[jariel]

This all stems from an article that one of their bloggers wrote entitled "Why Men Should Care About Everyday Sexism", and then subsequent conversations the blogger had on twitter with readers regarding the article.

Slate calls this recent development, "good news".

Quote:

Men's magazines have long been home to some of the most sexist attitudes about women. But a recent exchange between men's magazine writer Tauriq Moosa and the South African edition of Men's Health magazine suggests a bit of good news.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/201...tists.html

[Grange]

Being that 50% of female behavior is manipulation, they might want to retract that soon.

[EuphoricWizard]

These people subtly insult women by suggesting that they can easily be "manipulated" into spreading their legs. They really don't give them enough credit. It's not like guys go up to women say a canned line and do some magic trick and they're balls deep hours later.

[jayyrod1]

^^ with game though it is like that.

[Disco_Volante]

This magazine assumes women have the same amount of rationality and reasonableness men do, and that women are just looking to date a decent guy not a 'sleezy' player.

Ergo, if you revert to 'hey youre pretty! would you like to have dinner with me?'

You'll just be crawling in pussy, as these respectable, rational women will appreciate your nice gestures. The obnoxious player types will be left in the cold, as your gentlemanly ways will garner you the top women.


What a bunch of fucking retards. Especially from a magazine where guys obsess over their muscle tone in a gym so they can get pussy.

Most everything women say and do is fake, as they only care about social context and status. There is no 'truth' with women, it is all relative in their head to maintain social harmony while giving themselves advantages and dodging responsibility. God forbid a man improves his social skills around women.

[Menace]

Oh please. When women will step out of the house without doing hair, makeup, spanx, push up bras, then you can talk to me about no "manipulation." But this is all part and parcel of a female-centric world view. What women do is by definition ok and normalized, but men better not dare try and say or do anything that might improve their chances. Maximizing female sexual options and minimizing male options is what this is all about. Women are strong and independent yet lack agency and are easily manipulated. It truly is Orwellian 1984-style thinking: having two diametrically opposed ideas in your head at the same time and believing both can be true.

[SlickyBoy]

Selective disclosure of the facts about yourself is per se manipulation, and something all people do to some extent the minute they interact with a transaction. And every situation with another person is a transaction of sorts - someone buys and someone sells. What does this mangina expect men to do?surrender their bargaining power?

Apparently the SJWs and white knights have breached the perimeter of Men's Health.

[Michael P]

The P.C. commercial retards don't know the difference between manipulation and influence.

Manipulation – only one party has to gain
Influence – both parties have gains
There is nothing bad about a man acting in X/Y/G way, and the result is that the woman desires even more the company of the man. That means she is happy around him.

But being a a former trainer I can say that even from a Strength and Conditioning point of view they are betas.
Were as their articles about male attitude, mentality and such are for Omega males. They are saying this to not scare away the omegas who would not want to infuriate the random woman that passes by and sees him reading it:
“Dear LORD oh mighty ! You are reading that PUA magazine! RAPIST!”

[TravelerKai]

This is good news and bad news. Good because we want to be the tone setters for what real masculinity is and how to go about it. Men are turning to the Manosphere in droves. Why? Because we have real solutions that work. GQ and Men's health cannot avoid the PC atmosphere because they are owned by the same people anyway. The literal difference between them being full blown SJW and not is just one editor. Replace that person, everything changes.

It's bad news for obvious reasons, but that is nothing new, we see turncoats every month more or less. That's fine by me. One less player to compete with in the marketplace for issues that concern men. They can have the grass eating blue pillers if that is what they want.

[CJ_W]

(01-28-2015 03:38 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

This is good news and bad news. Good because we want to be the tone setters for what real masculinity is and how to go about it. Men are turning to the Manosphere in droves. Why? Because we have real solutions that work. GQ and Men's health cannot avoid the PC atmosphere because they are owned by the same people anyway. The literal difference between them being full blown SJW and not is just one editor. Replace that person, everything changes.

It's bad news for obvious reasons, but that is nothing new, we see turncoats every month more or less. That's fine by me. One less player to compete with in the marketplace for issues that concern men. They can have the grass eating blue pillers if that is what they want.

This.


Game is Game is Game. it doesn't matter if you are aware of it or not. either you're IN the game, or you're just At the game watching from the nosebleed seats, there is no "not playing the game" as some people believe, dating political correctness only goes so far, as it goes against nature itself for the most part.

Its like trying to damn up a river using clay bricks, eventually that dam's going to burst, or at least have enough trickles that the river becomes whole again...

its going to be an intresting few years, as you'll be seeing a lot of this anti dating/anti men pc stuff fall away and the furiously futile attempt to stem the flow.

[Lord_Perseus]

Who reads Men's Health other than faggots anyway? All socially acceptable magazines which are allegedly for men are blue pill as fuck & completely subservient to the Feminine Imperative. If anyone is an expert at manipulation is the types that work for these rags that try to trick men into thinking they're on their side when they're anything but.

[delicioustacos]

Sad news for my 15th favorite publication to read during an emergency shit at the gym. At least their covers can keep giving young boys body dysmorphia.

[heavy]

"Manipulation is not fine."

Manipulation according to Websters: "to use or change (numbers, information, etc.) in a skillful way or for a particular purpose"

Meaning the all four of the following are not ok:
"Using information in a skillful way (gaming) is not fine,
...changing information in a skillful way (gaming) is not fine,
...using information for a particular purpose (relationship) is not fine, and
...changing information for a particular purpose (relationship) is not fine"

So we can't use information for the purpose of developing a relationship?

The point is, they're morons. We're all manipulating, or at least trying to, all the time.

[TheWastelander]

Men's Health: Remain A Sucker and Keep Buying Our Rag

[DJ-Matt]

I see "ZA" everywhere so keep in mind this is in south Africa, not the US.

[Michael P]

(01-28-2015 03:47 PM)Lord_Perseus Wrote:  

Who reads Men's Health other than faggots anyway? .....

11 years ago I started reading it. 10 years ago I quit.
At that time I lived in a East European country. This matters because they did a "WONDERFUL" thing.

I read the magazine cover to cover, so I could observe all articles. In the first issue they were quite masculine. By number 12, they were betas. Nowadays I see the cover and Omega is a step up for them.

They knew they were coming on a market that is not YET brainwashed with feminism and "eased in". So this is a change for MARKETING reasons again. They go for the lowest common denominator.

Sad.
Men's Health is woman orientated.
Sad.

[Kabal]

If women are so easily manipulated, what does that say about them?

[alexdagr81]

(01-28-2015 03:10 PM)EuphoricWizard Wrote:  

These people subtly insult women by suggesting that they can easily be "manipulated" into spreading their legs. They really don't give them enough credit. It's not like guys go up to women say a canned line and do some magic trick and they're balls deep hours later.

Fun fact, feminism doesn't mind insulting women if it fits their agenda. See their beliefs on "rape culture"

[germanico]

(01-28-2015 03:50 PM)delicioustacos Wrote:  

At least their covers can keep giving young boys body dysmorphia.

At least their covers can keep giving young fags an excuse to leave their stroke mags out in the open.

Mens Health is a gay magazine. Respond accordingly.

[Easy_C]

This is coming from a publication that, according to those same researchers, talks about women in a way that is indistinguishable from how convicted rapists talk about women?

[Shortest Straw]

I'm gay as hell and I jerk off to Men's Health all the time.

C'mon, why does anyone give the slightest shit what those guys say?

I get all the men's health information I need from WebMD, bodybuilding.com, and Wikipedia. At one point I subscribed to Details, but it bothered me. There is something effeminate about men's vanity magazines. Even Outside seems fruity. It's effeminate to pay that much attention to gear. It reminds me of women that can't go for an hour long hike without bringing a water bottle, a phone, sunscreen, a snake bite kit, signal flares ... jesus, just go on the fucking hike already.

The only reason it is interesting is because it illustrates how low status males act. They resemble females, obsessing over hair products and skin care. They sympathize with women, partly because they are trying to curry favor, and partly because they honestly do empathize.

Every time a man says, don't be a pickup artist, he's saying he is an omega male sniveling at the sexually successful males above him in the hierarchy. I guarantee you they are bearded hipsters in oversized clothes mumbling "smash teh patriarchy" while they sip their soy lattes.

[Easy_C]

I say don't be a pickup artist. Be a player instead.

[Atlanta Man]

Just like porn mags Men's Health is out done by free material online. Hustler is to Porn Hub what Men's Health is to Bodybuilders.com.

[Bushido]

Do any straight men actually read Men's Health?

Every issue is the same and 90% of their articles are stealthy advertisements for supplements.

Their lifting advice is bullshit. As if anyone is going to listen to them when it comes to dating advice.

[T and A Man]

Mens health is the epitomy of beta.

it sits in shelves of supermarket check outs besides Cleo, women's day, etc.

its impulse message isnt to real men, but the dame useless women who read the above fem magazines, sold by article headlines on the cover who think"ohh yeah, he really needs to read this"

its blue pill because its applied through a fem centric lens to sell