[Duke Castile]

I was never huge into "Wrestling".

As a kid growing up it was something I only got to see when I was over at a friend's house.

I briefly considered it a guilty pleasure when I was in my early 20s with characters like The Rock.

By this time I would see Flair come out, unathletic, saggy tits, with hot dog skin.

I hated watching him and also didn't really care much for his antics of being a badass when he looked like he was about to die.

Years later after a little uncomfortable red pill indoctrination I came across this quote: You can't be first but you can be next.

And "To be the man you gotta beat the man".

I had forgotten about all this until I clicked on this video the other day and it just tickled me to death.

A young Rick Flair being a goddamn badass.

[TheWastelander]

The guy is a hell of a showman and hilarious, in my opinion.

[Saweeep]

woooooooo

[Aliblahba]

Wrestling is fake.

[TravelerKai]

Right on Fisto! Growing up I was a big Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Goldberg, and Razor Ramon fan and I hated Flair but as I have gotten older and more red pill, I found that I love me some Ric Flair. He had alot of the same masculine frame we preach around in the Manosphere.

[TheWastelander]

(01-19-2015 04:13 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Right on Fisto! Growing up I was a big Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, and Razor Ramon fan and I hated Flair but as I have gotten older and more red pill, I found that I love me some Ric Flair. He had alot of the same masculine frame we preach around in the Manosphere.

When I was a kid my friends and I used to wrestle all the time. Razor Ramon, Undertaker, and The Hitman Bret Hart were my favorites.

Later on Steve Austin was my favorite, but around 2001 I stopped watching.

Just the other day I came across that Youtube video I posted above, gave it a watch and started laughing my ass off. I didn't find Flair funny when I was a kid, but looking back he was pretty awesome.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Dope. He also has a 'Hood Pass'

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/08/25-.../ric-flair

http://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comm...ric_flair/

[Haig]

I've just been re-watching old WCW Nitro's on the WWE network and Flair is killing it in and outside of the ring.

He was a real pussy hound back in the day and hat many a ring rat waiting for the chance to ride on space mountain.

[TravelerKai]

Damn how could I forget about Brett! I liked him but did not like Owen until he died. The Rock was almost everyone's favorite. He just talked sooo much trash! You never knew what he was going to say next.

[Haig]

Bret was one of the best technical wrestlers I've watched. He very rarely missed a spot.

Flair was an excellent wrestler and knew how to play the crowd/opponent perfectly.

Even though he was a heel, the crowd still loved him.

[Travesty]

I thought Will Ferrell was really creative with making this character...

Nope he stole it.

[Drazen]

The old suit-wearing 4 Horsemen was just an awesome stable. Riding around in limos, flashing cash, wearing suits and surrounded by women. Then going in the ring and beating ass.

[Drazen]

One of the greatest moments in history:

Also a fan of his delayed flops. Just too funny.

[Haig]

the 4 horsemen were amazing. I don't know if any of them have written an autobiography but that would be an interesting read.

[R Smoov]

Ric Flair was the shit young age and old.

You gotta respect him for being the old dude who still talks and thinks like he's 20.

[Haig]

just found out that Flair is touring where I'm from in May....the possibility of meeting the legend is tempting.

[whoishe]

Flair was indeed amazing. If only he would write his autobiography "To be the man" in not such a watered down version, him partying in NWA years in North Caroline area had to be legendary. Both Mick Foley books are unbeatable in this case.

Flair even when he was almost 50 could produce a decent match against really unskilled opponent. And his speeches were legendary (too bad not much material is available online), but you can watch WCW Monday Nitro from 1997-1999 on Youtube.

But I think I've liked Roddy Piper even more.

[JoyStick]

Ric Flair's wrestling persona is awesome.

But Ric Flair the person made millions, but is in his 60s and broke. He spends his money on gold diggers and a lavish lifestyle he can't afford trying to show how awesome he is. That's why he still have to work in his golden age, while his peers like Roddy Piper and Mitch Foley don't.

He is also well known to be a brown noser, a back stabber, a pussy and got to the top because of back stage politics.

[whoishe]

Of course I agree that Flair personal life after 2000 was a mess. But at least he got to his 60's alive and in relatively good health, which on its own is a big achievement in wrestling among top players from 80's.

(01-19-2015 05:11 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

He is also well known to be a brown noser, a back stabber, a pussy and got to the top because of back stage politics.

But this is interesting and I'm not sure I agree. Among guys who made it big in 80's and 90's I would say he was the most likeable guy backstage, the most willing to look opponent good in matches and ready to lose to them in fashion which was good for business. Guys like Hogan, Warrior, Shawn Michaels were really uncooperative, even if Michaels was amazing wrestler too.

Compare it to Hogan and his backstage politics before WCW Starcade 1997, which ultimately was beginning of the end for them.

[JoyStick]

(01-19-2015 05:17 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

Of course I agree that Flair personal life after 2000 was a mess.

(01-19-2015 05:11 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

He is also well known to be a brown noser, a back stabber, a pussy and got to the top because of back stage politics.

But this is interesting and I'm not sure I agree. Among guys who made it big in 80's and 90's I would say he was the most likeable guy, the most willing to look opponent good in matches and ready to lose to them in fashion which was good to business. Guys like Hogan, Warrior, Shawn Michaels were really uncooperative, even if Michaels was amazing wrestler too.

Compare it to Hogan and his backstage politics before WCW Starcade 1997, which ultimately was beginning of the end for them.

I don't have time to look them up right now but Mitch Foley, Shane Douglas, and Scott Steiner have all criticize his backstage politics.

[JustlookingForAGoodTime]

Promo gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9enMPQtsdA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To7061dWIgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuH7FC3R_mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoUvE8-GPoE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmnyNMaWDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpzOyc47nms

[Brosemite]

Ric Flair & Sergio Brown of the Colts connection -

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=1218801...tscenterFB

[whoishe]

(01-19-2015 05:32 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 05:17 PM)whoishe Wrote:  

Of course I agree that Flair personal life after 2000 was a mess.

(01-19-2015 05:11 PM)JoyStick Wrote:  

He is also well known to be a brown noser, a back stabber, a pussy and got to the top because of back stage politics.

But this is interesting and I'm not sure I agree. Among guys who made it big in 80's and 90's I would say he was the most likeable guy, the most willing to look opponent good in matches and ready to lose to them in fashion which was good to business. Guys like Hogan, Warrior, Shawn Michaels were really uncooperative, even if Michaels was amazing wrestler too.

Compare it to Hogan and his backstage politics before WCW Starcade 1997, which ultimately was beginning of the end for them.

I don't have time to look them up right now but Mitch Foley, Shane Douglas, and Scott Steiner have all criticize his backstage politics.

I read Foley biographies, so I know about his complaints. I wouldn't trust a word from Douglas or Steiner though.

I am not saying Flair was a saint, I'm just saying that wrestling is similar to politics - basically all top wrestlers had to get their hands dirty to go to the top (maybe except Goldberg, as his push to the stardom was instant). Considering all the names who were at the top I consider Flair one of the better guys among them.

You can find dirt on Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker too, but it's names like HHH, Michaels, Hogan. Warrior who were considered the worst of them by wrestling insiders.

[Impulse]

Glad to see a Pro-Wrestling thread on the forum.

I've been watching since I was four; in the 'Ruthless Aggression Era'. Grew up with hard-hitting guys like Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar.
Majority of the guys active in the early 00s, except Austin, were your traditional 'Wrestling Character'.

Fortunately, a few years back I discovered Ultimate Warrior's Youtube channel. The guy is a powerhouse of masculinity. From his unapologetic inspirational speeches and menacing tonality, the guy is an icon. Guy inspired me to get into Pro-Wrestling Training.

Ric Flair is a badass. Jim Ross (wrestling commentator) actually tells a story during his One-Man Show in New York about a time when he'd party with Flair. Ric could control a whole room.

Quote:

“You’d walk into a hotel bar with about 30-40 strangers in it, and Ric would just walk up to the bar and order 100 kamikazes, take them around to all the tables, do the Flair strut and the woooooooo’s,”

“Obviously, most of the people knew him, but he didn’t know them. He’d buy kamikazes for the whole bar and watch them all get hammered. It would cause an Animal House-like environment where all these strangers would be hugging each other. You’ve got insurance salesman woooo’ing, women swooning, music would come on, and he’d start dancing with everybody’s wives, having a great time. That was not an unusual night”

Sadly his lavish lifestyle is catching up with him. He's fallen on hard times money-wise and his son's death couldn't have helped him.

[Redwood]

Ric Flair is definitely one of the greats, no doubt about it. He brought his own flair to the Four Horsemen group, along with Arn.

This is one of my favorite moments though: