Quote: (11-15-2014 01:46 PM)Ocelot Wrote:
Quote: (11-15-2014 01:04 PM)ABCDEFGH Wrote:
Quote: (11-15-2014 08:29 AM)Ocelot Wrote:
At the same time, we need banners to march under and slogans/buzzwords. The important thing is to make sure they're appealing to the average guy, and to the people on the fence. A big problem with calling our opponents "Social Justice Warriors" is that, whilst it might sound demeaning to us, the majority of the general public associates the term "social justice" with positive things.
I agree with this. It is important that they are seen as bad guys in every way, so that no one wants to be associated with them.
Moral authoritarians and cultural marxists (some feel this one is misleading) are the other names I see used.
Maybe a name that makes you think of a cult or something else that most americans will distance themselves from.
Cultural Marxist is about as useful a term as "Reactionary", i.e. not very. It's only beneficial in political discourse with people who already agree with your narrative. The only thing "Cultural Marxism" will bring to mind for most people is impassioned Fox News presenters on their soapbox. Not good.
Terms like "Progressive" and "Liberal" for instance, are very well thought out. They sound like good things from the start, even if you don't know what they mean. Everyone likes progress! Everyone likes being able to do what they want!
Personally, I think any name we choose to fly under needs to emphasise freedom, liberty, dignity etc., as these are all fundamentally good things that feminists/SJWs seek to destroy. Likewise, any pejoratives describing feminists/SJWs should emphasise their neurosis, authoritarianism and mental ill-health. These are things which merit serious discussion, but are best done in private. At this stage, it would do more harm than good if a new buzzword was seen to originate from this corner of the internet.
To me the thing about criticizing the genius's shirt that is obnoxious, if described accurately, is something like ... I don't know..."counterproductive censorship" , "political censorship" or "petty censorship"-- "mindless censorship"? It's also insensitive to him, who had a shirt he liked and was made uncomfortable for no good reason lol.
A poetry major criticizing the astrophysics genius was a perfect example.
Not that poetry isn't something great, but she wasn't acting as a poet, she was acting as a political hack.
Great talent who must have busted ass to have any idea how to achieve what he did, hassled by someone making some idiotically petty criticism to push her agenda to the front.
I however do NOT think it's smart to try to denigrate the arts and humanities in this case. She's just an idiot trying to advocate censorship of some kind.
However one's terminology depends on what goals you have. If one really wants to be a "provocateur", you can you use highly charged terms that trigger some negative reactions, if part of your purpose to to more or less force people to take notice of the debate, however, as stated above, you may be trading off some moderate mindshare in exchange for larger overall mindshare.
