[Simeon_Strangelight]

So I popped the question she started crying, said my timing was awful and told me what was going on.

Heh - when a woman says my timing is awful she means - "I just fucked a guy - in fact I have still his sperm in my stomach."

After much discussion she said sorry no, as she seems to have something special with a new guy. I did not know that in the 6 weeks I had no contact with her, she has split with the BF but now met someone new. She got chatted up in town and they 'hit it off'!

Her being 40 and having been approached on the street by some guy means that she is Asian, is in excellent shape and maybe was approached by an Alpha - though an older one.

I think its crazy that she would put a man shes has known 5 minutes before me with all our 10 years + of history!

Does not matter for women - we have a saying here - 5 minutes of Alpha is worth 5 years of Beta. Though I would rather say it is more 5 days of Alpha vs. 5 years of Beta, then the comparison is correct. Women really desire a true Alpha that much more. Although in her case due to her advanced age (40!) she is already moving into the security phase and a wealthy Beta is beginning to be by far more interesting than an exciting Alpha for her.

Everything rest of your post are just your rationalizations. She proposed to you - wtf?

Dating at 41 is no biggie - if you look younger you can even get 20-year-olds. Go learn Game, brush up on Red Pill - after you have banged the first hot 19-24 year old, you will not crave that 40yo one anymore.

[fmman]

(01-01-2015 10:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Her being 40 and having been approached on the street by some guy means that she is Asian, is in excellent shape and maybe was approached by an Alpha - though an older one.

Good perception. You are nearly right. Shes not Asian, but she's not English. She's of mediterranean origin. She's a pretty girl, with a cute ass who looks younger than she is. I've no idea if this guy is an alpha or a beta but again you are right he is quite a bit older. No idea about his social status or if he has money etc. He must be thinking he hit the jackpot with her at his age.

And she really did ask me to marry her on a leap year. I turned her down

[fmman]

(01-01-2015 08:54 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

fmman, welcome to the forum.

(01-01-2015 08:00 AM)fmman Wrote:  

I think its crazy that she would put a man shes has known 5 minutes before me with all our 10 years + of history! Had I asked her just weeks before she admits she would have said yes.

You're making a strong assumption that "she would have said yes"; that has a basis which is manufactured in your mind, not reality. You never assume a girl says yes. When you do you put all your eggs in one basket and just gave it to her to drop at any moment. And you put an already inflated ego on the line. This is why self development is important. Simple but effective example is working out. You can always make an assumption that it will give you a better body because it's about YOU, not your view of someone else.

There's another assumption. You can find many girls like her and possibly even better. When you say "no other girl has come close," is that because you've been approaching girls or is that an assumption? See what I mean. You're letting your mind fuck you over.

No is the simple answer. She didn't love you. Get over it, please. Otherwise, you will not only waste posts on the forum but also your own sanity and dignity.

No she is lying then, she says she has always loved me. And says its my fault for splitting with her 2 years ago.

I'm going by the fact that out of the 6 girls I have been with since I've known her, none apart from one of them gave sex anywhere close to the quality of it with her.


Yes I know I have ignored the previous advice. I guess the urge to do the 'happily ever after" thing was too great. I also felt that if I ask her at least this will have put a conclusion to it once and for all either way. I wanted all the many years of my life with woman to count for something if she had accepted. Now it looks as though I have wasted all these years for nothing. I can pull myself together and get out there dating. But I fear that the usual cycle will happen. 6 months time I will have a gf, she will have split up with her bf and she'll be contacting me again, As usual we will end up shagging. Another gf gone...

[fmman]

(01-01-2015 08:54 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

fmman, welcome to the forum.

(01-01-2015 08:00 AM)fmman Wrote:  

I think its crazy that she would put a man shes has known 5 minutes before me with all our 10 years + of history! Had I asked her just weeks before she admits she would have said yes.

You're making a strong assumption that "she would have said yes"; that has a basis which is manufactured in your mind, not reality. You never assume a girl says yes. When you do you put all you
r eggs in one basket and just gave it to her to drop at any moment. And you put an already inflated ego on the line. This is why self development is important. Simple but effective example is working out. You can always make an assumption that it will give you a better body because it's about YOU, not your view of someone else.

There's another assumption. You can find many girls like her and possibly even better. When you say "no other girl has come close," is that because you've been approaching girls or is that an assumption? See what I mean. You're letting your mind fuck you over.

No is the simple answer. She didn't love you. Get over it, please. Otherwise, you will not only waste posts on the forum but also your own sanity and dignity.

No she is lying then, she says she has always loved me. She blames me for letting her go two years ago. Because I was getting pressure of trying for a child from her and I felt I was being used as a sperm supply rather than a bf. I wouldn't do it.

I'm going by the fact that out of the 6 girls I have been with since I've known her, none apart from one of them gave sex anywhere close to the quality of it with her.


Yes I know I have ignored the previous advice. I guess the urge to do the 'happily ever after" thing was too great. I also felt that if I ask her at least this will have put a conclusion to it once and for all either way. I wanted all the many years of my life with woman to count for something if she had accepted. Now it looks as though I have wasted all these years for nothing. I can pull myself together and get out there dating. But I fear that the usual cycle will happen. 6 months time I will have a gf, she will have split up with her bf and she'll be contacting me again, As usual we will end up shagging. Another gf gone...

[urbannomad]

[Cobra]

Not sure anyone here can help you at this point man.

[amity]

"I'm going by the fact that out of the 6 girls I have been with since I've known her, none apart from one of them gave sex anywhere close to the quality of it with her."

Dude, that may be true but all you're doing is putting that pussy on the pedastal.
The best lay of my life was a woman I craved for a long time afterwards, purely cos of the sex, nothing else!
It almost ruined my life cos I allowed one woman's pussy and nice body to seep into my mind.
Honestly, there was almost nothing else I could recommend about her, indeed I've never met a girl so lacking in empathy.
FB/FWB is where it started off, and it's where I should've left it.
The moment I decided to make it a relationship, the wheels came off, I turned into a beta bitch, idolising a woman who had tasted more cocks than I've tasted hot dinners.
Don't be that guy.

[Lizard King]

(01-01-2015 01:21 PM)fmman Wrote:  

No she is lying then, she says she has always loved me. She blames me for letting her go two years ago. Because I was getting pressure of trying for a child from her and I felt I was being used as a sperm supply rather than a bf. I wouldn't do it.

I'm going by the fact that out of the 6 girls I have been with since I've known her, none apart from one of them gave sex anywhere close to the quality of it with her.


Yes I know I have ignored the previous advice. I guess the urge to do the 'happily ever after" thing was too great. I also felt that if I ask her at least this will have put a conclusion to it once and for all either way. I wanted all the many years of my life with woman to count for something if she had accepted. Now it looks as though I have wasted all these years for nothing. I can pull myself together and get out there dating. But I fear that the usual cycle will happen. 6 months time I will have a gf, she will have split up with her bf and she'll be contacting me again, As usual we will end up shagging. Another gf gone...

She 'says' she loves you, but her actions speak differently.

Your situation is a good example of the maxim: Men love romantically, women love conditionally.

Rollo Tomassi articulates the concept well: http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/10/men-in-love/

More on the same idea here: http://www.returnofkings.com/44445/thoug...ional-love

You still have feelings for her(romantic), she is fucking someone else(who meets her conditions).

[fmman]

(01-02-2015 04:17 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

She 'says' she loves you, but her actions speak differently.

Your situation is a good example of the maxim: Men love romantically, women love conditionally.

Rollo Tomassi articulates the concept well: http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/10/men-in-love/

More on the same idea here: http://www.returnofkings.com/44445/thoug...ional-love

You still have feelings for her(romantic), she is fucking someone else(who meets her conditions).

Interesting articles. So this girl has filled my head with all her romantic notions and I thought I had learnt about love from her. In reality all she did was send me down the path to emotional ruin. This person whom I thought was such an amazing girl is full of flaws and has selfish agenda. I am slowly waking up.

[nadaSurf20]

Thank Darwin, you found this forum man. I just have one thing to say RUN! There is no way this is a good deal, let this girl adopt a child or do her own thing. But don't let her trap you.

[RUIN]

While the OP has gotten off the hook (no baby thank F***) I have my own minute's silence for the many, MANY men who have not been so lucky and had to bring themselves through being a cuckold.

OP - Consider yourself fortunate, count your blessings and please do not make the same mistake again.