[Foolsgo1d]

Holograms with todays technology? Please!

Boot up a top end PC with the latest software for rendering graphics and I guarantee it will take a while to render complex architectural drawings.

Those goggles will be rendered like those traditional 3D gaming goggles we have now, just with the Microsoft Corp logo to bump the price up.

Hologram technology is coming but there needs to be significant improvements with CPU, GPU and data processing and display ability for it to occur. It takes a lot of energy to display on a HD monitor as it is, displaying the same quality out of nowhere with the use of lights and lenses is far off.

[Shemar]

Here is a live demonstration of it.

[The Father]

(01-23-2015 11:36 AM)Menace Wrote:  

This is cool but further moves us from reality. Soon people will use this for porn and for relationships. Holographic orgies and blowjobs.

Why talk to someone when you can have the ideal woman magically appear there? I used to be really pro this type of stuff, but have become all too cognizant of the negative effects of virtualizing human interaction.

Those are reasonable concerns. But perhaps there is a positive angle, too? What about all the lonely elderly people who never get out...virtual friends may be better than no friends at all.

Also, perhaps it will inspire people, especially WOMEN, to be more reasonable. Somehow, we have created a culture in the west where women think they can be fat, obnoxious, devoid of femininity, devoid of traditional skills like cooking & being pleasant...and STILL think they can demand top dollar because "I've got the vagina so I make the rules". It's ludicrous, of course, because pussy is a commodity and it has NEVER been cheaper. You think oil is cheap now? They are literally GIVING pussy away! In your grandfathers era (and for 2,000 years before), men had to commit to paying a woman's way for the rest of her life, just to get some boring missionary sex. Now, we have hotties who want to demonstrate their bedroom skills available at the swipe of a Tinder. Pussy has never been cheaper but it STILL hasn't changed the attitude of the average entitled western c*nt.

Why? Simple. Women don't see any competition, any "substitutable goods" to put it in economic terms. The fleshlight? Meh. Internet porn? Not the same. But maybe virtual women (holographs, sexbots, etc) will stoke women's competitive juices in a way that will get them to change behavior.

After all, what do women hate the most? What ENRAGES them? A younger, tighter, hotter woman competing with them! Well, that's what this is - a hotter, sweeter woman who will never age. And the beauty is, it doesn't work the other way around! The average woman might enjoy her holographic Brad Pitt sex, but what she really wants is to be led by an Alpha male, and preferably one that will PAY HER BILLS. FATHER HER KIDS. No substitute for that. But your average guy just wants a sweet companion who can cook and who will yank his crank on a regular basis. So what if she's a Stepford Wife.

Women may react to their new, hotter, more pleasant virtual competition by becoming BETTER WOMEN themselves. What women USED to be. And that's a good thing!

[billbudsocket]

delete

[Shemar]

(01-24-2015 12:28 PM)billbudsocket Wrote:  

This is a canned demo.

I consider this vapor ware until they make a useable API that 3rd parties can easily use.

The guy doing the demo was claiming the sensors in the device were processing terabytes of input data. Total BS. All that thing is using for sensors is probably just IR sensors for depth perception, image sensors, a gyroscope and a microphone.

This demo could be made by some CS students as project using OpenCV. The "holograms" are just a wireframe overlay of detected objects. MS does 3d printing in their MS Garages yes, but from pre-made open source models, not made on the fly like they implied in this demo. All the parts for the quadrocopter already existed in their individual parts files, they just showed this chick point and click the parts in place and then put some color on them, that is it.

Well, you can't prove that it is not processing terabytes of data, so until we get more information from the engineers that worked on it, the burden of proof is upon you.

Anyways, I just thought the video was cool; it shows how much we're advancing technologically as a civilization. This is stuff that you see only in science fiction movies and now we're actually getting closer to it making it a reality. But I didn't expect it to be met with so much backlash.

[speakeasy]

Who wants to walk around everywhere with headgear on. I'll pass. I hope this never comes to pass. If you think bitches are bad with their smartphones now.

[player]

(01-24-2015 12:06 PM)The Father Wrote:  

Women may react to their new, hotter, more pleasant virtual competition by becoming BETTER WOMEN themselves. What women USED to be. And that's a good thing!

Or they'll react with their usual shaming tactics and demonization of natural male desires for young, healthy, fertile pussy, and try to ban virtual competition because it's SEXIST! MISOGYNIST! OBJECTIFIES WOMEN!

[LeBeau]

I think it's misleading to immediately think of technology as being good or bad.

Humans make decisions about how they want to use technology, and that's what ultimately creates the positives and negatives.

We can talk about social media being negative, but the RVF is a perfect example of a group that has chosen NOT to let social media run their lives, only use it when they see fit.

Even when people trot out examples like the atomic bomb, well, that led to a lot of great research that has saved lives and given us new forms of energy.

[Tex Pro]

Porn would be awesome with this thing.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

This thread is useless without a cold fusion reactor

[iknowexactly]

When phones were invented it was a luxury, now you can't get a job without one.
When Facewhore was invented it was a game, now Western chicks think you're weird without it.

All this stuff gets between people and become a necessity. However it does have SOME useful side and you can't stop it completely. For instance, a dermatologist could examine remotely some disease the local docs can't diagnose.

But you should be aware of how it creeps into your life,

"The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus."

How may fewer hours of fucking, of riding a bicycle out in the mountains, will owning one of those sets of glasses lead to?

Also those glasses-- we're getting closer and closer to universal implants and that's pretty gross.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

This is actually augmented reality, not holograms. This is projecting synthetic content into the real world, using see through goggles. I've worked on this. They are making tremendous progress, but there still are significant problems.

First, the resolution of the goggles is not very high. Even when you get into $20,000+ headsets used in military simulators, just doing standard HD for each eye is difficult. If you are rendering a virtual TV screen on the wall, then that image will only be a few hundred pixels wide in the see through display, and will have low quality resolution. Furthermore, the virtual content is not bright enough for use in brightly lit settings, and the field of view is limited.

Another problem is that virtual objects should be blocked from view by real physical objects. If you have a virtual slut walk in the room, and she walks on the other side of the coffee table, her feet should be blocked from view. This takes some kind of 3D sensor, like a Kinect. However, once again, these don't have very good resolution or accuracy. The virtual slut's feet might peek through the coffee table in spots where the Kinect doesn't read the shape of the coffee table correctly, and the edges of her virtual legs will be fuzzy where they go behind the table, not sharp. Plus, now you have a Kinect mounted to your head, in addition to the see through head mounted display.

A third issue is latency. When you turn your head, the synthetic content in the head mounted display will move with your head, instead of staying fixed in the room. The head tracker (more equipment) will measure your head movement and update the synthetic content, but it will lag, so the synthetic content will seem to shift around in the room instead of being fixed, the way it appears in the video.

This technology is progressing, but there need to be a couple more generations of product advancements before the vision in the video is achieved. I do think this is quite likely to be literally real, in about 15 years.

[unhommefou]

Demo presented today from E3 using the game Minecraft:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yg6ljnASxw

[cibo]

(01-24-2015 01:05 PM)Shemar Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 12:28 PM)billbudsocket Wrote:  

This is a canned demo.

I consider this vapor ware until they make a useable API that 3rd parties can easily use.

The guy doing the demo was claiming the sensors in the device were processing terabytes of input data. Total BS. All that thing is using for sensors is probably just IR sensors for depth perception, image sensors, a gyroscope and a microphone.

This demo could be made by some CS students as project using OpenCV. The "holograms" are just a wireframe overlay of detected objects. MS does 3d printing in their MS Garages yes, but from pre-made open source models, not made on the fly like they implied in this demo. All the parts for the quadrocopter already existed in their individual parts files, they just showed this chick point and click the parts in place and then put some color on them, that is it.

Well, you can't prove that it is not processing terabytes of data, so until we get more information from the engineers that worked on it, the burden of proof is upon you.

Every unique search phrase that has been used in google, which totals 2.4 billion words, is still only 248 GB's (though likely compressed).

Twitter pumps out 7k-8k tweets per a second which is about 30MB/s-40MB/S that totals around 2TB-3TB per day.

A regular SQL database server starts capping out at around 10TB-15TB and begins needing distributed computer cluster storage methods.

I highly highly doubt it's working with terabytes of data.

And the girl is annoying in that e3 video and I'm still calling bullshit until I see some floor demos that people can use.

[Captainstabbin]

This isn't a hologram, it's standard 3D overlay on transparent screens. Neat, but notice their demo is on a table, nothing like the immersive world claimed in the original video.

I'd like to be able to project a virtual TV screen on any wall, or do real-time sculpting of 3D characters and CAD models (like Stark designing the Ironman armor), or even play an immersive game (similar to Oculus Rift except outside, using my neighborhood as the battlefield) - but this looks like the retarded cousin of the version promised in the original video.

Maybe some day I can run with this and see naked broads all around me or make the inside of my house look like a forest or even weird stuff like ghosts haunting my house...but we aren't close yet.

Remember when Microsoft promised something similar with the Xbox One?

First is was IllumiRoom, then RoomAlive

[Samseau]

(01-24-2015 05:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Who wants to walk around everywhere with headgear on. I'll pass. I hope this never comes to pass. If you think bitches are bad with their smartphones now.

Most girls don't like video games; do you really think they'll be into this shit?

I think they'll be more likely to watch movies with these goggles more than anything.