Quote: (12-19-2015 03:28 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:
The progression of her training is ridiculous... but she is the daughter of Luke Skywalker and heir to the Skywalker bloodline.
I keep seeing this assertion being bandied about, but I don't see positive evidence in favour of it other than "She's a protagonist of a Star Wars movie who can use the Force, which means she must be related in some way to that pain in the ass nine year old who still couldn't get over sand twenty years later." That vision she has does not establish her as having Luke's genes. And indeed the idea that she
is Luke's child when there's really no women in these movies other than Luke's sister leaves us looking for a missing cunt or going ... "Oh shit. So those incest-laced scenes in ANH and ESB
were on purpose."
That aside, her bloodline still doesn't explain picking up Force powers as if she'd just levelled up and unlocked the "Cell Block 1138" achievement. Anakin Skywalker
literally had OVER 9,000 levels of Force ability and his Force abilities untrained still came down to piloting speeders with unnatural timing. Luke didn't start picking up new and random Force powers in the space of about, what, twenty minutes or so.
No criticism - frankly I'm calling her as a new vergence in the Force like Anakin was come Episode 8, but who knows. Maybe they'll find some fiftysomething actress we could believe would tempt Luke to stick his dick in it sometime twenty years earlier. Frankly I thought we'd run into more of Han's bastard children than Luke's in this trilogy, but what the hell.
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I inferred that Finn and Rey had prior training - Finn from his upbringing as a First Order stormtrooper, and Rey has at least a scrappy and pragmatic knowledge of fighting as established with her fighting with the staff. For her backstory, scavenger from a desert junkyard world, I get it. Whereas Kylo Ren had been hit by Chewbaca's crossbow shot which I buy as nullifying his advantage due to greater familiarity with the lightsaber. I'm assuming he's wearing high-quality armor, since that crossbow had notched several clean kills in fully armored stormtroopers.
Yyyyyeah, I get it, they certainly laid on the bodily injuries to convince you that Kylo Ren was injured and therefore not fighting at his best. But still.
Still. This guy is implied to have been trained first by Luke, then by Snoke (calling it now, that'll be Darth Plagueis back from the dead, mark my words), then gone on to kill all of Luke's Jedi students ... and even
when uninjured he can't bust into a pre-padawan's head and then can't cut her down with a lightsaber either.
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There are hints of a more grounding backstory with some Jedi Academy elements alluded to. Setting up Kylo Ren for another Vader arc was pretty poor, but on the other hand he was quite a good villain. There's something in his voice, that shows he's not really robotic. I could feel that this character knew he had cast his lot with the wrong side, but is too afraid to admit it, so doubles down.
Against my better judgment I've got a feeling this guy might not be more iconic than Vader, but he'll be a little more realistic. Particularly ironic is that his chief hangup seems to be the fear that he's not as strong as Vader was ... which is pretty much
exactly the same fear that Anakin Skywalker had before he fell, the fear that without the Dark Side he wasn't strong enough in the Force to save Padme.
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Really liked Finn and Poe, their teamup at the beginning was great, though short.
Seconded; first pairing up of a couple of guys that a Hollywood director manages to portray without it coming off as homoerotic...although don't worry, that shit will come thick and fast between now and Ep 8.
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I am looking forward to Episode 8.
I'd say that's about as much as anyone can hope for. This sucker was never meant to stand alone, it's very clearly act 1 of a three act opera. The problem now being: what can they do with it that's new and hasn't been done before? ESB expanded on ANH in every meaningful way, not least insights on the Force via Yoda. What are they going to do to make Ep 8 as big or better than ESB, since that's now the inevitable comparison to be made?
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