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(02-21-2012 12:50 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(02-20-2012 07:00 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-20-2012 11:53 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(02-20-2012 09:48 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-19-2012 10:23 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Those dudes are buying pussy.

We all pay for it, most people just don't recognize the exchange.

ever been to college/university? i can count on my hands how many times ive spent money on girls, most of those times have been during christmas/birthdays or during my LTR. If youre thinking time = money and the time you spend with these girls is how you're paying them you're with the wrong girls. You should enjoy the company of the girls you're fucking, at least the ones you fuck more than once.

You've proved my point exactly....money and time aren't the only ways to pay for something.

And what might these other ways be?

Effort is one off hand. Dealing with aggravating behavior, dealing with flakes, pregnancy and STDs, etc.

And you aren't just investing the time you directly spend with someone. Consider the time you spend learning to game. Look at the money you spend on clothing, activites, gym memberships, etc.

the point is, we ALL pay for it in one way or another. Even if you enjoy that, you are still paying for it somehow.

[RandalGraves]

Every action you take in life has an opportunity cost. Time is limited.

I think what is meant by "they're buying pussy" is that they are laying down serious money for a one-use option. Game is an investment that multiplies the value of your efforts for the rest of your life.

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(02-22-2012 09:49 PM)RandalGraves Wrote:  

Every action you take in life has an opportunity cost. Time is limited.

I think what is meant by "they're buying pussy" is that they are laying down serious money for a one-use option. Game is an investment that multiplies the value of your efforts for the rest of your life.

can't the same be said for making money? The better you get at it, the easier it becomes to get, the better you get at maximizing what you get for it.

Whatever you use to get what you want, good for you. I'm pointing out that the people who knock "buying it" are just putting a different set of resources into play to get what they want. I don't really see the difference.

[WesternCancer]

The difference is that people who pay cash for pussy are getting nothing but pussy, the people who "pay" in self-improvement and lifestyle are getting pussy, experiences, the thrill of the chase, stories etc. There is way more value to be gained from actually earning a piece of ass than giving a whore a grip to bust a nut.

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(02-23-2012 09:14 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

The difference is that people who pay cash for pussy are getting nothing but pussy, the people who "pay" in self-improvement and lifestyle are getting pussy, experiences, the thrill of the chase, stories etc. There is way more value to be gained from actually earning a piece of ass than giving a whore a grip to bust a nut.

Value can be gained from any number of ways of getting women, and that value will vary based on the individual and what they have and want. Why do you think so many rich and powerful people choose to "buy it"? Because money isn't valuable to them, their time and energy is WAY more valuable.

I know it seems hard for some people to grasp, but once you have the choice, you notice the reasons why some people choose that route. The people knocking "buying it" most agressively are typically the people who can't.

[WesternCancer]

If they are rich and powerful they have high status, they merely need to go to a private party or something and have the girls introduced or brought to them, as well as a bit of skill, but how many powerful people are 100% "beta" They are wasting neither time nor energy.

As for the rest of us we build a lifestyle and a mindset which, like the rich and powerful man with a decent skillset, allow us to have our time, energy and money conserved, while getting most any piece of ass we desire.

You saying we all pay for it brings up negative connotations, it seems like you're telling us we ONLY improve ourselves FOR women which is not the case.

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(02-23-2012 10:32 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

If they are rich and powerful they have high status, they merely need to go to a private party or something and have the girls introduced or brought to them, as well as a bit of skill, but how many powerful people are 100% "beta" They are wasting neither time nor energy.

As for the rest of us we build a lifestyle and a mindset which, like the rich and powerful man with a decent skillset, allow us to have our time, energy and money conserved, while getting most any piece of ass we desire.

You saying we all pay for it brings up negative connotations,it seems like you're telling us we ONLY improve ourselves FOR women which is not the case.

That is your own choice to look at it in a negative way. Everything in life has a cost of some kind. By disagreeing with that you reinforce the second part of my point, that some people don't recognize they are paying for it.

Consider that you can achieve and get what you want in life multiple ways, using multiple resources.. That is incredibly positive to me. You can get there with money, effort, time. Those are options, the more you have the better.

I see nothing wrong with "paying" for anything I want. Why do you think that is negative?

[WesternCancer]

Paying to me is when you give up one thing in exchange for something else. As with all exchanges it can be a good deal or a bad deal. I think its people's fear of change which gives them the negative connotations of 'paying'

as for exchanging sex for money I am against it, It defeats the whole purpose of honing my natural abilities in order to bang girls of my choosing. It is fun and a worthwhile use of my time to chat up girls and improve myself as the skills I acquire during self-improvement and game development can be applied to most other areas of my life.

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(02-23-2012 11:15 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Paying to me is when you give up one thing in exchange for something else. As with all exchanges it can be a good deal or a bad deal. I think its people's fear of change which gives them the negative connotations of 'paying'

as for exchanging sex for money I am against it, It defeats the whole purpose of honing my natural abilities in order to bang girls of my choosing. It is fun and a worthwhile use of my time to chat up girls and improve myself as the skills I acquire during self-improvement and game development can be applied to most other areas of my life.

But you are more than willing to give up an even more valuable resource, (time and effort) for the same result.

And who says personal development can't happen when you "pay for it"? Time, money, effort, whatever the cost. Those things aren't mutually exclusive with becomming the person you want to be.

In fact I think the opposite is true, when you pay for things you free up time and effort that you can then use to broaden your horizons even further.

I have friends who refuse to pay for dry cleaning and laundry service. So they spend their sundays doing house work. I spend mine doing whatever I want while I pay someone to do mine. We both paid for it, and we both ended up with clean clothes, but I also got to go kayaking or whatever else I wanted that day.

All I had to lose was money, they lost a part of their life