spread across the country so when you do a big study in say Kansas you may want to jump to Wisconsin to do another big one there. You get to see new places which can be nice.

What are some drawbacks of doing studies?

1. The food is shit and never enough. That's possibly my biggest complaint, I usually feel hungry in a study and a study can be as long as a month for me.

2. The blood draws, this isn't something that's really a problem in my opinion it's a very minor inconvenience. A study usually has 30-150 blood draws, that sounds like a lot but once you've done 5-15 blood draws in one day you'll see them as mere flea bites.

3. The fact that you're stuck in a clinic. If there was a price you'd be paying I'd say this is definitely part of it, but most clinics have pool tables, computers, phones, game rooms, TV rooms.

4. You can't workout. When you're in a study you simply can't work out at all so get all the gym time you can outside of studies.

5. You're taking medications sometimes untested medications if you decide to volunteer for those(I have) so you are taking a chance with you're health.

How do I get started?

First you need to know how to go about this correctly. You're going to need to know the clinics that you should contact that have studies and how to handle the phone screening. If you fuck up the phone screening you can be banned for life. That's just how it is. The simple answer to how you want to handle the phone screening is you are the healthiest person in the world. Allergic to peaches? Nope. Ever had a broken bone? Nope. Do you smoke? Nope. I don't care what it is, you never had it and you don't smoke/drink it. Let them disqualify you during the actual screening appointment should they find something wrong with you, and if you are actually healthy they wont find it so you will be accepted unless you do have something that shows up like a heart condition, etc.

You need to be off drugs and smoking to screen in these studies. If they catch weed in your system you're banned, period so clean yourself out. Don't drink 3 days prior to a screening appointment. Stop going to the gym 3 days before as well so your liver enzymes don't disqualify you. Eat healthy prior to a screening(and check in)

You want to get the earliest screening appointment you can for a given study. Reason being if you are the first to screen and get accepted to the study then you are the first to stay. If you end up with the last appointment for a study, expect to be a backup or dropped from the study due to them already having everyone they would need.

How much can you expect to make per year doing studies if you're serious?

If you are 100% focused and dedicated you can expect to make anywhere between 30k-40k in a year. Not bad for supplemental income.

Companies to contact

PRA: (913) 410-2900
PPD: (800) 773-2782
Covance: (866) 913-4434

These are just a few, but some of the biggest companies in the US. I'm releasing this info to you guys (about which clinics to contact) because I want forum members to benefit. I developed and just launched an app on the play store. It has more information about studies, with more suggestions, and inside knowledge. All of that information is free. The app also has a section you can subscribe to this is the section I work at very hard to notify people about upcoming studies. For this month alone I have posted over 100 studies across the United States. Almost every state has a clinic you can do studies in for good money and I list these studies. I'll notify every week on new studies coming up so you don't have to deal with the most time consuming part of studies, calling companies every hour to see if a new study popped up. Part of why I can do this is because I have gained some friends along the way who work in a select few companies they let me know which studies are going to come up before they show up anywhere, so you'll have an another advantage against other people if I can notify you in advance about a study before it comes out publicly. You may be able to get the earlier screening appointments which is crucial.

Currently I have the app on the Google play store, I'm currently working on getting the app on Apple it might take 10-20 days for that so bear with me.

Also if you subscribe to the premium part of the app it's just $19.99, a small price to pay if you can just sit back and get notified of studies ranging between $1000-$8000 every week. I'm busting my ass to get a ton of studies every week so you guys that are interested in studies can avoid that.

Here's the direct link for my app LAB RAT CASH



Also I'm trying to figure out how I can setup some review copies(free for life) 7 copies for reputable members upon request(first come first serve). I still have to figure out this coupon setup for google wallet works so the review copies end up actually being free.

If you guys have questions about studies and this way to make money I'll do my best to answer you guys so you can jump on the band wagon.

That's all for now!

Cheers

Know of any trustworthy companies to go through in California? they seem to be mainly back east.

[Villain]

I don't know if this place has been mentioned, for anybody in the UK you can also check out Quotient Clinical in Nottigham.

I've done a bunch of studies there. It's not bad overall but the food is pretty naff...

http://www.weneedyou.co.uk

[Patriarch]

(03-17-2015 09:46 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Out of curiosity, from your research or asking questions, do you have any stories of the most extreme testing? E.g. the most invasive tests or those that went the most wrong?

The main thing that will likely go wrong is that your nurses or techs are complete shit at finding a vein for blood draws. My arm veins bulge out to where I'm pretty sure I could hit them in the dark, but the last study I did (about a year ago) had me regularly getting stuck 4 or 5 times for every blood draw. Death or serious injury are extremely unlikely, but it also depends on what you're doing. You might fall out of bed during a sleep study, or you could have a fucked up immune system from taking an experimental immunosuppressant. Be smart.

[Crownife]

I've done a few in Canada, none that paid a lot though, just $50.

[Chauncey]

NASA Will Pay You $18,000 to Lay in Bed for 70 Straight Days

If you have the stamina to lie in bed for 70 days straight, NASA will pay you $18,000 — no joke.

It's actually called the "Bed Rest Studies — The Exercise Study (CFT 70)."

They say the study is "designed to minimise loss of muscle, bone and cardiovascular function through high intensity interval-type aerobic exercises on alternating days, with continuous aerobic exercise daily."

Here's the full description. They write:

This study will show how much your body, tilted down slightly with head down and feet up, for 70 days, 24-hours a day, without getting out of bed, except for limited times for specific tests, is like an astronaut’s body during the weightlessness of space flight. Watching you will help scientists learn how an astronaut’s body will change in weightlessness during space flight in the future.

During your off time you get to play on your phone, read books, skype, take online classes, or anything else you want... as long as you don't stand up. I'm pretty sure you would have to have a catheter and a solid waste collection bag, and NASA has created a special shower gurney for washing.

After the testing phase you will have another few weeks of recovery days in which the scientists study how your body adapts to being out of bed. They pay $1,200 a week for the duration of the test — usually 15 weeks.



Read more: http://uk.businessinsider.com/nasa-will-...z3XA3seoRT

Application here

[Carboneraser]

How do people find gifs so fast? I'm looking for that Simpsons clip where homer goes blind while testing an appetite suppressant -.-

I was reading and it was all looking good, but the needles would kill me. Sorry boys, guess I'm going to the oil sands

[Goldin Boy]

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I understand the hustle of pushing your paid subscription on to the people here. But do not mislead some of the naive people in here into being pawns for big pharma. You claim that doing this is better than having a job? I've done a lot of research into the practices of these clinics in the past while working in a specific project and most people the who sign up for these studies wished they could actually get a job.

You're thinking of the average person. The people on this forum aren't average.

Water seeks its own level: A low-income person with a low-income mentality is going to do things(like spending) money that will guarantee they'll be low-income forever. This girl in Michigan won the lotto and kept using her food stamps. She was later found dead of a drug overdose. Even though she had the title of millionaire(less after taxes) she couldn't escape her ghetto mentality and behaviors.

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That's right... most are ex-prisoners, and minorities from low socioeconomic status. Don't believe me? well just walk into any of these clinics from Paraxel in the John Hopkins hospital, PPD to Abbott in Chicago and then take a tour in Rikers Island and you won't see a difference.

It's their mentality, not the act of doing med trials, that makes them the dregs of society. Forum guys do it because they want, others do it becuase they think they have no choice.

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If you look closely into origin of disease in the human body you will realize that most of it originates in the liver.

This interesting. Do you have any books or data to back that up? I'd like to learn more about this. (I have high unconjugated billirubin aka jaundice but my liver function is normal).

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In short I will say that who ever signs up for this torture from big pharma will be exposed to potential problems which might not arise exactly immediately. I mean think about it? Is your liver processing all these experimental chemicals, and most of these studies tell you right in the consent about the possibility of liver damage.

Never done it(yet) but I assume the paperwork absolves them of all liabilty in the event of death/long-term illness stemming from the trial drug.

It's about taking a calculated risk. I don't anyone here is signing up just based on the pay. I'm sure we'll do our due dilligence and ask them what they trial is for before consenting.

If they offered me 10K to take an arthritis pill that contained a sarin derivative and depleted uranium I'd tell them to fuck off. Those poor people you speak of would consider it and some will do it.

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[Redacted for brevity]...But that's nothing compared to the potential health risks.

It turns out that once you look into this it's really not "the easiest money" you will ever make.

Overall you make some good points but I think you're bit too hard on this. You have to take a risk to make money, as Mark Cuban said, " No balls, no babies." You have to play it smart and not take any really dodgy drugs that's all.

This should be viewed as a hustle not a lifestyle. For me just one study could give me the money to quit my job and move to Latin America and just chill for 3 months.

[pitt]

I notice that most of studies that pay well are usually about taking vaccines or taking antibiotics, not sure why you say to avoid them, because the other studies don't really pay much (under 1000 bucks).

[Olav]

Having my doubts about the app since I DM'd and emailed op but no reply