[Roosh]

Did Anita Sarkeesian Commit Felony Wire Fraud?
http://www.returnofkings.com/43647/did-a...wire-fraud

Two journalists we should set our sights on are:

Soraya Nadia McDonald from The Washington Post
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SorayaTWP

Julie Bort from Business Insider
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Julie188

They published Anita's false story to the largest audience without verification or basic fact checking.

[Cr33pin]

[DannyAlberta]

(09-12-2014 11:24 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Soraya Nadia McDonald from The Washington Post
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SorayaTWP

she's vile. and not just over this topic.

her coverage of the ray rice thing is equally bad. it also suffers from an obvious cognitive dissonance.

on thursday she writes a piece before the ravens game that implicitly criticizes the nfl/cbs for scheduling a rhinna performance before the ravens game because of obvious parallels that could be drawn to domestic violence: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morni...s-rihanna/

then today she writes a piece that openly criticizes the nfl/cbs for cancelling the rhinna performance: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morni...ed-to-nix/

what does she want?

[bojangles]

Here's a nice page to burn one witch

http://help.washingtonpost.com/ics/suppo...ptID=15080

[Darius]

So does someone whom she defrauded have to come forward and press charges to get the ball rolling?

[scorpion]

This is proof not only that Anita Sarkeesian is a total fraud, but that the SJW virus which has infected the vast majority of media outlets in the West has become so powerful that it is actively overriding good business practices and plain old common sense.

The complete and utter lack of the most basic fact-checking by these "journalists" is a direct consequence of their SJW ideology, because to fact-check Anita Sarkeesian's story would be to discount and question her claim of victimhood. And questioning the victimhood of a person who claims protected victim status is the cardinal sin of social justice. And so Anita can spin her tale of harassment and death threats completely out of whole cloth, without even bothering to make a fake report to the police, with no danger that any establishment journalists will even bother to investigate. They will simply take her claim at face value, because she is a victim according to the rules of social justice, and victims are never to be subjected to any type of scrutiny. To do so would actively "oppress" them, "trigger them" or be a form of "victim blaming".

Now, contrast the behavior of journalists in this situation with how they act when the subject of their story crosses their SJW ideology rather than supports it. In those cases these journalists cannot dig deep enough for dirt on their ideological foes. They won't hesitate to destroy a man's reputation and career. We've seen it now over and over. It's how they operate.

What this tells us is that media in the West is now totally infected with the SJW virus, to the extent that there is hardly even any pretense anymore that they are seeking to communicate objective truth and facts. Modern Western media is entirely focused on promoting the SJW/progressive narrative to such a degree that they won't even engage in the most basic fact checking when covering stories that are pro-SJW. Basic common sense would tell you that this isn't smart over the long term, because it's bound to eventually blow up in their faces. What can we deduce from this? They drank their own Kool-Aid. They aren't just pushing this shit because they're toeing the line their bosses give them, they're doing it because they are true believers in the cause. They aren't failing to fact check because they're incompetent, they're failing to fact check because their zealousness for the SJW cause literally blinds them to the possibility that a "victim" could be lying.

The fourth estate, which the public has traditionally relied on to communicate truth and uncover lies, has literally inverted itself: now it communicates lies and intentionally covers up the truth. What began as the Information Age has quickly degenerated into the Disinformation Age. These days, the truth is only to be found in places like the RVF, the manosphere in general and in other dark corners of the internet. As ridiculous and grandiose as it sounds, in this Age of lies, we are truly the last men who stand for truth. Everything and everyone else has been corrupted or destroyed. Every institution, corporation and government is now actively pursuing an agenda of lies and deceit. The battle for the soul of the West is not being fought with guns and bombs, but with blogs and Tweets. It is an ideological enemy we face rather than a physical one, and so our battles is one of ideas. If the tide is ever going to turn in this fight, it will turn here, for we represent the only remaining bastion of truth in the world today. Beyond us there is nothing and no one.

We must hold the line.

We must not fail.

[Feisbook Control]

+1 from me, Super Sleuth.

[clever alias]

(09-12-2014 01:09 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

This is proof not only that Anita Sarkeesian is a total fraud, but that the SJW virus which has infected the vast majority of media outlets in the West has become so powerful that it is actively overriding good business practices and plain old common sense.

The complete and utter lack of the most basic fact-checking by these "journalists" is a direct consequence of their SJW ideology, because to fact-check Anita Sarkeesian's story would be to discount and question her claim of victimhood. And questioning the victimhood of a person who claims protected victim status is the cardinal sin of social justice. And so Anita can spin her tale of harassment and death threats completely out of whole cloth, without even bothering to make a fake report to the police, with no danger that any establishment journalists will even bother to investigate. They will simply take her claim at face value, because she is a victim according to the rules of social justice, and victims are never to be subjected to any type of scrutiny. To do so would actively "oppress" them, "trigger them" or be a form of "victim blaming".

Now, contrast the behavior of journalists in this situation with how they act when the subject of their story crosses their SJW ideology rather than supports it. In those cases these journalists cannot dig deep enough for dirt on their ideological foes. They won't hesitate to destroy a man's reputation and career. We've seen it now over and over. It's how they operate.

What this tells us is that media in the West is now totally infected with the SJW virus, to the extent that there is hardly even any pretense anymore that they are seeking to communicate objective truth and facts. Modern Western media is entirely focused on promoting the SJW/progressive narrative to such a degree that they won't even engage in the most basic fact checking when covering stories that are pro-SJW. Basic common sense would tell you that this isn't smart over the long term, because it's bound to eventually blow up in their faces. What can we deduce from this? They drank their own Kool-Aid. They aren't just pushing this shit because they're toeing the line their bosses give them, they're doing it because they are true believers in the cause. They aren't failing to fact check because they're incompetent, they're failing to fact check because their zealousness for the SJW cause literally blinds them to the possibility that a "victim" could be lying.

The fourth estate, which the public has traditionally relied on to communicate truth and uncover lies, has literally inverted itself: now it communicates lies and intentionally covers up the truth. What began as the Information Age has quickly degenerated into the Disinformation Age. These days, the truth is only to be found in places like the RVF, the manosphere in general and in other dark corners of the internet. As ridiculous and grandiose as it sounds, in this Age of lies, we are truly the last men who stand for truth. Everything and everyone else has been corrupted or destroyed. Every institution, corporation and government is now actively pursuing an agenda of lies and deceit. The battle for the soul of the West is not being fought with guns and bombs, but with blogs and Tweets. It is an ideological enemy we face rather than a physical one, and so our battles is one of ideas. If the tide is ever going to turn in this fight, it will turn here, for we represent the only remaining bastion of truth in the world today. Beyond us there is nothing and no one.

We must hold the line.

We must not fail.

thats what SJWs do. people like Anita probably don't care about social justice, she's probably a con artist who is exploiting an industry. the same thing happened to atheism. atheism used to be mainly hetero males, and they loved people like carl sagan and neil degrasse tyson, but then a bunch of JWS infiltrate atheism, say its misogynist and now you have "atheism plus," which is atheism with an extra tag line "equality!" and now instead of neil degrasse tyson, you have random female bloggers that nobody gave a shit about before, and the SJWs that infiltrated now get speaking fees.

all anita did was target an industry outside of MSM, and then rant about it. and then she signal boosted with claims of harassment and death threats. now shes laughing all the way to the bank and gets huge speaking fees for doing basically nothing. it happened in atheism, its happening in gaming, and anyone here that wants to make a quick buck, its an easy formula to follow. hell, even suey park now does speaking for a living, its a joke.

1. pick any hobby or group that is mainly straight male.
2. wear a dress, call yourself a transexual
3. superficially join said group
4. rant about transphobiaon twitter, facebook, and youtube, claim harassment, victim complex hard until its picked up by media
5. charge university lbgt groups huge speaking fees talking baout your struggle
6. profit

[MikeCF]

Now is a good time to remind people that the media is corrupt in every regard.

This is a good example:

http://www.returnofkings.com/30021/washi...propaganda

[iamdegaussed]

I just saw Milo Yianoupolis tweeting that Anita's case has been handled by the FBI? Does this mean maybe she wasn't lying?

[Roosh]

(09-12-2014 03:11 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

I just saw Milo Yianoupolis tweeting that Anita's case has been handled by the FBI? Does this mean maybe she wasn't lying?

Sounds like it's from an earlier threat. In August she said she contacted "local police" but local police has said they have no record of any August call. If she contacted the FBI, why did she repeatedly say "police" in her tweets?

[MikeCF]

(09-12-2014 03:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:11 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

I just saw Milo Yianoupolis tweeting that Anita's case has been handled by the FBI? Does this mean maybe she wasn't lying?

Sounds like it's from an earlier threat. In August she said she contacted "local police" but local police has said they have no record of any August call. If she contacted the FBI, why did she repeatedly say "police" in her tweets?

Right. And she had trouble with "local police."

Not much adds up about her story. Which threats and when did she call the police?

That said, I'm glad the FBI is involved. If she faked these threats, they will find out.

If the threats were legit, then arrests should be made.

[Sumanguru]

(09-12-2014 03:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:11 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

I just saw Milo Yianoupolis tweeting that Anita's case has been handled by the FBI? Does this mean maybe she wasn't lying?

Sounds like it's from an earlier threat. In August she said she contacted "local police" but local police has said they have no record of any August call. If she contacted the FBI, why did she repeatedly say "police" in her tweets?

IIRC someone twetted CP at her. The FBI is likely involved for that.

But that's a different issue than the "threat" from that fake Twitter account that she reported to "local police".

[iamdegaussed]

Alright, thanks for clearing that up. It was confusing the way Milo put it.

[Aurini]

(09-12-2014 08:29 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

Let me know when you'd like to hit the advertisers of those websites, if the journalists don't respond. I know someone who can send a few scathing corporate emails and demand certain companies to withdraw advertising.

That's the one thing that the online movement has been successful in so far - viewership is dropping, the outrage is provoking attack articles from the gaming press that scares off the advertisers, and it's looking like a number of sites are going to go defunct.

That said, I'm sure the GamerGate people could benefit from your help - possibly a blog post explaining how/examples of the letters you're sending?

One of the real goods I see coming out of this is that average, a-political people who've been taught to be Liberal are seeing the true face of Liberalism for the first time. Everybody around here is used to the Left posting attack articles constantly, misconstruing everything we say, and convincing others to ignore us. In my personal life I find that most people agree with Red Pill ideas - especially women in their mid-thirties who have realized how fucked up their lives are thanks to modernity, and wish they could find a real man so that they could be a real woman (Note: these are decent women who did the best they could, mostly, but there are so few positive role models/teachers these days that we have to figure it out for ourselves). It's only when they're prejudiced against the 'racist/sexist/homophobic' writers of the manosphere that they find the ideas distasteful.

That's a big motivation for me doing this documentary, as well; though GamerGate is still going strong, eventually it'll peter out. It looks like the Good Guys will come out ahead, but the Left never stops waging war. You can't negotiate peace with FARC, ISIS, or Palestine, and you can't reason with people like Sarkeesian.

This is a great opportunity to blow them out of the water, and expose the toxic methodology underlying all of this; make it that much harder for Alinksy followers to do this in other fields.

[Aurini]

(09-12-2014 03:32 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:29 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:11 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

I just saw Milo Yianoupolis tweeting that Anita's case has been handled by the FBI? Does this mean maybe she wasn't lying?

Sounds like it's from an earlier threat. In August she said she contacted "local police" but local police has said they have no record of any August call. If she contacted the FBI, why did she repeatedly say "police" in her tweets?

IIRC someone twetted CP at her. The FBI is likely involved for that.

But that's a different issue than the "threat" from that fake Twitter account that she reported to "local police".

That makes sense; I've been wondering about the whole thing myself. After all, if the FBI was investigating death threats, wouldn't the local police be notified, since they'd be the ones responsible for protecting her? The FBI doesn't patrol the streets.

Mind you, I'm not an expert on police procedures; this is just forum talk on my end.

[DetlefMourning]

I find the whole concept of "cultural critic that examines harmful tropes and problematic representation of women in video games" really insipid and stupid. There's something really dumb about what she does that offends on an intellectual level. And the fact that she has found a way to get it lucratively funded also grates. Maybe she made up the threat. Maybe she didn't. Both scenarios are plausible to me, and I don't think highly of her character or integrity either way.

But I don't doubt that a lot of men out there play right into her hands by tweeting/emailing a lot of vitriol at her. She should be ignored and deprived of any assistance in being able to cry and whine about being a victim of misogyny. I don't understand why so much ink is spilled on her. Why should we care so much what she thinks? She's not a powerful person. I don't think she's changing anyone's mind, one way or the other, on feminism or anything else. So I don't think you can say that she is too dangerous or too effective in persuasion for her cause. She's nothing more than an idle leaf blowing around in the wind. She reflects and regurgitates certain PC social justice conventional wisdom, but Walter Lippman she is not. So she scammed a few rich liberal idiots out of their money on Kickstarter. That's not a crime. We should be angrier at those people for thinking this woman was more deserving of that money than say, Brian Banks.

We're all here because we know society tells us blue pill lies every day. Not just when it comes to women and relationships, but other aspects of life and society as well. Some of us ended up in these spaces because we haven't achieved yet what society promised and expected out of us, that being the white picket fence, the fancy job, the beautiful, adoring wife. Some of us are here because for a time we did have that, and then we lost it, unfairly too in our minds, and we're still trying to put our lives back together and come back from that. And yet still others are here because they have doubts about whether or not these societal promises and expectations are even worth pursuing to begin with, given the facts on the ground today.

So I read this vitriol directed at this writer, and I can't help but think: shouldn't this anger and this passion be channeled into something else? She isn't worthy of our attention. I want to see a men's issues movement that doesn't give a flying fuck what Anita Sarkeesian thinks about...anything, because we're too busy trying to make men's lives better. Feminism already won the wars it needed to win. The majority of men today accept the idea that women deserve the same rights, freedoms, opportunities and accountability as men. Women's suffrage, Roe v. Wade, women now earning a majority of degrees. Hey, they won. The war is over. In other parts of the world women can get acid thrown in their faces if they dishonor their families by getting gang-raped, but at least here in the West, we don't have a patriarchy anymore. Therefore what passes for contemporary feminism is the finger nails on the blackboard incessant squeaking of "Men are assholes."

Therefore any emotional energy spent getting angry at feminists or liberal journalists or anything else political is a distraction, at least to me. I struggle with feelings of emptiness sometimes. It is a daily battle for me to adopt a positive attitude, not to be confused with being a Pollyanna or the rationalization hamster. but just to face the day with a constructive attitude and work towards achieving my goals and to be real with myself and others. When I think of the Social Justice Warriors, I just want to make a wipe the dust off your lapels gesture and keep on walking.

[TheWastelander]

(09-13-2014 02:01 AM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  

I find the whole concept of "cultural critic that examines harmful tropes and problematic representation of women in video games" really insipid and stupid. There's something really dumb about what she does that offends on an intellectual level. And the fact that she has found a way to get it lucratively funded also grates. Maybe she made up the threat. Maybe she didn't. Both scenarios are plausible to me, and I don't think highly of her character or integrity either way.

But I don't doubt that a lot of men out there play right into her hands by tweeting/emailing a lot of vitriol at her. She should be ignored and deprived of any assistance in being able to cry and whine about being a victim of misogyny. I don't understand why so much ink is spilled on her. Why should we care so much what she thinks? She's not a powerful person. I don't think she's changing anyone's mind, one way or the other, on feminism or anything else. So I don't think you can say that she is too dangerous or too effective in persuasion for her cause. She's nothing more than an idle leaf blowing around in the wind. She reflects and regurgitates certain PC social justice conventional wisdom, but Walter Lippman she is not. So she scammed a few rich liberal idiots out of their money on Kickstarter. That's not a crime. We should be angrier at those people for thinking this woman was more deserving of that money than say, Brian Banks.

We're all here because we know society tells us blue pill lies every day. Not just when it comes to women and relationships, but other aspects of life and society as well. Some of us ended up in these spaces because we haven't achieved yet what society promised and expected out of us, that being the white picket fence, the fancy job, the beautiful, adoring wife. Some of us are here because for a time we did have that, and then we lost it, unfairly too in our minds, and we're still trying to put our lives back together and come back from that. And yet still others are here because they have doubts about whether or not these societal promises and expectations are even worth pursuing to begin with, given the facts on the ground today.

So I read this vitriol directed at this writer, and I can't help but think: shouldn't this anger and this passion be channeled into something else? She isn't worthy of our attention. I want to see a men's issues movement that doesn't give a flying fuck what Anita Sarkeesian thinks about...anything, because we're too busy trying to make men's lives better. Feminism already won the wars it needed to win. The majority of men today accept the idea that women deserve the same rights, freedoms, opportunities and accountability as men. Women's suffrage, Roe v. Wade, women now earning a majority of degrees. Hey, they won. The war is over. In other parts of the world women can get acid thrown in their faces if they dishonor their families by getting gang-raped, but at least here in the West, we don't have a patriarchy anymore. Therefore what passes for contemporary feminism is the finger nails on the blackboard incessant squeaking of "Men are assholes."

Therefore any emotional energy spent getting angry at feminists or liberal journalists or anything else political is a distraction, at least to me. I struggle with feelings of emptiness sometimes. It is a daily battle for me to adopt a positive attitude, not to be confused with being a Pollyanna or the rationalization hamster. but just to face the day with a constructive attitude and work towards achieving my goals and to be real with myself and others. When I think of the Social Justice Warriors, I just want to make a wipe the dust off your lapels gesture and keep on walking.

Completely ignoring them is the same as accepting their current push to dominate every bit of society and every male space. You think they're gonna leave you alone? That's what the video game nerds thought. And the sports guys.

Anything you like to do, including sex, is going to be ruined if these people have their way. Don't believe it? Ask the college students who got kicked out of school and tarred as rapists for having drunken sex.

This isn't a harmless fad.

[Yatagan]

(09-13-2014 02:27 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Completely ignoring them is the same as accepting their current push to dominate every bit of society and every male space. You think they're gonna leave you alone? That's what the video game nerds thought. And the sports guys.

Anything you like to do, including sex, is going to be ruined if these people have their way. Don't believe it? Ask the college students who got kicked out of school and tarred as rapists for having drunken sex.

This isn't a harmless fad.

Precisely, apathy is what allows a small group of agitators like these leftists/SJWs to herd the rest of us like lambs to the slaughter.

[bojangles]

(09-12-2014 08:19 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 08:29 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

Let me know when you'd like to hit the advertisers of those websites, if the journalists don't respond. I know someone who can send a few scathing corporate emails and demand certain companies to withdraw advertising.

That's the one thing that the online movement has been successful in so far - viewership is dropping, the outrage is provoking attack articles from the gaming press that scares off the advertisers, and it's looking like a number of sites are going to go defunct.

That said, I'm sure the GamerGate people could benefit from your help - possibly a blog post explaining how/examples of the letters you're sending?

One of the real goods I see coming out of this is that average, a-political people who've been taught to be Liberal are seeing the true face of Liberalism for the first time. Everybody around here is used to the Left posting attack articles constantly, misconstruing everything we say, and convincing others to ignore us. In my personal life I find that most people agree with Red Pill ideas - especially women in their mid-thirties who have realized how fucked up their lives are thanks to modernity, and wish they could find a real man so that they could be a real woman (Note: these are decent women who did the best they could, mostly, but there are so few positive role models/teachers these days that we have to figure it out for ourselves). It's only when they're prejudiced against the 'racist/sexist/homophobic' writers of the manosphere that they find the ideas distasteful.

That's a big motivation for me doing this documentary, as well; though GamerGate is still going strong, eventually it'll peter out. It looks like the Good Guys will come out ahead, but the Left never stops waging war. You can't negotiate peace with FARC, ISIS, or Palestine, and you can't reason with people like Sarkeesian.

This is a great opportunity to blow them out of the water, and expose the toxic methodology underlying all of this; make it that much harder for Alinksy followers to do this in other fields.

A few big advertisers have already dropped their campaigns across Gawker Media due to GamerGate. It's actually the masses seeing an advert from Best Buy for example and then inundating their corporate inboxes with a thousands of emails about said site and its 'hatred' towards Corporate Ltd's customers. No actual business want's to ostracize its potential consumer base and though people might refute that with clickbait journalists, there's a big difference. No one purchases shit from actual clickbait articles but you do purchase shit online from Best Buy for example.

I've engaged in no advertising removal myself however as I said I know someone who will do it in a surprisingly effective manner.

[DetlefMourning]

(09-13-2014 02:27 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Completely ignoring them is the same as accepting their current push to dominate every bit of society and every male space. You think they're gonna leave you alone? That's what the video game nerds thought. And the sports guys.

Anything you like to do, including sex, is going to be ruined if these people have their way. Don't believe it? Ask the college students who got kicked out of school and tarred as rapists for having drunken sex.

This isn't a harmless fad.

First off, Anita Sarkeesian posts dumb youtube critiques of Call of Duty. That's not the same thing as college administrators afraid of getting sued and altering their student code of conduct to placate feminists. You can say 'Well, it's the same crowd in either case," but more time and energy should be spent on reforming how rape allegations get handled, than gathering digital pitchforks with mobs for some idiot on youtube whining about video games. I'm not saying don't fight to make the world a better place. I just happen to believe that when you have a roach problem, killing individual roaches is 2 percent of the job. You have to clean your house to get rid of the problem. Anita Sarkeesian is a roach.

[samsamsam]

(09-13-2014 09:36 AM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 02:27 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Completely ignoring them is the same as accepting their current push to dominate every bit of society and every male space. You think they're gonna leave you alone? That's what the video game nerds thought. And the sports guys.

Anything you like to do, including sex, is going to be ruined if these people have their way. Don't believe it? Ask the college students who got kicked out of school and tarred as rapists for having drunken sex.

This isn't a harmless fad.

I'm not saying don't fight to make the world a better place. I just happen to believe that when you have a roach problem, killing individual roaches is 2 percent of the job. You have to clean your house to get rid of the roaches. Anita Sarkeesian is a roach.

Out of curiosity, using your roach and house example. What action would represent cleaning the house in this situation?

At times, you ignore certain things, usually those things that are not going to get worse, but her group of people are crazy, make things up, extract resources, which encourages them to be crazier because they think, "see I'm right people give me money." So they do it again, it becomes like a drug all the attention. All the LV purses, meals, beauty products, etc. they buy for themselves. But I highly doubt they buy gym memberships with the money they extract from others, interesting...

[The Reactionary Tree]

Dont ignore the SJW crowd. Instead, destroy them.

[DetlefMourning]

(09-13-2014 09:37 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 09:36 AM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 02:27 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Completely ignoring them is the same as accepting their current push to dominate every bit of society and every male space. You think they're gonna leave you alone? That's what the video game nerds thought. And the sports guys.

Anything you like to do, including sex, is going to be ruined if these people have their way. Don't believe it? Ask the college students who got kicked out of school and tarred as rapists for having drunken sex.

This isn't a harmless fad.

I'm not saying don't fight to make the world a better place. I just happen to believe that when you have a roach problem, killing individual roaches is 2 percent of the job. You have to clean your house to get rid of the roaches. Anita Sarkeesian is a roach.

Out of curiosity, using your roach and house example. What action would represent cleaning the house in this situation?

At times, you ignore certain things, usually those things that are not going to get worse, but her group of people are crazy, make things up, extract resources, which encourages them to be crazier because they think, "see I'm right people give me money." So they do it again, it becomes like a drug all the attention. All the LV purses they buy for themselves. But I highly doubt they buy gym memberships with the money they extract from others, interesting...

In the short to medium term, which I see as the next several years, I don't think anything is going to change in regards to the culture in this country. The women aren't going to get slimmer and less tatted up, and this climate of political correctness run amok we have, where anybody talking candidly or frankly on race, relationships, sex, foreign policy, the economy, social issues like domestic violence, whatever it is, we have this climate of political correctness that stifles debate and discussion and people get tarred with a digital scarlet letter for being guilty of badthought, that's not changing anytime soon. And in the short to medium term, nothing that any of us do is going to stop or reverse any of that. Digital media and the mobility of how fast information spreads and travels now amplifies this phenomenon. At an individual level, we are just pebbles on a beach.

Anita Sarkeesian is a sideshow and a distraction. There are people with lots of money and lots of power who are more than content to see the proles grab hold of GamerGate like a dog with a toy or a bone in its mouth and not let go. Best as I can tell, the biggest takeaway from GamerGate to me is that there's a disconnect between the attitudes and sensibilities of the vast majority of gamers and the gaming press that covers the industry and pushes out social justice pablum and orthodoxy. They're going to lose readers if that disconnect remains. That will get sorted out on its own.

I think one of the biggest obstacles to the manosphere gaining even more traction and influence is the Jezebels and David Futrelles of the world not even having to bother with debating on the merits, but instead pointing to the small percentage of guys that make (insincere) death and rape threats, or other coarse rhetoric. We should stick to stridently criticizing these people's ideas instead of making it personal. Jezebel vs manosphere is like Yankees vs Red Sox. We should stop fighting Lena Dunham wannabees because they're not the real enemy, just annoying as fuck distractions.

If men's issues are ever going to get any real traction in this country, the movement can't come across as hateful and reactionary, which is how I think the manosphere is unfortunately received by others. I think the biggest priority amongst ourselves is we need to make sure that we are working towards something positive in our own lives despite the culture we live in, and the younger group of guys, our younger brothers, our nephews, our sons, we need to make sure they buy into red pill thinking at an earlier age. Nothing is going to change in the near future, but if we win more people to red pill thinking on a broader scale, that's less slaves for the machine.

[DetlefMourning]

(09-13-2014 09:45 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Dont ignore the SJW crowd. Instead, destroy them.

Like it or not, they run the social climate in this country. And attacking them head on directly when the mainstream media is behind them 100 percent is futile. They have a much bigger bullhorn and they get to intercept and interpret for others what comes out of your bullhorn.

It reminds me of how after 9/11 and in the run-up to the Iraq War, anybody expressing doubts about the wisdom of invading Mesopotamia, or questioning aspects of the military response to 9/11 got branded a pussy, or worse, perhaps a traitor or fifth columnist. There was no room for nuance. There was no such thing as principled anti-war opposition, at least according to the mainstream news. That's not how anti-war opposition is perceived today.

I think this social justice bullshit will play itself out at some point in a similar manner, and since any energy expended or directed at it in the short to medium term is futile, we should be focusing more on building something for whatever will come after it.