[harveyspecter]

How do you deal when someone in your area is better than you or not even better but seen as better in eyes of your boss or in eyes of other people.

Just a general question I'm interesting to see an answer in a 'red pill' way of thinking.

[Travesty]

Learn from them and take whatever you can to use to your advantage.

If they outshine you so much you can never compete and they affect your success time to put some distance. Whether that means hanging out less with them when picking up chicks, or finding a new job if your coworkers will always be infront of you.

It is always smart to befriend people better than you.

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

I don't know if this is red pill or not. But thinking back to my NYC days, I would learn from them, surpass them, and then if that failed and they were a threat to my interests and advancement, I would undermine them.

[Samseau]

You can't be the best in everything. But as long as you're better than 80% of people in a given field, you'll do alright.

[Oz.]

In the words of my Goju Ryu sensei:

"No matter how good you become someone will always surpass you, being the best is only a temporary state of being"

[PhatBoy]

Don't compare yourself to others in that way. No one is perfect in every way. Your strengths may be their weaknesses and vice versa. Put yourself in the power position and look at where you excel and their weaknesses, and how you can use that knowledge to your advantage if it's a competitive scenario.

If it isn't a competitive scenario. Ignore them. There's nothing to compete for with someone else. Compete with yourself, make tomorrow's you better than today's you.

[Ensam]

A reporter once asked John Lennon if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world.

Lennon replied, "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles."

You don't need to be the best in order to be successful. In fact some of the most successful people are merely average in any particular area but are some how able to combine what they do have in a unique way. In fact being the best can be a bit of a liability because it's easy to rest on your laurels and not keep trying to improve.

[Truth Teller]

Sometimes, you just tip your hat to the other guy.

I'll put it another way. None of us here are to the best in the world at game. Some of us are pretty damn good, but I don't think too many naturals really hang out here.

Even though we're not the best, we're still better than 99% of the male population.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Find a niche and do that better than anyone. Or find two niches. That way you section off a corner of the work that people recognize you for.

For example, before I became a writer, I worked in newspaper graphic design during college, because I knew it would put me in the orbit of the writing world. I was only a passable designer -- and was absolutely awful at designing free-form "artsy" stuff. Unfortunately, that was what got the boss' attention.

Then I found out the company published phone directories that had maps that needed updating. I was good at doing maps. No one else liked them because they weren't "sexy." But by becoming "map guy," I became an indispensable part of the team.

By finding a niche, you get to compete, but on your own terms.

[Praetor Lupus]

(11-20-2014 04:13 PM)harveyspecter Wrote:  

How do you deal when someone in your area is better than you or not even better but seen as better in eyes of your boss or in eyes of other people.

Just a general question I'm interesting to see an answer in a 'red pill' way of thinking.

It is inevitable.

Just as it is that you will be better in other areas than them.

Just play to your strengths and address your weaknesses as best you can and don't get obsessed by what everyone else is doing.

[Sawyer]

As you mentioned the difference is between people who actually are better and the people who have convinced others they are better.

Both problems can be remedied. The first type is easy. Practice and study.

The second type is a bitch. As Trump constantly mentioned in "The Apprentice," "defend yourself because nobody else will." Now if your work speaks for itself you might think it stupid that you also have to defend yourself. But you do. You have to market yourself constantly, talk yourself up and inflate yourself to those around you. One thing that helps is to refer to yourself in the third person.

"Harvey Specter likes to win!" "Harvey Specter is good at fixing air conditioning units, believe me." "Harvey Specter is the best in the office." Etc. It sounds ridiculous but people good at promoting themselves get away with it.

If you don't think defending yourself is something you can excel at, and some people just can't get there, the solution is what has been mentioned already: get really good at a specialty and force people to come to you. Then you never have to defend yourself. Love you or hate you, people will come crawling to use your services, and at that point anybody who says you're not the best will just get laughed at.

[Badamson]

I would say to work on being the best you can be in whatever relevant areas you can and lead with the areas you are strongest, in order to stand out in those. I know we are all competitive, but recognizing that one has limitations and realizing what those limitations are is a red pill concept in itself. Even just having that knowledge will give you an advantage over scores of delusional people that lie to themselves.

[StrikeBack]

Irrelevant.

I work on being better than myself, not another person.

[Sp5]

(11-20-2014 04:54 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

I don't know if this is red pill or not. But thinking back to my NYC days, I would learn from them, surpass them, and then if that failed and they were a threat to my interests and advancement, I would undermine them.

If you are on the same team, you do not undermine them, you support them. Like if you were on Team America together.

I met too many "underminers" in embassies and aid missions. There are even some in the military. That is one reason why America is losing ground in the world.

[Geomann180]

To explain how I think in game terms:

If I meet a man who has less notches than me, maybe I might be able to teach him something.

If I meet a man who has more notches than me, maybe he could teach me something.

Spread the wealth and it will come back.

G

[scotian]

Being the blue collar unionized meat head that I am, I would never want to be the best at my job, nor would I want to be the worst, I like to fly under the radar and make my immediate supervisors happy so that they'll put in a good word for me and ensure that I'll get rehired. No brown nosing, no back stabbing, just get the job done then peace the fuck out!

[Frank Rook]

(11-20-2014 04:13 PM)harveyspecter Wrote:  

How do you deal when someone in your area is better than you or not even better but seen as better in eyes of your boss or in eyes of other people.

Just a general question I'm interesting to see an answer in a 'red pill' way of thinking.

Read Robert Greene's '48 Laws of Power' & '33 Strategies of War' for some reference points.
In the meantime, i would follow the advice in this thread about finding one's niche.
Make sure your own foundation of skills is solid & relevant. Metaphorically be sharpening your axe when you're at rest while everyone else just keeps blunting their axes looking busy. (efficiency vs effort)
Attitude counts as well. Bruce Lee once said something along the lines of using your energy to extend your own line of progress instead of wasting it trying to cut off someone else's line.
Superior process leads to superior product. Don't cheat yourself out of the learning process of {plan>perform>fucking up>evaluate>perform better> result}. Legitimacy is a strong asset. There may come a time when you're required to replace the star player for a game. Make sure your game face is on when that time comes.
Alternatively, you would have developed enough currency to move on to better things by then.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

In any work or social situation, the way you are perceived and the way you play group politics is as important or more important than your actual ability and work output. Previous posts have commented how someone can be perceived as good, but actually suck.
This is a double edged sword. As men, we want to have authentic excellence, and we don't want to seek to be a successful scam artist. On the other hand, we're fine with trying to DHV to attract a woman. Everybody agrees inner game is important for pickup, but we don't stop there. We use outer game as best we can to approach and close the hottest women we can get.
It's the same in work or group settings. If someone else is better at something, learn how to play the group dynamics.
For example, you might be able to associate yourself with that other person in a way that uses his skill to create positive leverage that benefits you. Alternately, if he is a rival, you can downplay his skill, and play up your own, either in the same area, or in an area where you are stronger. It's all social dynamics, whether dealing with women, or any other work or social setting.

[infowarrior1]

As long as you can continue to grow and improve. You shouldn't have a problem. But if there is someone better than you then its good to befriend them and learn from them so that you can take some of the greatness of that person and have it for yourself.

[Jackreacher]

(11-20-2014 04:13 PM)harveyspecter Wrote:  

How do you deal when someone in your area is better than you or not even better but seen as better in eyes of your boss or in eyes of other people.

Just a general question I'm interesting to see an answer in a 'red pill' way of thinking.

I don't know, I don't really put myself in a position of having a boss. I find it very unnatural to me, personally. If someone is better than me at something I almost always see it as an advantage because if I'm better then anyone around me at a given task or job then that means I will have to do it or keep an eye on someone doing it, if I want it done right. So that's one more thing I'll have to do or monitor. I'll always aspire to be surrounded by people better then me in many different areas, the rewards of doing this are simply too good to pass up. You will also learn much more from people who are better then you if necessary. Get rid of the boss as soon as you can so you don't feel the need to filter how you perceive yourself through the eyes of your boss. Be your own man.

[Quintus Curtius]

No matter how good you are at something, there will always be someone better. This is part of life. You have to look past such things, and not be obsessed with comparing yourself to others. Fixating on other people is fruitless, exhausting, and demeaning.

Envy is one of my favorite deadly sins. He used to be a constant companion. He still hovers over my shoulder, every now and then; but I've learned how to put him in a choke hold when he gets too strident for attention.

Getting stressed out about such things is pointless. Instead of focusing on things you have no control of, your focus should be on making yourself the best person you can be.

Focus on yourself. Are you doing everything you can do to be the best you can be? This is the right question to ask.

[Dantes]

I'm not the best in my profession but I'm very good. I have the capacity to become more successful and reach the top echelone but is it worth the investment ? This would require sacrificing other areas of my life that I derive fulfillment from.

I made a decision early in my career to become successful but never at the expense of giving up a balanced life. It is an excercise in cost benefit. Everything comes with a price. A balanced life is what gives me fullfilment not being the best at work.

[Arado]

Some great responses here. Just one other thought: we are all essentially just a bag of chemicals. You as an individual ego don't exist. There is no free will, only chemical simulations. If something is really bugging you try to look into spirituality. Envy and constant comparisons will just break you down over the long run.

Anyway, in 20 years when AI surpasses human intelligence there won't be anything left for people to be proud of. At that point I doubt you're gonna be jealous of a robot!

[The Beast1]

Focus on your deficiencies and foster your strengths. Envy will destroy your process of building.

[VincentVinturi]

I was at the gym today.

I watched wide-eyed as an enormous Kiwi fucker, and an Australian lad with the physique of a tree trunk, took turns squatting nearly double what I deadlift on a 1-rep max.

...front squatting.

"fuck me!" I thought, "I have a loooong way to go".

And then I got back to work.