[Enygma44]

Yo Peeps,

Long-time browser, first-time poster. Huge fan of this forum and I've done a generous amount of research on all three of these countries...although I'm sure some of my questions have been answered before so I apologize in advance.

I have 3-4 weeks to kill in April with a somewhat unlimited budget (been planning this for over a year now).

Wanted to get all of your expert opinions on if I'm choosing the right trip to take and how to maximize my experience.

(Also if you have happen to be in one of those cities in April I would love to meet up!)

Background
- 5'10'', 29 years old
- Asian-American (been in the States since I was 4)
- Slightly above-average looking...not photogenic but look better in person and I do have decent game
- Fashionable with athletic build
- Prefer skinny model types with long legs
- Want to experience laying blondes/brunettes that would otherwise be harder to game in the States
- Decent amount of discretionary spending available (can buy bottle service if it's worth it, fancy restaurants, etc.)
- First time ever traveling by myself so nervous about logistics (i.e, where to stay) as well as safety (not very street smart so am susceptible to smaller scams - i.e., paying more for taxis)
- Prefer nightgame (clubs and bars) as my game improves significantly when I am under the influence
- Am indifferent to ONS vs. First Date Lays...either one works for me as long as girls don't flake

Summary: Since I got some funds and want to experience model-looking brunettes/blondes, I have decided on Bucharest, Warsaw, and Prague.

Gaming Questions
- Are these the right countries for me? Specifically, will these cities maximize my notches with all things considered - i.e., Asian American, decent looking, fashionable and prefer upscale clubs/lounges, able to buy bottles/tables, able to take girls out on nice or even fancy dates, etc.
- Any other cities I may want to check out in the area that will also give me a high chance of success?
- I'm not very photogenic but I do have a few good ones I've taken over the years. Given these cities, would you recommend a combination of pipelining via OKC and Tinder and then club-game -> numbers -> dates -> lays?
- Are the girls there DTF for ONS? If not, how many dates on average does it take? I guess the better question are they open to sex within first 2-3 dates or are is it more taboo?
- Any other apps or social sites I can use to pipeline?
- Social proof -> does $$ speak volumes here? Meaning if I got a table or hired a bodyguard or rented a luxury car...will those pay off instantly in terms being able to bang a 9 or 10? Or is it not worth it?
- Anything else I need to be aware of to maximize my notches?

Logistical Questions
- I'm thinking of staying one week in each city...what are the areas that are safe and short walk to popular nightclubs/lounges?
- If you had 3 weeks, how would you split your time between the cities to maximize notches?
- I picked these cities as I am hoping there is a higher number of twenty-somethings that can speak English...is this a correct assumption?
- How important is it that I understand the local language and does it improve or hurt my chances in a significant matter?
- Which one of these cities generally have girls who are more interesting? I hate ditzy chicks who can't carry on a conversation...it's a huge turn-off and makes me feel like a loser even after I bang them. I would much rather be able to talk for hours with someone before and/or after the lay.

Whew!

That was quite a lot of questions. Thanks SO MUCH for reading this and any responses are greatly appreciated.

I am also willing to jump on Skype or the phone for a quick chat if anybody would be so kind.

Cheers,
Aaron

[Enygma44]

I know I'm a complete n00b to posting on here so it will be tough to get responses...but will cross my fingers for any of your advice for any of these questions :-)

[This Is Trouble]

I did Wroclaw, Poland, and Prague, CZ last year. Like you, I'm Asian-American though only 23. Same height, same financial situation. I'll chime in on my Poland experience and Prague.

- Are these the right countries for me? Specifically, will these cities maximize my notches with all things considered - i.e., Asian American, decent looking, fashionable and prefer upscale clubs/lounges, able to buy bottles/tables, able to take girls out on nice or even fancy dates, etc. Any country can be "right" for you if you put yourself to the task. I know this sounds like a poor answer but if you're good looking with game and money, you can do well anywhere in the world. These countries are no exception to this. You'll find plenty of upscale places where your money will go far.
- Any other cities I may want to check out in the area that will also give me a high chance of success?I've heard good things about Budapest.
- I'm not very photogenic but I do have a few good ones I've taken over the years. Given these cities, would you recommend a combination of pipelining via OKC and Tinder and then club-game -> numbers -> dates -> lays?I didn't pipeline last year but I wish I had. Don't get too caught up in doing pipelining dates though, you want to go out and experience the life.
- Are the girls there DTF for ONS? If not, how many dates on average does it take? I guess the better question are they open to sex within first 2-3 dates or are is it more taboo?Wroclaw, yes. Prague, yes - to ONS.
- Any other apps or social sites I can use to pipeline?
- Social proof -> does $$ speak volumes here? Meaning if I got a table or hired a bodyguard or rented a luxury car...will those pay off instantly in terms being able to bang a 9 or 10? Or is it not worth it?No idea as I rented a small apartment, and walked everywhere.
- Anything else I need to be aware of to maximize my notches?If you live in the states or in CA like me, remember that there basically is no last call. Prepare for all nighters accordingly.

- I'm thinking of staying one week in each city...what are the areas that are safe and short walk to popular nightclubs/lounges?I stayed in Prague 1 and I might have ventured off to locals areas if I had more time. It was very safe. I'd never stay less than a week in any place.
- If you had 3 weeks, how would you split your time between the cities to maximize notches?Depends when you're flying in. If you only have a week, try to get your weekend in at the beginning so you can have the following week to follow up on leads. But don't let this prevent you pushing for the ONS.
- I picked these cities as I am hoping there is a higher number of twenty-somethings that can speak English...is this a correct assumption?Yes.
- How important is it that I understand the local language and does it improve or hurt my chances in a significant matter?Learn a few basic words at a minimum.
- Which one of these cities generally have girls who are more interesting? I hate ditzy chicks who can't carry on a conversation...it's a huge turn-off and makes me feel like a loser even after I bang them. I would much rather be able to talk for hours with someone before and/or after the lay.Poland was better than Prague, I found Prague to be touristy. Your mileage may vary.

[samsamsam]

(02-23-2015 06:50 PM)Enygma44 Wrote:  

Meaning if I got a table or hired a bodyguard or rented a luxury car...will those pay off instantly in terms being able to bang a 9 or 10? Or is it not worth it?

I'm really not trying to be a dick, really I'm not. But the fact that you considered hiring a bodyguard concerns me about how you view the world and what you think will happen during your trip. What I mean is, I think most guys would feel like a tool having someone shadow them. Seems like you are trying to heavily compensate for something.

I'd suggest staying in one or 2 places and spending more time in each. You'll have a better chance, and a more in depth experience. I think moving around constantly has some transaction costs and lost time for travel and establishing connections.

Some questions can only be answered by you, each person has a different experience, different perspective. If you can be a baller enough to rent a fancy car and hire a bodyguard you can afford go back again a second and third time. It doesn't have to be perfect the first time you go. I think some of the analytical types (not saying you are one of these) try so hard to squeeze every bit out of a trip that they don't take the time to just sit in the Rynek in Wroclaw and just take in the sights and sounds. Sometimes there is satisfaction and joy for discovering some things on your own without prepping.

I hope you end up sharing what your experience is like and not just one of those ask for help and not give help sort of guys that pop up from time to time.

Edit: Remember your vibe will be important, not saying you will do this, but you don't want to give a wimpy or desperate vibe. Girls pick up on that. I am only saying this because you do seem clearly dedicated to having all the details hammered out, it might be considered slightly desperate. And I don't want you to shoot yourself in the foot with that vibe when you get there. If you are cool with just dropping big bucks then go ahead but you fall into a role that is hard to get out of. I'm really trying to help, I am emphasizing this because sometimes when people hear things they don't like they shut down and ignore what could be helpful advice.

[Orson]

Like samsamsam said, fewer places! Concentrate on two cities, not three. And like TroubleMaker said.

"If you had 3 weeks, how would you split your time between the cities to maximize notches?" Prague is beautiful but filled with tourists - less so in April (still early spring).

If I were you, I'd max those notches by dropping into Brno - Czech Republic's most intensely university covered town - instead of Prague. Since you're willing to spend, if you get lucky, there's a train to Vienna every hour (and takes less than two hours, if I recall correctly). That would be boffo play-time dating fun! And since Brno is not just a uni town, but also more industrial than cultural (like Prague), a fun escape for everyone );

And about Warsaw? Maybe it's too big for 7 to 10 days to get those notches! Because it's too spread out for profitable trolling, the kind where people bump into each other, breaking down social proof barriers. How about Poznan or charming Wroclaw instead? Or even Krakow (in pre-tourist season, after all)?!

Brno and Wroclaw makes frugal transit time sense. Prague is on the way, if you're unlucky or bored and want to check it out (I almost wrote 'czech!').

In other respects, I think TroubleMaker has sound advice. I'll only add, HAVE FUN!

[Enygma44]

Thanks guy I really appreciate the advice here! It sounds like most of you guys recommend Wroclaw vs. Warsaw in Poland...any particular reason? I'm probably moving back to my travel dates to beginning of May so hopefully Prague will still be a great time despite it's reputation for being a tourist hub.

I'll be sure to post a detailed report after my travels - very excited about my first adventure!

Cheers,
Aaro

[Aaron-]

I have been to Warsaw twice for 3 days, absolutely loved it and got laid both times. Not sure why this forum has a tendency to shy away from Warsaw - it'a a great city in my opinion.

Then again, i have never been to any other EE city yet, so i cannot make any comparison.

[Buddydowrongright]

(02-25-2015 10:03 PM)Enygma44 Wrote:  

Thanks guy I really appreciate the advice here! It sounds like most of you guys recommend Wroclaw vs. Warsaw in Poland...any particular reason? I'm probably moving back to my travel dates to beginning of May so hopefully Prague will still be a great time despite it's reputation for being a tourist hub.

I'll be sure to post a detailed report after my travels - very excited about my first adventure!

Cheers,
Aaro

Hey brother. I know some folks on this forum don't like Krakow, and for good reasons - in the shoulders and high season, it is overrun with tourists, specifically British stag parties who will ruin any otherwise decent city - but, in my view you really should not visit Poland without visiting it. It's the city of Polish kings and in my opinion the most beautiful city in Europe. It also has some of the prettiest girls I've seen. I say this after visiting 20+ countries. I should include a caveat that I have not been to Ukraine, Russia, or the Baltics, where guys say girls are generally a step above Poland.

Still, the girls here are knockouts, and it's a university city with something like 100,000+ students, so there are A LOT of targets. I've gotten laid more here in one year of living, and with hotter girls, than in the previous 27 years of my life combined.

Krakow used to be the capitol of Poland, and unlike Warsaw, it wasn't razed to the ground in World War II. Hitler wanted it to be the capitol of his Empire so he kept it pretty much intact. It's got one of the coolest old towns you will find and there are more goddamned clubs and bars here than even the locals can keep track of. I've been to both Wroclaw and Poznan and they are both nice cities - I'd live in either one of them in the heartbeat. But that is mostly because they remind me of smaller versions of Krakow.

I should note, though, that most of my Polish notches came from Tinder. I had a few who weren't, and they were much hotter - one ended up being my girlfriend for a while. But it is true that girls here have foreigner fatigue due to all the Spanish, Italians and Brits who hit on them through Erasmus (or RVF ). Probably easier to game in Poznan or Wroclaw but I have no idea. I've been successful here and it's a fun place to be.

PM me if you end up coming here

[Espresso]

OP: since this is your first trip travelling solo, I suggest you keep your expectations in check or you might end up disappointed. With all this talk of laying "skinny model types with long legs" and "maximizing your notches"...How easy do you think it is over there?? If you are not getting those types of girls in the States, don't be surprised if you strike out in Europe. Do you really think that driving a luxury car in central Europe will make a 10 jump on your dick? She has seen it all before, and wasn't impressed the last time round either.

I'm not saying this to discourage you, but unless you are seriously understating your game, you might be setting yourself up for a major disappointment if you set your expectations sky high. Which would affect your game, and start a downward spiral.

You also seem to be overly concerned with safety. The places you mentioned are probably safer than wherever in the States you are from.

Also - you say you are not very photogenic but have a few good pictures over the years. My advice is to hire a pro photographer to take some shots to pipeline with, as per the recent online pictures thread. With your budget, the cost wouldn't be an issue.

Europe is great, enjoy it...and dare I say not only in chasing girls. Have fun and report back. Good luck.

[ElJefe1]

Warsaw definitely shouldnt get the bad wrap it does on the Forum, my one trip there was a good time. I banged a couple of girls while there and a third came to visit me in Budapest a bout a week later. I only spent a 5-6 days there and had good results so dont let anyone discourage you as if Warsaw isnt a good place to game. If I were you I'd pick one city maybe two, becuase three weeks just isnt enough.... You may want to seriously consider Budapest if you are looking to party, its great for night game and clubs go until the morning hours there. I dont know who you've been talking to but the body guard, and luxuary car thing seems like you are a bit confused about what you are getting yourself into I'd scratch those plans now but if you think it will help you.... The cities you named all have great public transportation, and people use it unlike the states where you have to have a car. What kind of luck do you have here in the states are you regularly pulling 10s tall and long legs?

[Aaron-]

Rule of thumb:

If you have no game, you won't make it in either the US or EE.
If you have mediocre game, you might find it a bit easier in EE than in the US. I reiterate - a bit. You're not going to pull 10s in EEif the best you can get in the US is a 6-7.
If you have great game, you should make it both in the US and EE.

Summarized, the only (slight) difference is if you have mediocre game and want to get laid with 7s instead of 6s.

Money can increase your chances in EE, just as it does in the US, if executed properly. Otherwise, it can backfire tremendously and will even lower your chances. Given your questions about bodyguards and luxury cars, I'd be very careful playing this card.

[Cr33pin]

You can hire me as a bodyguard/wing... for the right price I will rub your feet at night..... with both hands.

You're welcome

ninja edit: BOOM 3000th post

[Enygma44]

Haha thanks guys I appreciate the honest and helpful advice! Yeah the bodyguard and luxury car statement was a bit exaggerated...being that it's my first time in Europe I didn't know if those things really made a significant difference. Judging by everyone's reaction it won't do much more than it would here in the States and being that I already drive an exotic car here, I am still struggling with pulling 9s or even 8s :-(

Great advice on the pro photographer. I'm going to get that lined up ASAP as that will help with Tinder and online dating anywhere.

Looks like Wroclaw, Prague, and Budapest are the top choices. Going to do some more research and figure out my travel plans. At this point it will be mid-to-late April.

I'll let everyone know how it goes and will definitely reach out to those of you in the area if you want to meet up :-)

Cheers,
Aaron