[TonySandos]

Isn't it funny how this interview is almost exactly like the older feminist interview Roosh did with that girl who writes for thoughtcatalog? If it weren't for the Lena Dunham and gamergate references, I would have thought this was the live version finally being released.

The result of each being so similar also leads me to believe that it's white knighting that ropes these women back into their feminist perspective after being in a reflective mindset post-interview. The women were caught in a hypnosis, disbelief that they're actually seeing some sense in the misogynist guy's views, but brought back by screaming and flailing objections from those that hold them to ideological expectations.

[Enigma]

(01-14-2015 05:28 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Regardless, she was still a good sportsman about the interview and the debate topics. She didn't ask anything cunty or underhanded, she didn't get overly emotional and resort to victimhood, she didn't call Roosh a woman-hating rapist asshole, and she actually voiced her frustration and puzzlement that that has been the only criticism of Roosh that fellow feminists have had to offer so far. That is commendable conduct, even if the bar is set pretty low here for feminists, and I don't think she did anything in the interview or her commentary after the fact to deserve being chastised.

Commending someone because they didn't openly debate or express hostility towards someone they're interviewing is giving them too much credit.

Those are literally the minimum requirements of successfully interviewing someone. It's a gold medal for crossing the finish line.

Quote:

I actually don't know that I've ever seen an exchange like this before... Real life or online. I would be extremely interested to see things like this happen again. Actual civil discourse between manosphere figureheads and feminist/progressive types. Why not?

The shrieking outragemongering of progressivism has lead to massive communication breakdown in politics and society, so I have to ask, why act shitty to maybe the first person to cross the line an initiate interesting conversation?

You've never seen someone do a professional interview before? I've seen serial killers interviewed with the same or more impartiality.

I'm not being shitty, I'm simply pointing out the facts. She calls a basic interview an "art project" and portrays herself as an artist for recording Roosh talk for two hours. She's the one who several times uses, "well, I'm an artist" as a rebuttal to Roosh's points about masculinity and introduces the video as "A Feminist Artist Interviews..."

But I can't debate whether she's an artist or not?

Also, the video's title "Monopoly on Logic" is an obvious shot at Roosh, as are almost all of her fairly condescending comments in the article introducing the interview. Notice that even though she expresses agreement with some of his ideas during the interview, everything she writes about the interview has the intent of discrediting and even mocking him.

I'm not saying I hate the chick, but saying how "sweet" she is because she didn't shout Roosh down during an interview is a little much.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I didn't watch it but I read the transcript, thank you so much for linking it. I've mentioned before that I'm just not a fan of videos.

My favorite moment was pointing out the ridiculousness of "homosexuality is genetic but gender is a social construct". Well done Roosh!

No comment on Kyle the King of Betas calling for violence out of the blue. He will convert more guys to the manosphere in those two seconds than Roosh did in those two hours.

[Horus]

1:34:20. Touching the back of her neck. Preceded by lots of placating giggling. She wishes she were ten younger and had longer, undied hair. Also the agitated foot movement at 1:52:10 followed by the sumbisisve shriek when Roosh tells her that women like to be led by a masculine man.

[Foolsgo1d]

If she grew her hair longer and didn't talk so much I WB.

[The Reactionary Tree]

Roosh did a brilliant job in the interview. He is clearly knowledgeable about the positions he holds. He made tons of great points refuting the feminist throughout the entire interview that just left her flustered or giggling about her position because she doesn't know how to respond. My favorite part was when the feminist was complaining about access to birth control being restricted and Roosh put her into her place by telling of his experiences abroad when women do not have access to birth control, abortions, Plan B, etc. and goes on to tell her how American women are so spoiled and entitled (because they have no restrictions on access to birth control) yet they still complain. Absolutely true.

[Roosh]

(01-13-2015 10:03 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

Seen the first half hour. I will keep watching, but so far I've noticed something that I don't think will change in the rest of the video: She is so sweet! Like too sweet for a feminist. ''Oh no no, I don't wanna upset you, stop me anytime you want''. Without the short hair I wouldn't believe she was a feminist. Is she faking or just exceptionally nice?

WB with long natural hair.

Roosh is calm and mild-mannered too as always. Who on earth would believe this is an interview between a feminist writer and a manosphere leader?

She didn't come across as a feminist to me, just a girl who is in conflict between her nature and her education.

Also, she offered me the entire $500 that she was awarded for interviewing me but I declined. I think her heart is in the right place.

[Krusyos]

I think Roosh hit the nail on the head when he said we don't have any male role models anymore. In fact, I do believe, in answer to the beginning of the interview, a good "job description" for Roosh would be a Professional Role Model. Instead of modeling in bikinis however, his life itself is the product on display: this is how men should live in a time where society is bringing the hammer down on traditional masculinity.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I think Kyle like other feeble-breasted male feminists should not threaten more masculine men.

Here a fight of SJW David Faraci with the independent film-maker Joe Swanberg, who is a long way off from good fighting form, but it was still a decisive win:

The interview went well for Roosh - I loved it how she was totally crushed during and visibly in the end. It was extremely stressful to her - Quintus is right - the format exacerbated the Big Brother Roosh talking down to some feeble-minded woman trying to keep her wits about as he hit her with logic and the added visual stimulation of his biceps - heh.

Notice also the art project almost seeming to be like a safari into the heart of the misogynist savage. Are SJWs and feminists so certain of being in such complete command over the narrative?

She was sweet and friendly enough to be a welcome experience for Roosh, so I guess it was a major win. I also believe that it took her by surprise that the interview did not go like Julian Blanc's public execution on CNN in apologetic beaten dog fashion.

Well done - and on a side note - you have a good chance for a bang if you ever meet her in person - then Beta orbiter Kyle has really a reason to threaten to beat you up.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(01-13-2015 11:58 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(01-13-2015 11:35 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5554...script.pdf

Quote:

[Roosh]: But no girl does that. No girl does that. No girl does that. No girl, and I've been with a lot of girls, no girl says 'yes at this point in time I am ready to engage in sex'. No girl does that. Zero.
[Angela]: Well they might say-
[Roosh]: Do you do that?
[Angela]: I'm like 'yeah, let's fuckin do it.'
*Angela laughs heartily*
[Roosh]: I mean you have to be in a bubble that's very small if you think girls do that. No girl does that. And I've been everywhere. No girl says that.

As to what I've quoted as usual I couldn't agree more with you. A law professor said it quite well that there wouldn't be many kids in this world if the girl had to verbally agree to have sex. Mind you this was before the peak of the feminism.

There are a few exceptions though, I believe it depends on what game you run. It has happened to me twice that girls whom I've never banged before outright verbally agreed to sex. One of the situations was when I got fed up with her LMR so I just walked out of there. When I was in the hall taking my shoes on I heard from the bedroom 'Ok, we can have sex'.

That's the exception that proves the rule.

It's the exception where a girl who was down for sex, still put up a show of resisting until the guy had given up and was literally on his way out the door.

I think few things could better demonstrate that fact that women are extremely resistant to admitting any desire to have sex and will always act like it's being put upon them.

I don't think this is evolutionary, though. I think it's cultural.

"I think few things could better demonstrate that fact that women are extremely resistant to admitting any desire to have sex and will always act like it's being put upon them. I don't think this is evolutionary, though. I think it's cultural."

I think it's evolutionary for the most part.

Women, first and foremost, seek to be desired. When a woman turns the tables and pursues a man for sex or when she gives it up easily, it says to her that she's not desired so much. It means her value as a woman isn't so great.

That makes her Peg Bundy, not Kelly Bundy. No woman wants to be Peg Bundy. (That's a "Married With Children" reference for you younger guys.)

There's also another factor here: women's sexuality is different from men's. Men are turned on by a lot of different things -- but one major thing that turns women on is men's desire itself. So, by putting sex off and getting a guy charged up, women often get themselves in the mood.

Finally, women are instinctively shrewd enough to know how valued forbidden fruit is. If they allow themselves to be bedded easily, a guy won't want it again -- or want it as much or want it with the same intensity. Yes, this is a cliche, but it's true.

Once you start giving things away, they lose value. It's the "drive it like you stole it" syndrome. If you don't have to pay some price for it (time, money, effort) you ultimately care about it less.

I've been in relationships where the woman's sex drive was higher than mine. (For some reason, this happens a lot with Jewish women, making me think all of this is at least partially cultural, hence the caveat "for the most part" in my first sentence.) This creates an uncomfortable dynamic in the relationship.

Although it seems hot at first, it gets old real fast...and there is some sexual tension that is permanently lost. For a guy, it's almost like being a gambler and knowing the games are rigged to let you win all the time (like that old "Twilight Zone" episode).

That gets old real fast. Socially shrewd women know this instinctively and that's why they behave the way they do.

One reason this isn't discussed is because it's complicated. Trying to put all these thoughts into a soundbite for an interview would be near-impossible. I would also recommend never verbalizing all this with a woman you're sleeping with. No one needs to talk to the magician about how he does his tricks. Just enjoy the show.

[Dr. Howard]

(01-14-2015 08:24 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(01-13-2015 10:03 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

Seen the first half hour. I will keep watching, but so far I've noticed something that I don't think will change in the rest of the video: She is so sweet! Like too sweet for a feminist. ''Oh no no, I don't wanna upset you, stop me anytime you want''. Without the short hair I wouldn't believe she was a feminist. Is she faking or just exceptionally nice?

WB with long natural hair.

Roosh is calm and mild-mannered too as always. Who on earth would believe this is an interview between a feminist writer and a manosphere leader?

She didn't come across as a feminist to me, just a girl who is in conflict between her nature and her education.

Also, she offered me the entire $500 that she was awarded for interviewing me but I declined. I think her heart is in the right place.

Watched the whole thing and I agree, this woman struck me as someone that still adheres to the concepts of being polite and respectful, or even genuinely nice to someone that you have no personal wrongs with.

She disagreed or questioned what Roosh was saying but didn't go off on any tirades of cursing or yelling. +1 to her for conducting herself in a way that allows other people to respect her, even if those viewers may completely disagree with her stated viewpoints.

[Cheetah]

(01-14-2015 09:10 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(01-13-2015 11:58 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(01-13-2015 11:35 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5554...script.pdf

Quote:

[Roosh]: But no girl does that. No girl does that. No girl does that. No girl, and I've been with a lot of girls, no girl says 'yes at this point in time I am ready to engage in sex'. No girl does that. Zero.
[Angela]: Well they might say-
[Roosh]: Do you do that?
[Angela]: I'm like 'yeah, let's fuckin do it.'
*Angela laughs heartily*
[Roosh]: I mean you have to be in a bubble that's very small if you think girls do that. No girl does that. And I've been everywhere. No girl says that.

As to what I've quoted as usual I couldn't agree more with you. A law professor said it quite well that there wouldn't be many kids in this world if the girl had to verbally agree to have sex. Mind you this was before the peak of the feminism.

There are a few exceptions though, I believe it depends on what game you run. It has happened to me twice that girls whom I've never banged before outright verbally agreed to sex. One of the situations was when I got fed up with her LMR so I just walked out of there. When I was in the hall taking my shoes on I heard from the bedroom 'Ok, we can have sex'.

That's the exception that proves the rule.

It's the exception where a girl who was down for sex, still put up a show of resisting until the guy had given up and was literally on his way out the door.

I think few things could better demonstrate that fact that women are extremely resistant to admitting any desire to have sex and will always act like it's being put upon them.

I don't think this is evolutionary, though. I think it's cultural.

"I think few things could better demonstrate that fact that women are extremely resistant to admitting any desire to have sex and will always act like it's being put upon them. I don't think this is evolutionary, though. I think it's cultural."

I think it's evolutionary for the most part.

Women, first and foremost, seek to be desired. When a woman turns the tables and pursues a man for sex or when she gives it up easily, it says to her that she's not desired so much. It means her value as a woman isn't so great.

That makes her Peg Bundy, not Kelly Bundy. No woman wants to be Peg Bundy. (That's a "Married With Children" reference for you younger guys.)

There's also another factor here: women's sexuality is different from men's. Men are turned on by a lot of different things -- but one major thing that turns women on is men's desire itself. So, by putting sex off and getting a guy charged up, women often get themselves in the mood.

Finally, women are instinctively shrewd enough to know how valued forbidden fruit is. If they allow themselves to be bedded easily, a guy won't want it again -- or want it as much or want it with the same intensity. Yes, this is a cliche, but it's true.

Once you start giving things away, they lose value. It's the "drive it like you stole it" syndrome. If you don't have to pay some price for it (time, money, effort) you ultimately care about it less.

I've been in relationships where the woman's sex drive was higher than mine. (For some reason, this happens a lot with Jewish women, making me think all of this is at least partially cultural, hence the caveat "for the most part" in my first sentence.) This creates an uncomfortable dynamic in the relationship.

Although it seems hot at first, it gets old real fast...and there is some sexual tension that is permanently lost. For a guy, it's almost like being a gambler and knowing the games are rigged to let you win all the time (like that old "Twilight Zone" episode).

That gets old real fast. Socially shrewd women know this instinctively and that's why they behave the way they do.

One reason this isn't discussed is because it's complicated. Trying to put all these thoughts into a soundbite for an interview would be near-impossible. I would also recommend never verbalizing all this with a woman you're sleeping with. No one needs to talk to the magician about how he does his tricks. Just enjoy the show.

Maybe you are both right.

Perhaps it's evolutionary not to give up sex too easily. Culture dictates what situations are 'easy' and which ones are 'hard'.

In a very traditional society where arrangement game is the norm, I doubt that the girl would put any or much LMR on the wedding night. She would even be shamed if not having sex, as that would mean that they can't show proof that the goods weren't damaged by showing off the sheets. But in that case she doesn't give it up easily anyway, as the man had to tie the knot to win her over.

[Sonsowey]

This is really civil. There's so much bitter name-calling and exaggeration online, when people talk face-to-face, even on Skype, they suddenly are basically polite to each other.

I think this is great, with Mike from D&P doing debates with people on Gamer Gate, Roosh being interviewed by feminists. Getting our ideas put out there and showing the mainstream that there are alternatives.

Hopefully Lindy West can do a debate with someone soon. El Mechanico?

[Deluge]

Best interview of Roosh yet.

[HD668B]

After a long 2 hours interview, I was interested to check the comments on the website it was posted.

You can't make that shit up, the first comment is ad hominem on Roosh' appearance "Roosh is ugly".

I think we might have a new strategy there, just let the feminist talk as much as they want, they will sooner or later kill their own credibility.
Just like you trapped her with the gender vs gay construct.

[Aer]

"This is merely logic. People aren't moved by logic."

That's what I'm scared about. This is what we're up against, they aren't logical thinkers.

As portrayed by the white knight at the end of the video...reacting emotionally to a completely logical interview.

[Praetor Lupus]

(01-13-2015 07:24 PM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

In case anybody was wondering, the guy who fantasised about beating the shit out of Roosh is this chap:


If Adam's Apples Could Kill...

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

[joseywales]

That's probably the first time in her life she'd encountered an assertive, confident male. After that interview I bet she took care of her tingles until the batteries ran out.

[IvanDrago]

(01-13-2015 07:24 PM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

In case anybody was wondering, the guy who fantasied about beating the shit out of Roosh is this chap:


If Adam's Apples Could Kill...

What do you think, was Roosh the pitcher or the catcher in his fantasy?

[Barron]

Its interesting that she is so determined to interview a chick that Roosh has boinked.

Why doesn't she do the deed herself and then blog about it?

[Advent Persona]

After this interview, she was converted. The only thing that was needed to complete her baptism was the bang. Pity this was done over skype and not in person.

Great interview. I will be sharing.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(01-14-2015 11:26 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Its interesting that she is so determined to interview a chick that Roosh has boinked.

Why doesn't she do the deed herself and then blog about it?

The concept of "interviewing" women Roosh or anyone has had sex with shows how little feminists understand human nature. Most sane humans don't want their sex lives public and splayed all over the Internet for all eternity.

I know one of his exes fairly well, but I think she'd laugh in my face (or hang up the phone) if I called and suggested an interview about this topic.

One of the most embarrassing aspects of the "Internet feminism culture" is their tendency to overshare. So we get articles on the minutiae of women's sexual encounters, what women's periods are like, videos of a woman having an abortion, etc.

But most women do not overshare this much. There is a huge, huge difference between snapping selfies and putting paragraphs on the Web about having sex with someone. I don't think this writer will find any woman who will speak on this, unless they do it anonymously (and then how will we know it's even real?).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-14-2015 11:45 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(01-14-2015 11:26 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Its interesting that she is so determined to interview a chick that Roosh has boinked.

Why doesn't she do the deed herself and then blog about it?

The concept of "interviewing" women Roosh or anyone has had sex with shows how little feminists understand human nature. Most sane humans don't want their sex lives public and splayed all over the Internet for all eternity.

I know one of his exes fairly well, but I think she'd laugh in my face (or hang up the phone) if I called and suggested an interview about this topic.

One of the most embarrassing aspects of the "Internet feminism culture" is their tendency to overshare. So we get articles on the minutiae of women's sexual encounters, what women's periods are like, videos of a woman having an abortion, etc.

But most women do not overshare this much. There is a huge, huge difference between snapping selfies and putting paragraphs on the Web about having sex with someone. I don't think this writer will find any woman who will speak on this, unless they do it anonymously (and then how will we know it's even real?).

Exactly - some celebrities have fucked literally thousands - all in the high-class sexual market among models, actresses and wannabe-models. The reason why most of them don't go out and start giving interviews about having sucked Schwarzenegger, Stallone, DiCaprio or Jack Nicholson is because of how human sexuality works.

In essence even if the girl on the spur of attention whoring wants to kiss and tell displaying her face or worse - her name - on the internet forever, in the end she will likely regret it at some point as she may meet a wealthy Beta in 10 years and he will come upon that interview. Worst case her fiance might even cancel the wedding and often she may be shamed by other women or her family. NO - women understand perfectly well the rules of the secret society and so do many men who play the field.

An interview is only marginally better to a secretly filmed porn vid that Roosh uploads. I have a friend who records some of the girls he fucks, but he never lets anyone near his collection. The most he has done was show some vids - they are as secure as Fort Knox on a separate password protected hard-drive. It's actually a form of respect and understanding for women to not put them in the spotlight like that.

[aphelion]

(01-14-2015 06:23 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

[Angela]: Oh good. How are you? What does your shirt say?
[Roosh]: Brazil.
[Angela]: Oh cool. Just curious.
[Roosh]: I lived there for 6 months...but this was back in 2008. A lot of time has passed

Is it me, or is it a perfect case of an "elderly opener" and unconscious gaming?

I thought the exact same thing. Once you get into that zone...

[turkishcandy]

- Did anyone else hear that splashing sound of her wet panties when Roosh refused to tell her how many hundred girls he banged? She stared in a way that shouts ''I would be willing to fuck you just so you would tell me your notch count''.

- About the interviewer, she is surprisingly polite, VERY respectful of Roosh’s views that she doesn’t really agree with, doesn’t try to attack or speculate or get offended or get defensive about anything. She is not objectively anything special, but for American standards she is extraordinary. Even after Roosh told her to grow her hair out, she didn’t get hostile, she just laughed it off. Plus, she doesn’t look too chubby below the shoulder line. In the video she is a 6 at best, but raise this girl in a non-toxic culture and she would easily be a 7, even an 8 if she stayed fit.


-Notice how she’s touching her neck and smiling at 1h40m when Roosh is talking about touching and kissing and orgasms? Asking Roosh if he goes down on women and ‘’Can I ask why not?’’ Breathing heavily, touching her legs, licking her lips, all between 1:40 and 1:44. Asking why he doesn’t like short hair? ‘’What would you suggest for my future haircut?’’ She wants the D. Watch the last 20 minutes carefully, a lot of flirting going on from her side. God, 20 more minutes of this interview and Roosh would have turned it to a camshow.

Roosh, I know she sent you nudes right after the interview. Don’t even pretend she didn’t.

- Roosh should have a well-rehearsed and concrete response to ‘’no means no’’ stuff instead of trying to explain it by examples every time. Hamsters gonna be hamsters and they will take whatever he says out of context to make him seem in a way that serves their agenda. So he should leave as little room for speculations as possible. I think a good way of doing that is by acknowledging first that ‘’no means no’’, and then continue to explain what ELSE it means. Such as;

- ‘’No’’ means no, yes, but what it really means is ‘’no, I’m not ready to have sex this instant’’. It doesn’t mean ‘’no, get out of my place’’ or ‘’no, get away from me’’, unless she makes it clear that this is what it means, either verbally or orally. So, as long as you stop at her every no and then try again later when she is more comfortable, there is nothing non-consensual or even controversial going on here. This way you are both ‘’not taking no as a final answer’’ and respecting her ‘’no’’s. Saying ‘’when she says no she doesn’t actually mean it if she is still there’’ is very open to misinterpretations. To play devil’s advocate, I would say you are assuming that a girl cannot KISS you and NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX at the same time. Anyway, just a suggestion.

- Roosh biting his pen looks like his way of focusing on his next response. I don’t think it’s a sign of being nervous. I bet he is doing it all the time when he’s writing a blog post. My way of focusing is taking a sip from my drink, for instance.

- Roosh told her several times that she is a smart girl. This is a very strategic move in debates and in game. In debate, he’s suggesting that he thinks higher of her intelligence than she is, and therefore she should smarten up and come to agree with his view which is supposed to be more logical and smarter. It also makes a friendly connection between the debaters so it makes her feel guilty to disagree with him in the future. In game, he’s paying an uncommon compliment to the girl to make her feel nicer, but it’s not a physical compliment as girls are used to so it doesn’t raise her value and make him seem needy. I can see him paying the same compliment to a lot of girls just because they are sweet and not cunt-ish.

- Kyle’s hostility towards Roosh is 110% natural. It takes an alpha to respect and not envy another alpha. Our little Kyle naturally feels threatened by the presence of a man who is at the top of the hierarchy of his species, especially when this man is around Kyle’s potential match. Plus, Roosh definitely overstepped Kyle’s comfort zone when he said she’s not surrounded by masculine guys. There there, dear Kyle, it’s over, uncle Roosh isn’t gonna hurt your chances anymore. You are doing enough damage yourself by being a white knight anyway.

Great interview Roosh!