Quote: (10-31-2018 01:41 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:
Quote: (10-30-2018 09:52 PM)Graft Wrote:
Indian culture is truly a clusterfuck when it comes to dating and sexual relations in the West.
On first glance, it looks like a proud and slightly insular patriarchal culture. Once you look under the surface, you start to see the problems, the underlying reasons why so many Indian guys turn to game forums.
Indian parents encourage their children to obsessively study and eschew normal western social activities, such as sports, drinking/smoking, weightlifting, and dating, all in the hopes that the child will make enough money for an arranged marriage in the future. The males decide that they don't want to be nerdy betas controlled by their parents and the females decide that they don't want to be submissive housewives controlled by their parents. Once they make the transition from their insular immigrant culture to western values, a few things happen:
1. The dynamic of cultural pushback never leaves them. The females, having been raised in an extremely controlling and career oriented environment, rebel against patriarchal values and turn into feminists. They indulge in alcohol and cheap sex while maintaining a successful career. The males, having not been raised with proper sexual guidance, turn to online material to try and gain access to the cheap sex that everyone seems to be having. Westernized second generation Indians don't have the same pride as Latins/Italians/Russians-there seems to be a significant amount of rebellion and self hate within most of them.
2. Indian parents are omnipresent in their adult child's dating life. If you're ever dating an Indian girl, understand that there is always an underlying psychological rebellion against her controlling father and her family's resistance to gays/feminism/SWPL. She's bitter that her "backwards" culture doesn't align with the progressive values that would make her accepted in a white western circle. Once you get serious with her, there is always an ominous threat of her parent's acceptance of you, your family, your career, and their constant attempts to undercut you with an arranged Indian marriage.
Indian guys are released into the dating market with almost zero skills of the sort. They've spent most of their lives obeying their parents, studying, paying no attention to their looks or health, all while having the temptations of easy sex and partying dangled in front of them by their western peers. Once they realize that their job and education won't get them ahead in the dating market, faced with imminent sexual explosion, they become obsessed with pickup, nightlife, bartending, club promoting, anything that doesn't resemble the repressed childhood that they experienced.
3. Their culture really gets fucked once you combine their cultural pushback with their caste system and obsession with light skin. The Indian girls are out in the market chasing whitey, rejecting the younger version of their beta father in the form of a fit, free, relaxed, white boy. The Indian guys are understandably frustrated, having spent their youth watching unattainable white girls give out free sex to Chads while their female Indian peers start doing the same. When Indian girls reject the controlling and beta nature of the Indian guys, and the Indian guys reject the prudeness and sexual shyness of Indian girls in favor of a white forbidden fruit, you get both genders who have internalized hate towards each other and pseudo-worship of a white western ideal. The women get the easier end of the stick when Chads want their Indian flag, the Indian guys get screwed because their women don't have the in group loyalty of other immigrant cultures and they must overcome serious stereotypes in order to get access to the white girls that they desire.
Having access to Indian culture over the years has been an eye opener for me. It took me a while to understand all of these psychological nuances which greatly affect their struggles in dating. The healthiest Indian guys that I knew were open to all races, but understanding that a slightly westernized Indian girl would be their bread and butter.
Mostly on point but have to agree with browndude that Indian girls are generally quite open to Indian guys. My experience has been much the same as his - I've never gotten attitude or had a hard time with them. The issue with them mainly is a) the prudishness which you already addressed, and b) a vanishingly small percentage of them are actually attractive. The cute ones are firmly off the market by the time they get to their mid 20s.
I honestly can't recall the last time I met a cute, single Indian girl over the age of 25.
All that said - I think if Westernized Indian girls are your thing, the UK is probably better than the US. There's more of them there and they're cuter to boot. Yes there's lots of backwards-thinkin Indians there, I know, but there's plenty that aren't that way as well.
Location matters quite a bit. I've seen Indian guys do well with women in Denver, Colorado. This is coming from a Latino tho
