[Glider]

I think im in a similar stage in my life to Roosh. I am a few years younger than him but when I am at home in the west I dont even think about women, I feel its a complete waste of my time even contemplating try to chat up a girl from the west.

I am hitting up latin America at the moment and I have been chasing girls a lot. While the girls are hotter and better than in the west as soon as I nut I kind of feel like all that time I spent to get the girl in bed could have been better spent on something more productive.

I kind of wonder if that is why a lot of successful guys just settle down with a 6 or 7 so they can bust their nut when they want, dont have to deal with all the games and drama of hotter girls and they get to concentrate on projects that are important to them without having to worry about when they are going to be making their next sperm deposit in another sausage wallet.

Travel has lost its shine for me as well (I also travel solo).

I have 3 passions I want to pursue in their entirety (mountaineering, languages, self improvement) and 3 countries I want to focus on (Colombia, Brazil, Ukraine/Russia).

I hope you write more posts like that Roosh as I enjoy seeing what outcomes you end up with as it helps me think about where I am at.

[xmlenigma]

Hmm.. this is the SWING that I've experienced where I had ONEITIS and then I had bunch of girls ON THE TAP, but I was missing someone else despite having "FUN" with other girls. Wierd how you FEEL with / for someone and feel empty no matter how many girls you get.

[horn]

It's a cross between age, and realizing high-quality girls you have real chemistry with is super-rare in my opinion.

[WestIndianArchie]

It's funny how the rest of you are reading this post. It's not a typical "Player gets the blues" sort of post. Everyone does that.

Here's the line that stuck out to me

"Loneliness is getting harder to tolerate."

Read this post from last month

http://www.rooshv.com/maybe-it-doesnt-re...-than-this

6 months ago

http://www.rooshv.com/we-are-all-sisyphus
http://www.rooshv.com/you-must-space-out...-you-happy
http://www.rooshv.com/theres-no-fleeting...l-pleasure


WIA

[Travesty]

(10-25-2014 02:35 PM)horn Wrote:  

It's a cross between age, and realizing high-quality girls you have real chemistry with is super-rare in my opinion.

I am 29 I have had very strong personal chemistry with 4 girls my entire life. At this rate I may get a shot with about 4-10 more before getting borderline too old to start a family. It is extremely rare.

1) Not quite good looking enough (low 6) and a tiny bit of an ex-slut (quick ride on the carousel that stopped in early college), extremely good person though, obsessed with family and having a family in a good way. Great sexual chemistry.

2) Great sexual chemistry, hot, more fun than with any girl I have ever had. Had girl game absolutely. Alcoholic wreck and ex-drug abuser, liar, and eventually cheater disappearing act one-two punch. Probably a slutty past - not sure how big...

3) Working class girl with daddy issues. Cute as hell. My perfect body type etc... wanted a family and kids didn't care about career. Practical and modest. Too bad I met her right after she made a conscious decision and actual concrete moves in her life to get off the carousel young (early college), but was a huge slut I learned before she decided she had enough carousel and wanted something solid.

4) Very smart and caring sweet girl. Our personalities meshed extremely well. Just not quite good looking enough (6) and not quite feminine enough overall. Of course not American.

So...

Either not good looking enough to maintain interest or too slutty. The West in a nutshell.

Sometimes it may be a blessing in disguise I haven't gotten out of the West yet to experience high quality girls. Maybe I will get there at the right age where I am ready to settle down a bit and my comparison against Western girls will make me cherish one more than guys that get out of the West too soon and don't appreciate higher quality girls because of abundance.

[The Lizard of Oz]

I think that this is an important and interesting thread.

I have a different take on some of these matters and I'd like to write about it at length one day, but in the meantime, I thought that this post I wrote some time ago is relevant and might be of interest here.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-31224.html

(12-16-2013 07:35 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

I'm reposting a response I made to reaper23 -- whose utter honesty in this thread prompted the following thoughts, which I thought deserved their own thread:

reaper23,

I read your posts in this thread with great interest.

You find yourself in a position that most men reading this can only dream about. You've had and continue to have great sexual success, having your way with submissive and attractive females, making them fulfill your every fantasy, including threesomes and whatever other scenarios you can think up.

Yet the prevailing note in all of these posts is one of disenchantment and ennui. Rather than feeling grateful for and contented with the superb erotic boons you've enjoyed, you are never far from aggrievedly posing the age-old and classic question, "Is this all there is"?

It is a good and honest question. But it reflects a fundamental confusion that should be addressed.

The life of sexuality and eros that you have enjoyed to such an unusual extent is the life of the body. It is, indeed, one of the greatest bodily felicities that human beings are capable of -- but it is part of the life of the body, nevertheless.

Except in one's extreme youth, the life of the body cannot and should not be the primary life of a man who has a brain in his head. Instead, the life of the mind and of the heart -- thought and feeling -- should be primary. The life of the body should be seen as the icing on the cake -- a delicious icing if one is lucky. But nothing more.

This is not for any moral reasons but simply because for an intelligent man such as yourself the life of the body is necessarily too limited. There is just not enough there. The body has its pleasures and while they should be attended to with some relish, it is a limited field. Whereas the life of the mind is one that is vast and unlimited.

Pursuing the life of the body as if it can be a primary interest that makes one happy is a fool's errand. And it leads to the comedy of trying to think up more and more new twists and variations and fetishes as if the next one will do the trick.

You are challenging the life of the body to give you something that it is not capable of -- the experience of continuing and increasing interest, engagement and variety that only the mind can supply. As a result, you cannot even properly enjoy and appreciate what you have.

The point is not that sex, including spectacular pornographic sex with threesomes etc, is inherently "empty" or "soul-destroying". It is nothing of the sort. It is, at its best, a great and triumphant pleasure. But it cannot bear the burden of being the most important or interesting thing in your life -- no bodily thing can.

I think that reaching a moment like this is a great opportunity. Realize that the life of the body is done for you as the primary source of variety and interest, and turn to the life of the mind. And over time you will find that the aggrieved ennui is gone, that the question of "is this all there is" no longer comes up, and that the field in front of you is truly inexhaustible. And you will be able to enjoy sexual and other pleasures that may come your way with the relish and gratitude they deserve once they're put in their proper place.

[kaotic]

(10-25-2014 06:46 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 04:15 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

This seems to be a major conflict for long term inner-game.

How is that? Inner-game is being comfortable in whatever field you might undertake. There's no fault in changing paths in your life.

I think when I wrote that I meant it as, a change, NOT conflicit (wrong word to be used).

He senses something and yearns for something different I feel like, I'll never be able to understand because well, I'm not Roosh.

But I understand, I went to a point of controlling feelings for an HB 8 I have and always having side pieces all the way to I just want be alone and do my own thing.

I agree there is no fault, I noticed a few members posted things about LTR yet they're being heavily criticized, I see no problem in choosing what YOU want to do (especially if you've already been educated about the choices you'll be making).

[Kieran]

Interesting blog post and comments in this thread.

Roosh has experienced a lot and has been living a similar lifestyle for a long time, so I suppose he was bound to tire of it at some stage.

Unlike several other posters in this thread, I feel burned out with relationships, even with great girls. I've had several over the years, and I feel almost too tired to start the same old process with somebody new, even if I feel that flicker of wanting to here and there. On the other hand, going out with my friends and chasing women is the only thing left that still excites me, and really makes me feel alive, even after 15 years of doing it (to be honest I even feel somewhat weary of activities like boxing and travel, that my whole life used to revolve around). I have a great friendship group of men that are like brothers to me, and who are great fun to go out with, and I'm really glad of that. I'm only 30 though so who knows whether this will all change with time.

I do however really want children (but without the strings - not really possible), and I imagine this is why I find myself more and more attracted to the young and cute girl next door types that would make good mothers (even for ONS), whereas when I was younger I liked the hot sluts.

I also wonder how much of the changes we all go through are related to changes in our hormones. Many of the most violent twats and biggest players that I know, all changed as they hit their early to mid thirties, and started preaching non-violence or encouraging others to settle down respectively. I don't really think they changed their ethics, more that they ran out of steam for it with the changes in hormones.