[zanetti]

i actually did some research into HIV after a condom broke when i was in thailand

in terms of getting blown, there is only a theoretical risk of catching HIV; this means that it is so unlikely that it is almost practically impossible. there is not even one documented case where someone caught HIV from an unprotected bj

i also spoke to a doctor (STD specialist) who said that Hep B shoudl really be greater concern than HIV. he told me he was treating a woman who had been HIV positive for 3 years before she found out she had the illness. during those 3 years she had unprotected intercourse with her husband almost daily. in these 3 years the husband did not contract the illness from her

[Gmac]

(05-08-2011 02:53 AM)sylo Wrote:  

(05-07-2011 10:29 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Most importantly of all, a BJ carries zero risk of getting the 18-year virus.

I certianly do not believe in absolutes. Esp when risking HIV.

The 18 year virus = pregnancy, FYI.

[sylo]

I certianly do not believe in absolutes. Esp when risking HIV.
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The 18 year virus = pregnancy, FYI.
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Oh....I totally knew that.

[Kaizen]

(05-07-2011 10:19 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-06-2011 05:55 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

All treatable/curable, and like I said Gonorrhea from oral is very rare.

Approximately 10% probability of transmission during oral, 20% for vaginal. I wouldn't consider it rare.
To compare, HIV transmission probability during unprotected vaginal intercourse is 3%.

Where do you get these figures?

Risk of HIV Transmission per act of unprotected vaginal intercourse is consistently estimated being 1 in many hundreds...likely 10X less risky than your figure.

Gonorrhea from oral is rare.

@Zanetti...with any disease you have to take in account the prevalence of the disease. Hep B is rare in American women. Not uncommon in Asia.

A good reference is: http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STDs/show/116 is a forum where an MD internationally recognized in STDs answers peoples questions. Any STD question you can think of has likely been answered here.

[oldnemesis]

(05-09-2011 01:45 AM)bigxxx Wrote:  

Where do you get these figures?

From the doctor who screened me for STDs last time. We talked quite a bit about possible consequences of unprotected oral sex, and he was very disappointed that people treat it as an extremely safe activity while it is not.

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Risk of HIV Transmission per act of unprotected vaginal intercourse is consistently estimated being 1 in many hundreds...likely 10X less risky than your figure.

It depends on how you evaluate it. I'm talking about high-risk scenarios, when the virus load is high, the chance is roughly 3%. Now if you look on someone on proper medication who doesn't even have any detectable virus in their blood, the chance is probably not too different from zero. Mixing those categories together gives you the "average temperature in the hospital".

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Gonorrhea from oral is rare.

Only because people who carry it in the mouth are rarer. The transmission chance is not that low.

[gringochileno]

(05-09-2011 05:54 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Only because people who carry it in the mouth are rarer. The transmission chance is not that low.

True but irrelevant. When calculating your risk for getting a disease you need to take into account both the transmission rate and it's prevalence in the population, neither of which is more important than the other. Your risk of contracting a disease from one contact is the same for a disease that has a prevalence of 1% and a transmission rate of 100% as it is for a disease that has a prevalence of 100% and a transmission rate of 1%.

This is why getting HIV is so rare among heterosexuals. The disease prevalence in the US is less than 1% and the chance of transmission even during unprotected sex is something like 1 in 500, so as long as you're not banging high risk populations (primarily men who have sex with men and IV drug users), your chances of contracting HIV are around 1 in 50,000 or lower--many, many times less likely than something like dying in a car accident. (Incidentally, this is why raw-dogging a chick in Africa would be a very, very bad idea since the risk of contracting HIV goes way up as the prevalence rises, which can be as high as 30% in some countries.)

Still, even an outside chance like that is enough to get me to wrap it up, but I'm way more scared of knocking a chick up than any STD.

[oldnemesis]

(05-09-2011 08:22 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

This is why getting HIV is so rare among heterosexuals. The disease prevalence in the US is less than 1% and the chance of transmission even during unprotected sex is something like 1 in 500, so as long as you're not banging high risk populations (primarily men who have sex with men and IV drug users), your chances of contracting HIV are around 1 in 50,000 or lower--many, many times less likely than something like dying in a car accident. (Incidentally, this is why raw-dogging a chick in Africa would be a very, very bad idea since the risk of contracting HIV goes way up as the prevalence rises, which can be as high as 30% in some countries.)

Actually the number of people who got infected through heterosexual contacts in 2009 was higher than the number of people who got infected via IV drugs use.

[gringochileno]

(05-10-2011 04:43 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(05-09-2011 08:22 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

This is why getting HIV is so rare among heterosexuals. The disease prevalence in the US is less than 1% and the chance of transmission even during unprotected sex is something like 1 in 500, so as long as you're not banging high risk populations (primarily men who have sex with men and IV drug users), your chances of contracting HIV are around 1 in 50,000 or lower--many, many times less likely than something like dying in a car accident. (Incidentally, this is why raw-dogging a chick in Africa would be a very, very bad idea since the risk of contracting HIV goes way up as the prevalence rises, which can be as high as 30% in some countries.)

Actually the number of people who got infected through heterosexual contacts in 2009 was higher than the number of people who got infected via IV drugs use.

Not on a per-population basis, which is what matters for determining your exposure risk. 10 infected people in a population of 20 is a higher-risk group than 20 infected people in a population of 100. Presumably there are a lot more people having heterosexual sex than IV drug users so those numbers aren't surprising.