[bojangles]

I have an indian name and I use it.

No accent, I'm british, so I sound like James Bond motherfuckers

[WalterBlack]

(11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

This thread seems basically to boil down to two basic pieces of advice:

1) Improve your outer and inner game - workout, dress well, learn game, don't be creepy, reject limiting beliefs about race
2) Become as Americanized/Westernized as possible (including changing your name! What?) This one is a bit contradictory because on the one hand we're supposed to be proud of our ethnicity but at the same time shed some aspects of it....

It’s not about being westernized, it’s about fitting in and not doing anything which makes you look retarded or gay.

• In India random strangers will look you right in the eye and stare at you, and not look away. This is considered rude in western countries.
• In India straight male friends will walk down the street holding hands with their friends. Do not do this in the west – it’s considered gay
• Many FOB Indian males dress appallingly, even Bollywood stars. They need to dress well.
• Many FOB Indian men also have appalling hairstyles. They need to get decent haircuts.
• Moustaches are considered gay by many westerners, or a throwback to the 70s if you’re a hipster. Avoid, or be very careful how you style them.
• Indians names can be OK in a western country, as long as they are short and easy to pronounce. North Indian names tend to be short, so it’s not an issue. South Indian names tend to be long so should be shortened.
• Many FOB Indians do have bad hygiene or smell bad. In order to avoid this, cook Indian food in a well ventilated room and never let these smells get anywhere near your clothes. They should use deodorant and breath mints.
• Stop being thirsty around women. Do not pedestalise them.
  

I couldn’t speak English until I was about 5 years old, even though I was born and raised in UK. I’m very much in touch with my Indian heritage and I visited India earlier this year. I’m not ashamed to be Indian, in fact I’m proud of it. I just don’t act like a retard.

(11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

Any advice for Indians living in East Asia? I'd say the Indian/White dude perception gap (in terms of how local girls react to guys) is much more severe here than in the West (maybe Japan is an exception?), which at least has to pretend to care about tolerance/diversity/multiculturalism etc....

In Asia, even the most Americanized Indian dude still has to "prove," he's American in most East Asian countries. And there's still some pretty backwards beliefs about skin color here.

I'm not being a troll, just trying to get some solid advice. Points #1 and #2 above have been hammered since the beginning of the forum but in order to hit the higher levels of game I think some better brown dude specific advice is needed, esp when living outside the West.

For East Asia – I’ve been to China, Hong Kong, Thailand and Japan.

I was only there for a few days, and the only country I tried to pull women was Japan.

China - I was in Shenzhen and I got stared at everywhere I went. I wouldn’t call it eye fucking, more curiosity. A Chinese woman at the hotel said to me in English, “I like your skin colour” she then stroked my arm and said “You’ve got hair on your arms, Chinese men don’t have hair on their arms”. I was being a bit dumb and didn’t follow up on it. I should have invited her to my room. FOB Chinese women LOVE it if you start talking about anything Chinese related, like food, culture or language. I’ve banged a few FOB Chinese women in the US because of this. A lot of Chinese think Indians are poor, smelly and beggars. Be well dressed and they won’t think that.

One Chinese woman I was banging in the US told her mother that she was seeing an Indian guy. Her mother said, ”Does he smell bad?” She said “No he doesn’t. Do you think the Buddha smelled?” Her mum said “OK, OK..that’s fine” and she shut up. Her mum is a hardcore Buddhist.

Thailand – Thais would never say this to your face, but many of them hate Indian people. Indians have a reputation of being cheap - some of them even try to get discounts from whores! Don’t come across as cheap. I was with a bunch of American people are we were hanging out in red light areas. I don’t do p4p but I just wanted to see what was going on there. One crazy sight I saw was an Indian guy walking down the street holding an Indian woman’s hand (probably his wife), and the Indian woman was holding the hand of a Thai woman. I guess there was threesome that night!

I have an Indian friend who's married to a Thai 7.5. . She said Thai women are open to Indian men, but the Indians in Thailand tend to import women from India, and not marry Thai women.

Japan – There’s almost zero Indians there, but one thing I did was on my phone, using Google translate I wrote in Japanese “My parents are from India, I was born and raised in UK. I live in Los Angeles in America”. I literally pulled out my phone and showed this to the Japanese people. They got who I was straight away. I didn’t want them to think I was from India. I fear for the image of Indians in Japan because the Indians I did see were badly dressed IT/Engineering nerds. I did see a few well dressed Indian guys with hot Japanese girls. Again, be well dressed and I think learning some Japanese is essential. As with the Chinese, Japanese women LOVE it if you know anything about their culture. My Japan trip is here.

Hong Kong – I didn’t go out and try and pull any women there, but most of the Hong Kongers thought I was a local. They would try to speak to me in Cantonese whenever I walked into a store. I’m not sure if you know this already, but there’s been an Indian population in Hong Kong for over 100 years, and many of them do speak Cantonese. I wasn’t very impressed with the women in Hong Kong. The hottest woman I saw in Hong Kong was a Latina in Lan Kwai Fong.

[Brian Shima]

Guys dont take this the wrong way but I have noticed a lot Indian guys are extremely rude and give nasty looks to other minorities yet are the complete opposite to whites. Common behavior or am I imagining things? On the flip side I have met some nice ones who are just awkward and need guidance from someone like cobra!!

[kaotic]

(11-11-2014 07:19 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Guys dont take this the wrong way but I have noticed a lot Indian guys are extremely rude and give nasty looks to other minorities yet are the complete opposite to whites. Common behavior or am I imagining things? On the flip side I have met some nice ones who are just awkward and need guidance from someone like cobra!!

I wouldn't say prevalent, but racism is there. I know some of my family doesn't like blacks or mexicans, some can't stand whites either.

Maybe it's the group of guys you hangout with ?

Racism is everywhere.

[Brian Shima]

I dont hang out with any Indian guys I was just saying what I have experienced as a minority in dealing with them

[kaotic]

(11-11-2014 08:03 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

I dont hang out with any Indian guys I was just saying what I have experienced as a minority in dealing with them

Where are you witnessing this ? What is the age (estimate) group ? Any specific type of indians ?

I'm curious to know.

[Arado]

(11-11-2014 01:36 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

This thread seems basically to boil down to two basic pieces of advice:

1) Improve your outer and inner game - workout, dress well, learn game, don't be creepy, reject limiting beliefs about race
2) Become as Americanized/Westernized as possible (including changing your name! What?) This one is a bit contradictory because on the one hand we're supposed to be proud of our ethnicity but at the same time shed some aspects of it....

It’s not about being westernized, it’s about fitting in and not doing anything which makes you look retarded or gay.

• In India random strangers will look you right in the eye and stare at you, and not look away. This is considered rude in western countries.
• In India straight male friends will walk down the street holding hands with their friends. Do not do this in the west – it’s considered gay
• Many FOB Indian males dress appallingly, even Bollywood stars. They need to dress well.
• Many FOB Indian men also have appalling hairstyles. They need to get decent haircuts.
• Moustaches are considered gay by many westerners, or a throwback to the 70s if you’re a hipster. Avoid, or be very careful how you style them.
• Indians names can be OK in a western country, as long as they are short and easy to pronounce. North Indian names tend to be short, so it’s not an issue. South Indian names tend to be long so should be shortened.
• Many FOB Indians do have bad hygiene or smell bad. In order to avoid this, cook Indian food in a well ventilated room and never let these smells get anywhere near your clothes. They should use deodorant and breath mints.
• Stop being thirsty around women. Do not pedestalise them.
  

I couldn’t speak English until I was about 5 years old, even though I was born and raised in UK. I’m very much in touch with my Indian heritage and I visited India earlier this year. I’m not ashamed to be Indian, in fact I’m proud of it. I just don’t act like a retard.

(11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

Any advice for Indians living in East Asia? I'd say the Indian/White dude perception gap (in terms of how local girls react to guys) is much more severe here than in the West (maybe Japan is an exception?), which at least has to pretend to care about tolerance/diversity/multiculturalism etc....

In Asia, even the most Americanized Indian dude still has to "prove," he's American in most East Asian countries. And there's still some pretty backwards beliefs about skin color here.

I'm not being a troll, just trying to get some solid advice. Points #1 and #2 above have been hammered since the beginning of the forum but in order to hit the higher levels of game I think some better brown dude specific advice is needed, esp when living outside the West.

For East Asia – I’ve been to China, Hong Kong, Thailand and Japan.

I was only there for a few days, and the only country I tried to pull women was Japan.

China - I was in Shenzhen and I got stared at everywhere I went. I wouldn’t call it eye fucking, more curiosity. A Chinese woman at the hotel said to me in English, “I like your skin colour” she then stroked my arm and said “You’ve got hair on your arms, Chinese men don’t have hair on their arms”. I was being a bit dumb and didn’t follow up on it. I should have invited her to my room. FOB Chinese women LOVE it if you start talking about anything Chinese related, like food, culture or language. I’ve banged a few FOB Chinese women in the US because of this. A lot of Chinese think Indians are poor, smelly and beggars. Be well dressed and they won’t think that.

One Chinese woman I was banging in the US told her mother that she was seeing an Indian guy. Her mother said, ”Does he smell bad?” She said “No he doesn’t. Do you think the Buddha smelled?” Her mum said “OK, OK..that’s fine” and she shut up. Her mum is a hardcore Buddhist.

Thailand – Thais would never say this to your face, but many of them hate Indian people. Indians have a reputation of being cheap - some of them even try to get discounts from whores! Don’t come across as cheap. I was with a bunch of American people are we were hanging out in red light areas. I don’t do p4p but I just wanted to see what was going on there. One crazy sight I saw was an Indian guy walking down the street holding an Indian woman’s hand (probably his wife), and the Indian woman was holding the hand of a Thai woman. I guess there was threesome that night!

I have an Indian friend who's married to a Thai 7.5. . She said Thai women are open to Indian men, but the Indians in Thailand tend to import women from India, and not marry Thai women.

Japan – There’s almost zero Indians there, but one thing I did was on my phone, using Google translate I wrote in Japanese “My parents are from India, I was born and raised in UK. I live in Los Angeles in America”. I literally pulled out my phone and showed this to the Japanese people. They got who I was straight away. I didn’t want them to think I was from India. I fear for the image of Indians in Japan because the Indians I did see were badly dressed IT/Engineering nerds. I did see a few well dressed Indian guys with hot Japanese girls. Again, be well dressed and I think learning some Japanese is essential. As with the Chinese, Japanese women LOVE it if you know anything about their culture. My Japan trip is here.

Hong Kong – I didn’t go out and try and pull any women there, but most of the Hong Kongers thought I was a local. They would try to speak to me in Cantonese whenever I walked into a store. I’m not sure if you know this already, but there’s been an Indian population in Hong Kong for over 100 years, and many of them do speak Cantonese. I wasn’t very impressed with the women in Hong Kong. The hottest woman I saw in Hong Kong was a Latina in Lan Kwai Fong.

Ok, this info is well intentioned but, with all due respect, not earth shattering. The list you provide is good for FOBs straight from India but not very useful for American born Indians - few of us who have been involved with game for a decent amount of time will still be committing basic creepy errors like that.

Regarding reactions in other countries, it looks like a mixed bag depending on the country. In some countries the first impression is a barrier to overcome, and yes, I got the dress well part. Apart from that, are there any other tips to short-circuit the anti-Indian stereotypes?

This is totally about Westernization - meeting people off the bat saying that you are Westernized and not an Indian from India? If that's not distancing yourself from India I don't know what is. Not that I'm hating - I'm American and do the exact same thing too when I'm abroad (emphasize my Americanness and downplay the Indian aspect). Maybe I'm looking for a way to distinguish myself without looking try hard?

[playharder123]

I am Indian. I rate my look 5, with right dress 6 5. I had good time in Poland. I live in Germany with my wife and use every opportunity to travel. In Germany game is tough and race don't help as well.

If I found this forum on 2008, would not have married. I don't regret marriage because it's not going good I regret because by body wants different women.

I use my race as advantage. I do yoga, I never pulled using yoga as tool. But my next trip yoga will be used extensively to pull

Outside of pickup. If you read well the real india. You will be proud of it. I am.

[bojangles]

(11-11-2014 07:19 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Guys dont take this the wrong way but I have noticed a lot Indian guys are extremely rude and give nasty looks to other minorities yet are the complete opposite to whites. Common behavior or am I imagining things? On the flip side I have met some nice ones who are just awkward and need guidance from someone like cobra!!

It's genetic. Indians have always looked down on anyone not Indian for over 3000 years. It's an Aryan complex is what it is.

Indians are not racists towards whites because the whites conquered us. Everyone else is beneath us though (not my words but what I've heard from plenty of indian mouths)

[Deluge]

(11-12-2014 09:09 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 07:19 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Guys dont take this the wrong way but I have noticed a lot Indian guys are extremely rude and give nasty looks to other minorities yet are the complete opposite to whites. Common behavior or am I imagining things? On the flip side I have met some nice ones who are just awkward and need guidance from someone like cobra!!

It's genetic. Indians have always looked down on anyone not Indian for over 3000 years. It's an Aryan complex is what it is.

Indians are not racists towards whites because the whites conquered us. Everyone else is beneath us though (not my words but what I've heard from plenty of indian mouths)

(Non-Muslim) Desi 1st generation immigrants don't like Muslims, Blacks and lower class Whites, in that order.

[WalterBlack]

(11-12-2014 03:49 AM)ao85 Wrote:  

Ok, this info is well intentioned but, with all due respect, not earth shattering. The list you provide is good for FOBs straight from India but not very useful for American born Indians - few of us who have been involved with game for a decent amount of time will still be committing basic creepy errors like that.

Regarding reactions in other countries, it looks like a mixed bag depending on the country. In some countries the first impression is a barrier to overcome, and yes, I got the dress well part. Apart from that, are there any other tips to short-circuit the anti-Indian stereotypes?

This is totally about Westernization - meeting people off the bat saying that you are Westernized and not an Indian from India? If that's not distancing yourself from India I don't know what is. Not that I'm hating - I'm American and do the exact same thing too when I'm abroad (emphasize my Americanness and downplay the Indian aspect). Maybe I'm looking for a way to distinguish myself without looking try hard?

This might surprise you, but Indians have a very negative reputation in many countries (particularly East Asia), so you don’t want to be associated with the negativity.

In UK if people ask, I say I’m Indian. Outside of UK, I say I’m British. I wear multiple hats depending on where I am in the world. Why would I say that I’m Indian, if I’m not actually from India? If somebody asks about my ethnicity, I’ll tell them, but if not, I never bring it up.

I live and work in Los Angeles – my colleagues see me as the British guy, not as the Indian guy. When I go to India, my relatives call me British, they don’t think of me as an Indian.

Try not to make your ethnicity a topic of conversation. It’s all about how you style and carry yourself. Who do you think would get more pussy, this guy



Or this guy?



When you look at number 2 – what’s the first thing in your mind? Is it “he looks like an engineering guy from India”, or this guy looks professional and the fact that he's Indian doesn't cross your mind?

(11-12-2014 09:09 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

It's genetic. Indians have always looked down on anyone not Indian for over 3000 years. It's an Aryan complex is what it is.

Indians are not racists towards whites because the whites conquered us. Everyone else is beneath us though (not my words but what I've heard from plenty of indian mouths)

Never heard that one before. I know some Indians who are racist towards whites, but most of them are not in my experience.

(11-12-2014 09:53 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(Non-Muslim) Desi 1st generation immigrants don't like Muslims, Blacks and lower class Whites, in that order.

In UK we call it the BMW rule – No Blacks, Muslims or Whites.

I’ve realized how enlightened my parents were growing up, because I never heard them talk shit about other races or religions.
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On rare occasions me not saying I’m Indian has worked against me in the US. I remember one time a Korean-American woman asking me if I’m Indian in a bar, and I said no – I said I’m British but my parents are from India. I asked her for her number but she walked off. About an hour later in the same bar I saw her making out with a FOB Indian guy on the couch.

Another time I spoke to a Japanese FOB in a bar. She asked me if I’m Indian, and again, I said that I’m British but my parents are from India. She asked me if I spoke Hindi, and I told her know. She said I’m not Indian enough for her and told me her ex was Indian but they broke up because he was a vegetarian and wouldn’t eat sushi! . I asked her for her number but she also walked off. A few minutes later I noticed that she was deep in conversation with an Indian FOB guy.

[kaotic]

(11-12-2014 02:09 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

When you look at number 2 – what’s the first thing in your mind? Is it “he looks like an engineering guy from India”, or this guy looks professional and the fact that he's Indian doesn't cross your mind?

Any Indian/Pakistani guy is going notice his race first.

It also depends on what he says when he opens his mouth.

I've seen a number 1 guy speak perfect english and was extremely polite.

But I get what you're saying.


On a side note I see this kinda fobbish indian dude in my gym's locker room, he walks behind me as I walk out.

I see this indian 7 girl in front of me, who almost stops talking mid sentence when she locks eyes with me.
She does the -pan the room- with her head to check me out more. I walk past her to paper dispenser to dry my hands. I'm pretty swole since I just finished shoulders.

I can feel her eyes burning into my back, sure enough I turn around and she quickly turns away. Hah, maybe Indian girls do check me out, very rare to find HB Indian girls where I live.

[speakeasy]

(11-10-2014 02:02 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Or these IT support faggots:

Dude, that was one of the funniest things I've seen posted on RVF!

[Earl Grey]

(11-10-2014 02:02 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

I was born and raised in UK, and now live in the US. There is a shitty Indian stereotype here, which simply doesn’t exist in UK. Indians are mainstream in the UK. In the US the average Indian male is stereotyped like this faggot:

Or this faggot, who’s on one of top rated TV shows and is too shy to talk to women :



Or these IT support faggots:

Indian men in the US have to NOT act anything like these guys! These faggots are the overwhelming stereotype of Indian men in the US, so for an Indian man to get pussy he can’t come across as “Indian”. One of my classmates at grad school though I was half white since I don’t act like an “Indian”!

This is the stereotypical bullshit that us South Asian guys have to overcome in the USA. It shows how important it is to present a different picture to the world. However, that doesn't necessarily mean you have to renounce your culture and traditions totally. Just the ones that make you fall into the stereotype and hurt your game.

A lot of good advice in this thread for not only South Asian guys, but other FOB types.

[Vaun]

I have worked with several extremely successful Indian men of all types here in the US. Most of them were immigrants. Some are extremely laid back and affable, super friendly and generally just really cool, and others are intensely focused hyper ambitious individuals. Some are fashionable cool players with money(that they have earned on their own), and some are uber nerds(often also with money they have earned on their own). So I have found Indian men are like any other race, some are easy to get along with and others are not. One thing I have seen though is a chip on their shoulder, not in an angry way, but in an immigrant way. A mindset that is survival focused, propagating their race and not taking no for an answer into a society that let them in, but isnt giving them a free lunch. Often this conflicts with the general American laid back PC attitudes these days, and it makes me wonder what people were like back in the 30's and 40's when there were hoards of immigrants coming here, fighting their way up. Nevertheless, people have strong opinions and exert them over others, and others want to get along and make good work together. Like anybody else.

[MidWest]

(11-12-2014 09:09 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 07:19 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Guys dont take this the wrong way but I have noticed a lot Indian guys are extremely rude and give nasty looks to other minorities yet are the complete opposite to whites. Common behavior or am I imagining things? On the flip side I have met some nice ones who are just awkward and need guidance from someone like cobra!!

It's genetic. Indians have always looked down on anyone not Indian for over 3000 years. It's an Aryan complex is what it is.

Indians are not racists towards whites because the whites conquered us. Everyone else is beneath us though (not my words but what I've heard from plenty of indian mouths)

Interesting you say this. My father works with an Indian guy and they always give each other shit especially when it comes to religion. Indian guy tells my dad "Why do you Mexicans love worshiping a virgin?", my dad responds "Why do you guys worship a cow?" hahaha. They are really good friends though.

I live in Illinois so there are lots of Indians in the Chicago suburbs and for the most part I have never really had trouble with them, in fact one of my best friends is Indian from Singapore.

On another note, I read an article somewhere that Ghandi himself was a racist towards Blacks and darker skinned Indians. Which is strange coming from a guy who was against British rule.

[WalterBlack]

(11-15-2014 10:09 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

On another note, I read an article somewhere that Ghandi himself was a racist towards Blacks and darker skinned Indians. Which is strange coming from a guy who was against British rule.

That's not surprising - many Indians have a dim opinion on blacks, and many Indians also look down on South Indians.

There's a north/south divide in many countries e.g. Italy, UK, China, Thailand etc.

[speakeasy]

(11-15-2014 10:09 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

On another note, I read an article somewhere that Ghandi himself was a racist towards Blacks and darker skinned Indians. Which is strange coming from a guy who was against British rule.

He was very racist. He lived in apartheid South Africa at one point and was against apartheid against Indians but in favor of it for blacks. He also used the word "kaffir" which is the South African equivalent of "nigger". He was one of the first Indian race trolls in my opinion.

[bojangles]

He was also the reason that the subcontinent broke into 3. The first Pakistani prime minister was born and raised in the same Indian state as Gandhi.

[speeddemon]

(11-17-2014 02:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 10:09 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

On another note, I read an article somewhere that Ghandi himself was a racist towards Blacks and darker skinned Indians. Which is strange coming from a guy who was against British rule.

He was very racist. He lived in apartheid South Africa at one point and was against apartheid against Indians but in favor of it for blacks. He also used the word "kaffir" which is the South African equivalent of "nigger". He was one of the first Indian race trolls in my opinion.

Let the past be the past.

MLK Jr. plagiarized tons of his doctoral thesis yet nobody brings that up since the totality of his work overcomes that. Same thing with Gandhi.

[Sebastian]

I don't know what 'My parents are from India but I am British since I was born there' means.

You can say you are British all you want but that's not what majority of people will think.

When they think about British, they think about Buckingham palace, British aristocrats with that white wigs, British army who conquered world (like the officer guy from Patriot movie), Beatles, Hugh Grant, James Bond etc.

Do you see any indians in those? They were not part of this at all. You can not claim all this heritage just because you were born there.

When girls want to Bang British, they want to Bang That Heritage.

It's like this Asian family immigrated to U.S. This kid was born and lived here his whole life. Can he brag about how Americans put a guy on the moon blah blah?

I think it's fine as long as you acknowledge people you were born in England and your parents are from India when asked.

I met couple indian girls and was curious about their race. (could be persian, arab or even latina) So I can talk about certain things depending on their race.
They just kept saying 'I am Australian or I am British'

[Brian Shima]

That's the most absurd thing in this thread Sebastian!

[Cobra]

(11-18-2014 10:38 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I don't know what 'My parents are from India but I am British since I was born there' means.

You can say you are British all you want but that's not what majority of people will think.

When they think about British, they think about Buckingham palace, British aristocrats with that white wigs, British army who conquered world (like the officer guy from Patriot movie), Beatles, Hugh Grant, James Bond etc.

Do you see any indians in those? They were not part of this at all. You can not claim all this heritage just because you were born there.

When girls want to Bang British, they want to Bang That Heritage.

It's like this Asian family immigrated to U.S. This kid was born and lived here his whole life. Can he brag about how Americans put a guy on the moon blah blah?

I think it's fine as long as you acknowledge people you were born in England and your parents are from India when asked.

I met couple indian girls and was curious about their race. (could be persian, arab or even latina) So I can talk about certain things depending on their race.
They just kept saying 'I am Australian or I am British'

I'm not sure you're a 100% there. You're assuming girls bang based on skin color, but they could bang based on accent or sense of style too. I think race is a factor white girls aren't as open= to ethnic guys but it's not a 100%. Too much generalization maybe?

Maybe tell us what types of girls and experience you're basing this on aside from the Indian girls you talk about.

[speakeasy]

(11-18-2014 11:01 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

That's the most absurd thing in this thread Sebastian!

I think he's right 100%. And let's face, many brown guys(south Asian) love blondes. Now if I told a brown guy I know this hot Swedish girl to set you up with, he's probably thinking he's going to get a blonde girl. Now suppose the girl was instead a Nigerian or Pakistani descent chic whose parents immigrated there. Would that still fulfill their image of a Swedish girl? They'd probably be like, nah, give me a real Swedish chic.

Same shit.

[Sebastian]

Do you know what brand image is?

You might claim you are a smart buyer who doesn't get caught up with that brand thing and don't pay any extra $$ but I am sure you are just like everyone else.
When you think about some brand/product, you will have a certain image going on in your head. that Positive image will push you to purchase that product.

Your race is part of branding
Your skin color is part of branding.
Your accent is part of branding
Your physical shape is part of branding
Your face is part of branding
And the list goes on and on........

Who said race thing is 100%? but it's a big major factor.

By the way, I was just trying to say as a 2nd generation indian, you can't claim (just in my opinion. please ignore if you don't agree) you are British like, let's say, that William who have british ancestors who lived there thousands years.

Let's just make it simple. when people ask 'where are you from', do they want to know what passport you have or it's usually about your race?

(11-18-2014 11:07 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 10:38 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I don't know what 'My parents are from India but I am British since I was born there' means.

You can say you are British all you want but that's not what majority of people will think.

When they think about British, they think about Buckingham palace, British aristocrats with that white wigs, British army who conquered world (like the officer guy from Patriot movie), Beatles, Hugh Grant, James Bond etc.

Do you see any indians in those? They were not part of this at all. You can not claim all this heritage just because you were born there.

When girls want to Bang British, they want to Bang That Heritage.

It's like this Asian family immigrated to U.S. This kid was born and lived here his whole life. Can he brag about how Americans put a guy on the moon blah blah?

I think it's fine as long as you acknowledge people you were born in England and your parents are from India when asked.

I met couple indian girls and was curious about their race. (could be persian, arab or even latina) So I can talk about certain things depending on their race.
They just kept saying 'I am Australian or I am British'

I'm not sure you're a 100% there. You're assuming girls bang based on skin color, but they could bang based on accent or sense of style too. I think race is a factor white girls aren't as open= to ethnic guys but it's not a 100%. Too much generalization maybe?

Maybe tell us what types of girls and experience you're basing this on aside from the Indian girls you talk about.