[Brotein]

(01-07-2015 08:11 AM)mikado Wrote:  

(01-07-2015 08:02 AM)Brotein Wrote:  

I train with some Muslim guys and one thing that is very clear is that you should not make fun of Islam or their culture or they will lose their shit. They are all tough as hell (chechens).

This is a clash of cultures: millenial liberal westerners poking the most aggressive high T men on the face of the planet. Attack their religion or culture and you can expect a fight on your hands.

I am an atheist and a tough dude, but I step around this topic when talking to them.

Their perception of religion amplifies their agressivity, yes, but it's not the sole reason. I think it's a combination of religion, poverty, not getting laid, supremacist and cultural roots that makes them go wild. Even in Middle East, richer guys DGAF about jihad or islamism. Same in Africa. On the other hand, those who have nothing to rely on , except religion, go apeshit effectively when you criticize their religion, or even religious confrery ( in my country, there are some confreries, and among them, one is notorious for going crazy when you say something bad against the founder, even if you are also muslim, because they believe they are chosen among the chosen ,even among the Muslims).

This is why for me, chastizing Islam publicly will not change much the dynamic. Moderate ones will still be moderate and not lift a single finger, because they mostly DGAF. extremists will be MORE extremists.

I don't think this is true.

These guys don't strike me as poor or not being able to get laid, most muslim men can get a woman from somewhere. They may not have huge notch counts but they can definitely get a wife.

These are guys who are essentially very alpha and if you challenge their way of life they will want to crush you.

I think a lot of more effeminate western men expect people to want to discuss things, or debate positions, but this is not how these Chechens see the world. They believe in what they believe, they will not change their opinion and you cannot debate with them.

I sometimes mess with them a bit, but when I do I feel like I am standing next to a time bomb about to attack me at any second.

[Sailor]

(01-07-2015 07:56 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

They were muslim and it was done in the name of Islam, just like those other attacks in France recently.

Yep,anyone remember the Toulouse shooting?

[mikado]

4 relatively known journalists are dead.

[richler]

france is a true western country. when there seem to be cultural clashes that might occur as a result of this or that, they happen, and then you get michel houellebecq, soumission and sadly this.

they do not hide under politesse and taboos — they speak their minds.

true satire is a dangerous game (here i am looking at you, jon stewart).

we live in interesting times and france, for the first time in over a century, is again at the avant-garde.

[Teedub]

(01-07-2015 08:02 AM)Brotein Wrote:  

I train with some Muslim guys and one thing that is very clear is that you should not make fun of Islam or their culture or they will lose their shit. They are all tough as hell (chechens).

This is a clash of cultures: millenial liberal westerners poking the most aggressive high T men on the face of the planet. Attack their religion or culture and you can expect a fight on your hands.

I am an atheist and a tough dude, but I step around this topic when talking to them.

You make it sound like they targeted the Buzzfeed offices! This isn't about 'millenial liberal westerners' - it's an attack on the principles of free speech, which are drawn from the very ideals upon which Western Civilisation is built upon. It's a complete clash of civilisations.

It's alien, it's frightening, and it's going to end extremely messily. And I don't say that in a "I can't wait for a civil war" way, I actually am scared of these type of lone wolf attacks. They're going to happen on an increasing basis across Europe in my opinion.

[Saweeep]

The French reaction to this recent chaos is going to be interesting.

We live in interesting times.

[bojangles]

Marie Le Pen will be the next French President, these islamists are just driving the public into her hands and then inevitably will be driving themselves out of the country. Right wing parties are gaining votes all over Europe from each incident like this

[mikado]

I think moderates muslims should effectively stand up and display their support and rallying with France and the victims.

I am trying to join my bros to coordinate a mob, or something, in the city.

[KC4]

I am just waiting for the day i hear the about lars vilks and kåre blutgein who drew the Muhammed caricatures gets killed.
Is it truly that offensive to criticise Islam? Not trying to bash or anything just wondering why

[Brotein]

(01-07-2015 08:24 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(01-07-2015 08:02 AM)Brotein Wrote:  

I train with some Muslim guys and one thing that is very clear is that you should not make fun of Islam or their culture or they will lose their shit. They are all tough as hell (chechens).

This is a clash of cultures: millenial liberal westerners poking the most aggressive high T men on the face of the planet. Attack their religion or culture and you can expect a fight on your hands.

I am an atheist and a tough dude, but I step around this topic when talking to them.

You make it sound like they targeted the Buzzfeed offices! This isn't about 'millenial liberal westerners' - it's an attack on the principles of free speech, which are drawn from the very ideals upon which Western Civilisation is built upon. It's a complete clash of civilisations.

It's alien, it's frightening, and it's going to end extremely messily. And I don't say that in a "I can't wait for a civil war" way, I actually am scared of these type of lone wolf attacks. They're going to happen on an increasing basis across Europe in my opinion.

You clearly have more faith in this 'western free press' than I do. I don't think press is free in the west at all, this is just a tagline used to make people feel proud of western civilization. I think this whole clash of civilizations is just over dramatized, I am quite right wing, but sometimes I can't help but laugh at right wing people.


Perhaps millennial is incorrect, although these are western liberals for sure.

[Candlejack]

Islamic terrorists. Such a convenient enemy. The poilice state is coming. They have the watch.

[Saweeep]

So the gunmen appear to still be on the loose...armed with an RPG??

[sixsix]

WARNING: Very graphic violence.

A video of the execution of a French police officer. It's nauseating, so watch at your own risk.

Shown are two men with AK47s and a police officer gunned down. When they run towards him, he moves and lifts his arms up to protect himself. He is shot in the head from a close distance.

VIDEO.

[Roosh]

(01-07-2015 09:01 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

WARNING: Very graphic violence.

A video of the execution of a French police officer. It's nauseating, so watch at your own risk.

Shown are two men with AK47s and a police officer gunned down. When they run towards him, he moves and lifts his arms up to protect himself. He is shot in the head from a close distance.

VIDEO.

That's sad how they decided so easily to take away a life.

The guys look professional.

[UroboricForms]

This is so fucked up. As much as I think free speech is important its exactly this kind of "I'll say/do what I want" attitude that is the problem. Evidence? It just got 12 people filled with bullets. Like someone said, what do you expect when you poke fun at the most aggressive culture in the world right now? One that has a faction of zealots who are in the middle of a modern Jihad against seemingly everyone who isn't them?

I'm honestly counting down the days until we get a repeat of 7/7 in London.

[sixsix]

(01-07-2015 09:05 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

That's sad how they decided so easily to take away a life.

The guys look professional.

Very recently they found a garage in Amsterdam filled with automatic machine guns, grenades, body armor and stuff like that. There will be many more of such places and many men that have much to gain by fighting the weak societies that took them in and gave them everything.

If you leave your shithole country because you want to live in a normal place, the normal place is by no means obligated to allow you in, but at least I understand and can empathize.

If you leave your shithole country and then keep the customs and traditions that made the home country shit, and try to enforce it on the indigenous people, then you didn't come for our liberal values and freedom.

Instead, you came to colonize and subvert from within. It's a Fifth Column.

Edit to add: Muslims are the untouchables in Western Europe. Whereas everything about liberal, white people is racist, sexist and homophobic when it's clearly not, the massive immigration of very sexist, very racist and extremely homophobic muslims cannot be criticized.

At least now prominent media figures are attacked, though from the sounds of it a very critical publication. Normally lower class people are the targets of immigrants while the leftist elite can be morally superior from their all-white expensive neighborhoods. It's easy to love immigrants when the only few your exposed to are a couple of multiculturalism role models.

The sad thing is that instead of waking up the media, it will only further their resolve to push the appeasement narrative. Unfortunately, the cowards were spared and the brave ones that stood for free speech were killed. The people, on the other hand, will be further driven to the right. Interesting times ahead.

[Roosh]

Those two guys are still on the loose and heavily armed.

France does have a SWAT team:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupes_d%2..._Nationale

[Bushido]

(01-07-2015 09:07 AM)UroboricForms Wrote:  

This is so fucked up. As much as I think free speech is important its exactly this kind of "I'll say/do what I want" attitude that is the problem. Evidence? It just got 12 people filled with bullets. Like someone said, what do you expect when you poke fun at the most aggressive culture in the world right now?

So people should self-censor their opinions about one religion to not get gunned down? No thanks. That's exactly what these Islamist bigots want. Freedom of speech includes the right to offend people who don't agree with you.

The French press should show solidarity with Charlie Hebdo and reprint the offending cartoons in tomorrow's editions. I can always dream.

[Cincinnatus]

(01-07-2015 08:24 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

It's alien, it's frightening, and it's going to end extremely messily. And I don't say that in a "I can't wait for a civil war" way, I actually am scared of these type of lone wolf attacks. They're going to happen on an increasing basis across Europe in my opinion.

One thing I think these Islamic extremists seem to forget is that Europeans are really, really good at war. So good, in fact, that nearly the whole continent hasn't seen a war on its own soil since the mid 1940's, when tens of millions of Europeans died. Europeans are so fucking good at war that they've been avoiding another one at nearly any cost, after centuries upon centuries of conflict.

If these extremist Islamic assholes keep pushing, sooner or later they will awaken a new European war machine, and it's not going to be pretty.

[michelin]

Quote:

(01-07-2015 07:15 AM)mikado Wrote:  

Enough with the religion trolling please.
It's not like a mob constitued of a group of people shouting "In God we believe, and Muhammad is his messenger" attacked Charlie Hebdo.

Mikado, sorry to tell you that that was actually exactly what these terrorists shouted:

Quote:

The gunmen shouted "we have avenged the Prophet Muhammad", witnesses say

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30710883

[seabridge]

war is coming

[Roosh]

Quote:

If these extremist Islamic assholes keep pushing, sooner or later they will awaken a new European war machine

That would require elections of more rightward politicians, which is exactly what we're seeing in Europe now. We're looking at a 10-20 years timeline for radical changes, which is short in the grand scheme of things. Even Sweden's far right party is rising.

It's ironic that the policies used to prevent another WW2 will create something just as bad.

[Candlejack]

Anngirfan believes it was Mossad.

http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/m...paris.html

He writes:-

On 7 January 2015, Mossad assets reportedly shot dead 12 people at the offices of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo in Paris.

Charlie Hebdo has reportedly made fun of the Mossad agent Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (Simon Elliot).

Mossad reportedly wants revenge for:

French MPs voting in favour of a Palestinian state.

France voting against Israel at the UN.

Twelve people, 10 journalists and two policemen, have been killed.

Amchai Stein, the deputy editor of Israeli IBA Channel 1, just happened to be at the scene and has been posting photos of the shooting.

"Two black-hooded men entered the building with Kalashnikovs. A few minutes later we heard lots of shots," a witness told local TV station iTele, adding that the men were then seen fleeing the building.

[Saweeep]

Here are some scary statistics and sources:

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Pol...

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/...
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-ir...

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-pa...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,...

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/S...

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the...

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the...

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the...

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail...

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans...

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-amer...

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans...

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Relig...

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Relig...

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-pales...

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics...
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics...

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terro... for further statistics on Islamic terror.

Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans...

Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-amer...

Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-american...

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://terrorism.about.com/b/2006/09/11/al-jazeera...

Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007
56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/15/iran-terrorism-al...

Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden
54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/10/blinded-by-hate...
http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/268.pdf

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-suppor...
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-...

World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law.
Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries;
(Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/S...

ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/guardian...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden:
Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings
Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer)
Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer)
Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings
Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings. (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings).
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/S...

Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable)
23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable)
34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda
25% of Indonesians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003)
1 in 5 Egyptians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the...

Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-amer...

Gallup: 51% of Pakistanis grieve Osama bin Laden (only 11% happy over death)
44% of Pakistanis viewed Osama bin Laden as a martyr (only 28% as an oulaw)
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/majori...

Zogby International 2011: “Majorities in all six countries said they viewed the United States less favorably following the killing of the Al-Qaeda head [Osama bin Laden] in Pakistan”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-was...

Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda.
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_summaries/2006_...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/libimages/...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law."
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/9...

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/16627...

Gallup: 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/05/that-tiny...
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC06.php...

Pew Research (2011): Large majorities of Muslims believe in 9/11 conspiracy
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims-westerner...

40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fil...

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)

Center for Social Cohesion: One Third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/Wi...
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pdf/IslamonCampus....

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawFor...

NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/...
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

NOP Research: Hardcore Islamists comprise 9% of Britain's Muslim population;
Another 29% would "aggressively defend" Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/...
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam
51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the...

ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian...
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-surve...

Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all.
http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.html/pot/...

Pew Research (2013): 76% of South Asian Muslims and 56% of Egyptians advocate killing anyone who leaves the Islamic religion.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Relig...

Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Relig...

Pew Research (2013): 39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam (only 58% say 'never').
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/artic...

Die Presse (2013): 1 in 5 Muslims in Austria believe that anyone wanting to leave Islam should be killed.
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/s...

Muslims have highest claimed disability rates in the UK (24% of men, 21% of women)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/Wi...

2011: 16% of UK prisoners in 2010 are Muslim (Muslims comprise about 3% of the total population)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/A...

Pakistani Muslims in the UK are three times more likely to be unemployed than Hindus. Indian Muslims are twice as likely to be unemployed as Indian Hindus.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/daniel-greenfield/isl...

Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site%20Do...
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawFor...

[TravelerKai]

(01-07-2015 09:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Those two guys are still on the loose and heavily armed.

France does have a SWAT team:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupes_d%2..._Nationale

The French GIPN are about as elite as it gets. On par with the German GSG9 and the FBI's HRT teams.