9yo guy meets over 500 women on the NYC subway
10-14-2014, 02:38 AM
I like this guy. I'd love to know how much success he has though.
Quote: (10-14-2014 11:20 PM)savvylurker Wrote:
Anyone want to guess the flake ratio he gets when he email closes them? (email leading to a date) I'm guessing a lot of the girls think that is easier than giving him a hard no. Still, even if it was 1/3 that's not bad if you do it hundreds of times.
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Quote: (10-14-2014 02:37 PM)silviophonic Wrote:
Yup. Subway game is a big part of my repertoire.
PROS:
1) Very good talent down there.
2) Targets are stationery, making the approach easier than trying to Yadstop a hottie on the street rushing to pilates class. As always, look neat, presentable, normal and cool. She's trapped with you underground, so comfort is key.
CONS:
The time pressure is enormous. You need to spit tight game and ramp up to the number close often within 5 minutes. The interaction could be going really well, she's giving you IOIs, her eyes are spazzing, then BOOM, it's her stop and she's gone like a thief in the night. At that point, my split-second strategy is to get her full name so I can Facebook close her later, but it ain't ideal.
PRO-TIP:
Girls are always glued to their smartphones, so a good opener I've found is: 'Are you getting reception down here?'
Also: complimenting her on an article of clothing, asking her about her smartphone ('is that the new iPhone 6?') or ebook. Basic elderly coffee shop chat described in 'Day Bang'.
Quote: (10-14-2014 02:37 PM)silviophonic Wrote:
PRO-TIP:
Girls are always glued to their smartphones, so a good opener I've found is: 'Are you getting reception down here?'
Also: complimenting her on an article of clothing, asking her about her smartphone ('is that the new iPhone 6?') or ebook. Basic elderly coffee shop chat described in 'Day Bang'.
Quote: (10-15-2014 02:50 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
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Quote: (10-14-2014 02:37 PM)silviophonic Wrote:
Yup. Subway game is a big part of my repertoire.
PROS:
1) Very good talent down there.
2) Targets are stationery, making the approach easier than trying to Yadstop a hottie on the street rushing to pilates class. As always, look neat, presentable, normal and cool. She's trapped with you underground, so comfort is key.
CONS:
The time pressure is enormous. You need to spit tight game and ramp up to the number close often within 5 minutes. The interaction could be going really well, she's giving you IOIs, her eyes are spazzing, then BOOM, it's her stop and she's gone like a thief in the night. At that point, my split-second strategy is to get her full name so I can Facebook close her later, but it ain't ideal.
PRO-TIP:
Girls are always glued to their smartphones, so a good opener I've found is: 'Are you getting reception down here?'
Also: complimenting her on an article of clothing, asking her about her smartphone ('is that the new iPhone 6?') or ebook. Basic elderly coffee shop chat described in 'Day Bang'.
Platform - Do you get on the same car, or a different car? Or a different train?
Exits have always been a stumbling point for public transit game.
WIA
Quote: (06-20-2015 09:48 PM)Lights Wrote:
I hope you'll forgive a little breakdown from me. Here's my perspective...
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Who Else Wants A Breakdown of Subway Game?
First off, the subway is a veritable **training ground** for pickup.
It's like the police academy of game.
Also, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. All that's missing is alcohol and music.
Here are some reasons why the train is good.
1. Riding the train is generally uncomfortable, tense and boring. How is this good? Because your game will be a SHINING LIGHT in the dismal world of train-riders.
2. Most guys simply do not approach women on the train, and if they do, their game is **WEAK SAUCE**. As some people on this forum have pointed out, it takes "balls." GOOD. The field is wide open for guys with "balls."
3. There is a built-in time constraint. 5-10 minutes generally. Just enough time and she is gone and you get more prospects. Your prospects keep spawning. Keep em coming. Also just enough time to make an impact and give her the "I might never see this guy again" tingle.
4. Targets are literally SITTING DUCKS. They're immobile, guys. Not going anywhere.
5. By the way, even if everyone started approaching everyone, there would still be girls wondering, "Hey, why don't people hit on ME today?!"
P.S. You'll notice if you bring the right vibe to the train car, other people will start engaging in conversations with strangers. It's like you're changing the world for the better.
Now, what is our strategy?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------1. Be "THAT GUY". Be the sociable guy who wants to make friends. Own it. Don't pretend it was an accident.
2. Approach everyone at first, warm-up. Really get into state, and get your improvisational skills and vibe to peak levels. Subway game is good for this reason alone. You never know who you might meet anyway and it is fun. Stick to girls though.
3. Even if you suck, just get warmed-up and when it gets too bad, change cars.
4. Pretend to be lost (only for a little bit, then get into pure unadulterated game), give a blatant compliment, or do something situational. But **STAND out**. You cannot just be "the guy who hit on me on the train." You must be unforgettable.
Really make an impact.
Then the number will be LESS FLAKEY.
Mind you, it will still be flakey, you are a complete stranger from a train.
Is there a market of girls looking for adventure with a **complete stranger from a train**?
YES!
Even if your vibe is low-key, be intense.
Really get after it, guys.
People are tired, and do not want to deal with bullshit. No weak attempts. Take on full responsibility of the interaction.
Take them on a roller-coaster ride that makes them get off, dizzily, asking, "Who the fuck was that and where can I get more??"
They need someone who will light up their gray world of shattered city dreams that becomes really apparent in a rush-hour train ride.
PRO-TIP: Match a person's state first, then, lead them to where you want.
4. You can use a prop to help you, like a crossword, and ask for help with a clue. It's a good icebreaker.
5. If you bomb super bad, change cars.
Guys, if nothing else, the subway is good for practice for when you go out. The numbers will be flakey, but you might make a friend here or there. Your state will be through the roof, you'll get numbers, business cards, "emails," see people light up and generally brighten the world with your unabashed boldness.
However. Wait One Minute Please.PLEASE!
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I'm going to go on to this last part, the piéce de résistance. This is the crown jewel of subway game and that is when...
You Must Push For The Insta-Date™"
Guys, this is it. If you want a chance to make something of Subway Game™, it is my opinion that you must push for an insta-date.
Here's how.
1. Time it: Once you have made an unforgettable impact, only then, find out where she gets off then say
"Hey, what are you doing RIGHT NOW."
Check her response. Don't even wait for her to reply, if she falters, hesitates, push on:
"Hey, grab a drink with me real quick." "Just two minutes." "Right here."
Say whatever you need to say. Lie if you must.
Say you know a spot at her stop even if you don't.
Real quick.
Say you're two stops down and you'll grab a cab anyway, even if you're not.
They will be flattered and impressed at your boldness, regardless. If they're not, they suck. Because what you're doing is awesome.
2. If you sense any yielding at all, take control. Lead her to a coffee a shop, but preferably a *bar*. Any bar will do. Mind you this is at some point in the evening. And order a drink and escalate to a million.
The key is, you are not waiting for a definite yes or a definite no.
What you are looking for is **uncertainty**." You are looking for a **wavering**. You are looking for
Any Inkling That She is Asking Herself What To Do.
This is your signal to go all the way in.
3. Play the desire card. Like you must have her right now.
4. If you get off at the same stop, that's perfect.
Really PUSH IT. 99/100 times they will say no. Keep pushing until you get the Second Thought.
That's all you need. You don't need the order yet, just the appointment. You don't need the yes, just the shadow of a doubt.
Make her get totally lost in the moment.
Escalate right there in the train to show your intent. Let her Know **for sure** you want her, right now.
When she hesitates, push her over the edge. She's done. Yours.
Then at the bar, continue escalating toward a cab back to your place under whatever pretense. Hint: You have drugs is the easiest.
Or say you have to go, but you should hang out again. The number will be very solid now.
It should be very easy to get her back to your place, she will be in a dream at this point.
And so on.P.S. Regardless of whether you do the insta-date™ as described, you will get a lot of good practice in on the train.
Good luck. And Happy Hunting.
Quote: (06-21-2015 03:03 PM)fucksong Wrote:
Lights, I initially was going to just write off your post as whatever, another PUA coach wannabe to get flakey numbers but your last part showed me you did have some skill. As someone who has met his last 3 gfs (on street) with one of them from an instadate, I agree with your mindset to push for instadate.
But then I'd like to hear your thoughts on logistics details.
For example,
1. if you're riding the subway in an area of town that isn't the prettiest, good luck trying to close a girl in the ghetto part of town UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW ALL THE BARS NEAR THE SUBWAY STOPS FOR A CERTAIN LINE.
If you do, then props to you as that shows me you did your homework.
2. But is this the case? Or are you going for full blown spur of the moment serendipity where it doesn't matter where you are and you're pushing for instafuck, which means you're gonna lose some of the girls.
If this is the case, I still give you props for that strategy. I've tried it and girls who initially agreed to instadate were not down with instafuck. Plus, unless you're a baller, not knowing the specific places to go can easily drain your budget because you'll be at the whim of whatever bar/cafe/restaurant happens to be near the subway stop. A girl might be up for adventure but if you're
3. walking around for awhile searching for a cheap spot
raises more probability of her losing her "state/buying temperature/whatever" So you just end up paying the $20 or more for two drinks with
5. no closing F-spot.
The only practical way I see this happening is you know a
6. specific line that yields good results at certain times of the day
where you
7. know the bars near the subway stops
so can make it seem spontaneous when really it's part of your closing strategy.
8. But then you don't need the subway for this, you just need any place.
Curious to hear your thoughts. I'm always looking to learn but will admit when I'm wrong but will also call bullshit when I think I see it.
9. If you can give at least one concrete example of you doing this and FUCKING THE GIRL, not just practicing talking to a girl and getting her number (which you'll find gets old after you've gotten tons of numbers and they don't convert)
10. Oh final note, do you have a job and/or exercise? In order to replicate your strategy, you need to have a lot of energy and having a regular job can easily zap this. If you work out regularly and/or a younger guy, I can see someone working this but then you need to have eaten earlier in the day to have this energy, otherwise it can dissipate at point of sale. I am speaking from experience here.
Peace fellow hunter