All my lays came from 1st date bang, something similar to the one written by Tuth, but I always kiss the girl before venue changing home.
Works for me so far, but recent strike outs showed me that I didn't have a plan B when she declined to come back home. Usually I either insist, or eject. Most of the time I don't see the girl again.
Which leads me to the question, should I counter-offer by suggesting a different venue change other than my crib? Another bar, some snack place, etc.
Her: sorry I don't want to come back to your place, I'm not comfortable/I have class early tomorrow/blabla
Me: Ok no problem, but I'm hungry, let's go grab a bite, I know an awesome place.
The idea is that, if the offer to venue-change home fails, it's really awkward and beta to keep staying there at the same venue. Since we always give a reason to venue change, by staying there after she declined you are both failling into her frame and invalidating yourself at the same time.
The second thing is that, a casual counter-offer like above should get you some more time to game her, and maybe try again. Or it could just give you more time to build comfort/attraction and then try again on another date.
Is it worth it? Or should I just cut my loss and move on?
Works for me so far, but recent strike outs showed me that I didn't have a plan B when she declined to come back home. Usually I either insist, or eject. Most of the time I don't see the girl again.
Which leads me to the question, should I counter-offer by suggesting a different venue change other than my crib? Another bar, some snack place, etc.
Her: sorry I don't want to come back to your place, I'm not comfortable/I have class early tomorrow/blabla
Me: Ok no problem, but I'm hungry, let's go grab a bite, I know an awesome place.
The idea is that, if the offer to venue-change home fails, it's really awkward and beta to keep staying there at the same venue. Since we always give a reason to venue change, by staying there after she declined you are both failling into her frame and invalidating yourself at the same time.
The second thing is that, a casual counter-offer like above should get you some more time to game her, and maybe try again. Or it could just give you more time to build comfort/attraction and then try again on another date.
Is it worth it? Or should I just cut my loss and move on?
Ass or cash, nobody rides for free - WestIndiArchie