[ball dont lie]

In my early 30's, holy shit it gotbad FAST!

I go back to a midwest city that is known but not famous. The females I used to know in high school ALL are fucking huge. Not overweight, but nasty, crazy fat. A couple guys I know have married well, in that their wives are not overweight, but they married down. The girls arent that good looking, but cook well, are good moms and are thin.

A girl I used to pine for, a guy I know fucked for a few years and they broke up. Now she is fat, big stomach but massive tits, I remember her at 20-22. Dear god, she could have married a doctor or a lawyer. She has a great personality, feminine enough but likes to have fun too. Now its all gone and everyday its worse for her. Lots of betas who pined for her are lining up and she was all about being around me when I went back last summer. HAHAHAHAH

[modus_operandi]

You mean that hot girl back in the day that used to shut down every guy that tried to get with her now has to beg for anyone to service her musty mud flapped hole? Yeah I believe that's Karma.

[el mechanico]

(11-09-2014 10:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

What until you get to my age... Facebook becomes a beauty graveyard. It's sad.

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[Samseau]

The wall is only tragic if they hit the wall childless.

If a woman has children, then who cares if she hits the wall? Her purpose in life has been completed. Children are how a woman conquers the wall. Children are how humans conquer death.

But a childless woman who hits the wall? There is no redemption, there is no future. Her decay will accelerate until she's dead. And any men who knew her when she was young will be the last people on earth to remember what she once had, never to be seen again.

[The Beast1]

Sigh, it's threads like this that make me want to wait until i'm in my late 30s , early 40s to get married.

I still want to get married, but it would have to be with a girl in her early twenties or late teens. Ideally, snag her up before she hits college and send her to some finishing school.

I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

[kaotic]

I see this everyday damn day on social media with stupid hashtags like #waybackwednesday #throwbackthursday #flashbackfriday

The older these attention whores get the more and more they rely on old pictures.

It's a sad sight but all these girls who think they're hot shit keep getting older and all I've been doing is:

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-10-2014 11:27 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The wall is only tragic if they hit the wall childless.

If a woman has children, then who cares if she hits the wall? Her purpose in life has been completed. Children are how a woman conquers the wall. Children are how humans conquer death.

But a childless woman who hits the wall? There is no redemption, there is no future. Her decay will accelerate until she's dead. And any men who knew her when she was young will be the last people on earth to remember what she once had, never to be seen again.

I am afraid Samseau that you are missing the sea of carousel riding single mothers up until their end 40s as cougars and pumas.

A child only protects them against the impact of the wall if they are still more or less happily married with husband and child. I see some of my exes being like that. In fact I speak with one or two occasionally because they are great girls & friends now - I had them when they were 19 and 20 and now they are mid 30s, happily married and have children.

While they are sometimes a bit ashamed that I meet girls much younger and they don't look so hot anymore, they are still very happy due to "having it all". And that having it all is not a career or the "freedom" of slutting it up in a nightclub every weekend as a 36 year old.

@Frenchie it is - I've had 19yo girls in EE express that interest to me - I am in that age-range. But marrying in our current climate is truly not necessary & rather careless.

[Samseau]

(11-10-2014 12:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:27 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The wall is only tragic if they hit the wall childless.

If a woman has children, then who cares if she hits the wall? Her purpose in life has been completed. Children are how a woman conquers the wall. Children are how humans conquer death.

But a childless woman who hits the wall? There is no redemption, there is no future. Her decay will accelerate until she's dead. And any men who knew her when she was young will be the last people on earth to remember what she once had, never to be seen again.

I am afraid Samseau that you are missing the sea of carousel riding single mothers up until their end 40s as cougars and pumas.

A child only protects them against the impact of the wall if they are still more or less happily married with husband and child. I see some of my exes being like that. In fact I speak with one or two occasionally because they are great girls & friends now - I had them when they were 19 and 20 and now they are mid 30s, happily married and have children.

While they are sometimes a bit ashamed that I meet girls much younger and they don't look so hot anymore, they are still very happy due to "having it all". And that having it all is not a career or the "freedom" of slutting it up in a nightclub every weekend as a 36 year old.

@Frenchie it is - I've had 19yo girls in EE express that interest to me - I am in that age-range. But marrying in our current climate is truly not necessary & rather careless.

Even a single mother has lived up more to her potential than a dried up spinster. Still, I do feel bad for the children of a single mom.

[The Beast1]

(11-10-2014 12:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

@Frenchie it is - I've had 19yo girls in EE express that interest to me - I am in that age-range. But marrying in our current climate is truly not necessary & rather careless.

I figured i would probably have to live in EE to score some of these girls. I was hoping I could pull that off in the anglosphere though

[Ternarydemonite]

It is much more worse if you knew them since 18. Some girls who rejected me at such age, I would not approach them now that they are 29-31.

Ironically, if I were to approach them today, they would likely reject me again since: I would use Game on them instead of the beta provider approach they desperately need now. They are shopping for a husband, some in panic mode, and by now they know they can't waste time being pumped without a ring in their hand.

As for the guys I knew at college, most are fatter, balder and unkempt but, theoretically, if they divorced today (early 30s), with six months of heavy diet, gym and Red Pill reading, they would greatly increase their SMV and return to market. That would not be true for most women.

[Nomad77]

I once went and tracked down one of the most beautiful girls I dated in high school on facebook and regretted it. Since then, I never go back to the past, better to keep the memories you have than to destroy them with reality.

[General Stalin]

To answer the question in the OP - I don't feel one single morsel of sympathy or pity for all the girls I did't work out with that are falling apart. I'm a cynical and vindictive son of a bitch, and seeing those narcissistic delusional broads spiral around the drain brings me shameless and child-like joy. I keep getting better and that's all that matters.

[Samseau]

(11-10-2014 01:51 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

To answer the question in the OP - I don't feel one single morsel of sympathy or pity for all the girls I did't work out with that are falling apart. I'm a cynical and vindictive son of a bitch, and seeing those narcissistic delusional broads spiral around the drain brings me shameless and child-like joy. I keep getting better and that's all that matters.

You take after your avatar!

[Kilgo]

It can be interesting/sad to look at a woman's photos on Facebook, especially when that woman has hit the wall. She gets progressively younger and better-looking as you work in reverse chronological order.

[philosophical_recovery]

I see it on facebook and in real life as well. Around the social groups I frequent, I sometimes go gaps of a few months to a few years of not seeing a mid 20s girl. Then, I see her again, and I pity the effects of father time.

Before knowledge of game I had a voice in the back of my head, maybe from my father, that overwhelmed all blue pill thought processes and made me eject from every relationship with the girls I dated that were only a year or so younger than me (or same age) when I was in my 20s. I look back, and don't regret a single one of them now. I was even good at picking girls that aged well without putting on a lot of weight.

I'm wondering when my own SMV will peak, because barring massive injury at 30 I have plenty of room to get better, and I'm lifting more weight than I ever have before, have more confidence, etc. But, I will have my own expiration date, eventually. Unless I strike it big and make $$$$$

[ryanf]

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Sigh, it's threads like this that make me want to wait until i'm in my late 30s , early 40s to get married.

I still want to get married, but it would have to be with a girl in her early twenties or late teens. Ideally, snag her up before she hits college and send her to some finishing school.

I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

[runsonmagic]

(11-10-2014 10:12 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Sigh, it's threads like this that make me want to wait until i'm in my late 30s , early 40s to get married.

I still want to get married, but it would have to be with a girl in her early twenties or late teens. Ideally, snag her up before she hits college and send her to some finishing school.

I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

Inspiring. Truly the future holds great things for us.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-10-2014 10:12 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

...
I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

Of course it is possible for a more dominant Alpha guy to find a very young girl for marriage even in the West. What is holding back more men from doing it is the shaming by the feminine imperative in our society. That's why only famous or very wealthy men get a pass (and even they are shamed a bit and teeth are being gritted by the combined herd of old hags). In the East it is more common - in some countries hardly anyone is batting an eyelash.

[spi]

(11-10-2014 10:12 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

Just out of interest, where is the wife from, anglosphere?

[Samseau]

(11-11-2014 02:18 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:12 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

...
I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

Of course it is possible for a more dominant Alpha guy to find a very young girl for marriage even in the West. What is holding back more men from doing it is the shaming by the feminine imperative in our society. That's why only famous or very wealthy men get a pass (and even they are shamed a bit and teeth are being gritted by the combined herd of old hags). In the East it is more common - in some countries hardly anyone is batting an eyelash.

It's not just shaming that stops men. It's also the possibility of getting divorce raped. Although, at age 40, the risk of divorce rape may be worth it for an 18 year old wife.

[CodyB]

(11-10-2014 06:16 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

Also it's surprising how fast girls can hit the wall and how quick this can happen.

2 years ago I met this Thai chick, 38 y.o., still fresh and bangable, and gave awesome sex. I was 2 years without seeing her for some reason, and I saw her last week. She hit the wall pretty hard, and it's sad for her, still no kids and biological clock ticking. The Wall had swallowed her.

I would call it the 'Asian wall'. Asian women remain firm, sometimes into their 50s! But then they quickly hit their wall and it's like a high speed impact. While they are pro-longing youth to a certain degree, each year they go faster and faster until they hit it. And the carnage happens almost instantly, as opposed to a slower more gradual wall-hitting(? seriously running out of clever analogies)

I grew up in an Anglo-Australian area with low educational attainment, blue collar attitudes and the attitudes that accompany it. At 26 I see my friends, male & female look 10 years older than me. Many of them have children in primary school. My brother, 2 years younger than me, has kids and I saw some grey whiskers on his chin and he's obese.

[Ryan James]

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Sigh, it's threads like this that make me want to wait until i'm in my late 30s , early 40s to get married.

I still want to get married, but it would have to be with a girl in her early twenties or late teens. Ideally, snag her up before she hits college and send her to some finishing school.

I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

Wayne Lineker is 52 and his girlfriend is 19. So the answer is YES.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-11-2014 09:35 AM)Ryan James Wrote:  

...
Wayne Lineker is 52 and his girlfriend is 19. So the answer is YES.

There are even older guys, but Lineker clearly shows that the girl might very well also find him sexually attractive and exciting - he is in great shape, dresses r-selected, has some bad-boy accessories and is very likely a strong Alpha. His fame has waned and his money is probably there to a degree, but that alone does not generate long-term pussy-tingles. Game recognized - that's how 50yo blokes should look like.

[Ryan James]

(11-11-2014 09:48 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:35 AM)Ryan James Wrote:  

...
Wayne Lineker is 52 and his girlfriend is 19. So the answer is YES.

There are even older guys, but Lineker clearly shows that the girl might very well also find him sexually attractive and exciting - he is in great shape, dresses r-selected, has some bad-boy accessories and is very likely a strong Alpha. His fame has waned and his money is probably there to a degree, but that alone does not generate long-term pussy-tingles. Game recognized - that's how 50yo blokes should look like.

Agreed, he owns a lot of bars/nigthclubs in Ibiza, Majorca etc.. so he's set his life up well were he's around young, hot Women. We can all learn a thing from this dude. No doubt he's on TRT & HGH but who gives a fuck I'm going to get on it at some stage too

[The Beast1]

(11-10-2014 10:12 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:38 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

Sigh, it's threads like this that make me want to wait until i'm in my late 30s , early 40s to get married.

I still want to get married, but it would have to be with a girl in her early twenties or late teens. Ideally, snag her up before she hits college and send her to some finishing school.

I wonder if it would be possible for a 38-40 year old man to wife up a girl who is only 18/19.

My dad did it. 11 years later, they are still together and doing well. Guess what? He isn't rich. He isn't tall. He isn't model good looking. But he runs the show.

Can you tell a story? I would love to hear how they met and how the whole thing played out.