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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships
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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Quote: (08-20-2014 10:35 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Me : where are you?
Mimi : ah, I my phone low batt. And Yaqi is stingy won't lend her phone
Me : yaqi is with you? Where are you?
Mimi : yes, she asks me "are you coming or not?". Where are you? I'm in yaqi's car
Me : And where is yaqi car?
Mimi : west side of campus, the red one

Took long enough just to try to ask "where are you?", longer than the time needed to arrive at the destination
Yes, these things happen. And mostly, you will walk with "rage" faces. But, think of this. When you look at it, from her point of view. She's just trying to explain her situations first. And when I arrived, she told me that she's sorry for not to answer the call because her battery low and need to charge first at yaqi's car. But I only call once?
Yes, she's feeling guilty because I might be calls her a couple of times. That's why she go aroundabout way of explaining first then answer. That's the way chinese women go
Please don't blame them
Thank you


For real - I got this the other day. Sometimes I want to hit her in the head with a hammer [Image: tard.gif].

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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Quote: (08-25-2014 07:53 AM)Dagnasty Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2014 10:35 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Me : where are you?
Mimi : ah, I my phone low batt. And Yaqi is stingy won't lend her phone
Me : yaqi is with you? Where are you?
Mimi : yes, she asks me "are you coming or not?". Where are you? I'm in yaqi's car
Me : And where is yaqi car?
Mimi : west side of campus, the red one

Took long enough just to try to ask "where are you?", longer than the time needed to arrive at the destination
Yes, these things happen. And mostly, you will walk with "rage" faces. But, think of this. When you look at it, from her point of view. She's just trying to explain her situations first. And when I arrived, she told me that she's sorry for not to answer the call because her battery low and need to charge first at yaqi's car. But I only call once?
Yes, she's feeling guilty because I might be calls her a couple of times. That's why she go aroundabout way of explaining first then answer. That's the way chinese women go
Please don't blame them
Thank you


For real - I got this the other day. Sometimes I want to hit her in the head with a hammer [Image: tard.gif].

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I must have been dealing with Asian women too long. That conversation didn't even raise an eyebrow.

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^ My thoughts exactly.

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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Yep. I agree, and even more, even if it was on a phone call and not a text, I wouldn't be phased/surprised. Like two entirely different conversations going on - not that its so different with western women. If anyone ever saw that Shit Girls Say video (the episode with Juliette Lewis), its exactly this times ten, and pretty much true.

Great line from the movie Strange Days (written by James Cameron) - "Stop using the time that I'm talking to think about what you're going to say next."

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Strip away judeo-christian ethics ingraining sex is dirty/bad & the idea we're taking advantage of these girls disintegrates. Once you've lost that ethical quandary (which it isn't outside religion) then they've no reason to play the victim, you've no reason to feel the rogue. The interaction is to their benefit.
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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Quote: (08-24-2014 07:58 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Something I was thinking about today is how much more I lie to Asian women than other women.

For instance, in the past, I've always been as brutally honest as possible and upfront about everything - with Western girls. But when an Asian girl asks me questions about things like experiences with past girls (being the prime example), I sense that she doesn't want a real answer, so just tell her what she wants to hear. I still value being honest, so for a lot of things I'll be truthful when it's not in my best interest, but when it comes to shit that doesn't matter in the present moment, I've learned it makes no sense to stir the pot.

Usually I feel like the truth is written there on my face, and I see the acknowledgement in her eyes, but aside from some gentle ribbing from time to time, accusing you of being dishonest, they just play along.

I guess you just adapt. It does beg the question of why they ask about these things in the first place, though, if they don't want a real answer from you.

I would be highly suspicious of any Asian woman that asks about past women, especially sexual details. Chinese women usually think asking things like this is taboo. Usually that tells me that they are very insecure and expect to have a fight one day with you about your cheating. It are just trying to visualize the fight before it happens. In lots of ways, they actually do not trust you at all. It would only make me suspicious if I did nothing to give off that vibe in the first place. If I did, by having raunchy behaviour then, fine I can see where she is coming from.

Any higher quality girl would not do this unless you gave them a strong clue that you would. Given that you are a massive player BB, I can see why you would get pegged with this. Be sure to ask them why when they do this. That way you can either adjust that vibe or behavior or extend it for more mischief.

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^ I think this type of question is pretty common with Southeast Asian women - they are definitely jealous and very insecure. But I do put off a bit of a player vibe, so that may have something to do with it. Then again, it may just have something to do with foreigners in Southeast Asia having a reputation for running through women like a fat kid let loose in a candy store.

Sometimes I completely change the subject and tell them not to ask me questions like that anymore. Usually I give a blatant lie.

Another tactic I often use with girls I'm not serious with yet that ask a question like "How many girls (or Thai girls, for example) have you slept with" or "how many thai girlfriends have you had" is say either zero or something outrageous like 5000 with a smirk on my face. Usually gets a laugh.

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Quote: (08-27-2014 02:45 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

say either zero or something outrageous like 5000 with a smirk on my face. Usually gets a laugh.

I've done this a lot but they always take it seriously

I went to buy some shirts in Paragon last week. One of my main girls (a lovely 7 I met at RCA) asked if I was with another girl and I joked I was:

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Thai girls are fucking crazy [Image: lol.gif]

Ah well, they're hot
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Quote: (08-27-2014 03:01 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

http://oi58.tinypic.com/wcg50o.jpg

So many of 'em have the attention span of a puppy. [Image: laugh7.gif]

If we take this shit seriously and engage them, we'll want to start stabbing our eyeballs out.

Agree and amplify is for your own sanity too.
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Imagine trying to raise a kid with your wife constantly hiding their (or her) fuck-ups behind your back, or saying she'll hold the kids to certain rules and then telling them not to worry about it when you're not around (thus undermining your authority). I think these are relationship problems that occur often in Asia (Asian members feel free to comment), especially in mixed couples .

Interested to hear thoughts and experiences.

Well having myself an Asian mother and a Greek father. My mother was always trying to be strict and control me while when she left my father was cool and was saying to me to do whatever i want [Image: banana.gif]
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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Quote: (08-27-2014 03:01 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

Quote: (08-27-2014 02:45 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

say either zero or something outrageous like 5000 with a smirk on my face. Usually gets a laugh.

I've done this a lot but they always take it seriously

I went to buy some shirts in Paragon last week. One of my main girls (a lovely 7 I met at RCA) asked if I was with another girl and I joked I was:

[Image: wcg50o.jpg]

Thai girls are fucking crazy [Image: lol.gif]

Ah well, they're hot

What's the point of "joking" that you were with another girl? Then you call her crazy when she sends you a stream of texts? She's partly trying to feel you out, and probably partly genuinely hurt. Show some class.

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A lot of my farang friends have regaled me with tales of Asian girls going completely loca on them. e.g. throwing shit, breaking shit, threatening to cut off their shlongs, showing up at their apartments drunk and screaming, etc.

But I've never, ever had this kind of situation come up in almost 19 months of living in SEA. Yeah, I've had to kick a few girls out of my apartment for overstepping boundaries (like opening up my computer while I'm in the bathroom - a big fucking no-no for me --OR-- opening Line right in front of me and chatting with another guy - I tend to get really pissed about that kind of thing. Not because she's seeing another guy but because I don't want to know about it and because she's putting in the position of getting jealous and angry which shows a lack of respect for my emotional energy and how that shit impacts my ability to do business, to train and to live a happy life.)

But other than the infrequent, isolated incidents where the girl misbehaves, it's been totally smooth sailing.

Here's why: I never lie to these chicks. Or to any girls for that matter.

I imply, or tell them directly if need be what the terms of our relationship are. Specifically, that I see other girls and that if she's not OK with that we should stop now. But more and more I don't even have to say this explicitly. It's understood. Don't ask me how it's understood but it is. The girls always know my deal.

Of course, I don't just volunteer information. I practice great discretion. If she asks me what I did this weekend and I spent the weekend fucking other girls, I just say I went out and had a nice time, "what about you, baby?".

Sometimes a girl will press the issue and say "did you fuck another girl?" and I'll just tell her "baby...let's not talk about other girls. I'm with you right now."

I also respect the fact that we're together here-now and she doesn't want to hear about other girls any more than I want to hear about other dudes. At the same time, a woman knows when a man has other women in his life but I'm not rubbing it in her face. So I'm saving face for her and adding a mystery element to my persona. Never a bad thing.

Finally, I give what I expect to get. I always turn off my phone when I'm out with a girl and I give her 100% of my time and energy and attention. And I absolutely demand the same courtesy.

If a girl misbehaves, I let her know that my patience for having my time and attention abused is very limited. If she continues misbehaving, I end it. No fanfare, no long goodbyes. I just cut communications. I don't care how much I liked her. I like myself first and foremost.

And that, too, is a pity because I've had to let some really great girls go because they were being brats and didn't take me seriously when I told them not to waste my time.

I'm not saying that truthfulness is the best mating strategy for everybody. Whatever works for you, God bless. But it works for me and saves me from blowback that would drain me in a way that I refuse to allow.
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Quote: (08-28-2014 02:20 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

What's the point of "joking" that you were with another girl? Then you call her crazy when she sends you a stream of texts? She's partly trying to feel you out, and probably partly genuinely hurt. Show some class.

Plenty of reasons:

1) Tomfoolery. I have been known for horseplay and/or capers in social media exchanges with members of the opposite sex

2) It keeps them on their feet

3) After the fifth time of being called a playboy it gets kinda boring and deserves a silly reply
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Quote: (08-28-2014 10:45 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

3) After the fifth time of being called a playboy it gets kinda boring and deserves a silly reply

This exactly.

Or, especially after the fiftieth time.

It never stops.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
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When I was in China I was talking with a girl from Chongqing:

me: I am going to Chongqing next week
her: this is my hometown
me: yes i know
her: girls in chongqing are very beautiful
me: so you are beautiful ?
her: no no i am an exception, i am not beautiful (she was very pretty)

That kind of conversation happens to me more than one time in China. They tell you that the girls from X province/city (same as where they are form) are the most beautiful in China then when I asked or said something like "so you are the most beautiful girl in China?" they always answered something no "no i am not" "no i am ugly".

I know Chinese are modest, but I did not know if they were saying by expecting me to say that they are beautiful. What do you guys think ?
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Quote: (08-28-2014 01:28 PM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

When I was in China I was talking with a girl from Chongqing:

me: I am going to Chongqing next week
her: this is my hometown
me: yes i know
her: girls in chongqing are very beautiful
me: so you are beautiful ?
her: no no i am an exception, i am not beautiful (she was very pretty)

That kind of conversation happens to me more than one time in China. They tell you that the girls from X province/city (same as where they are form) are the most beautiful in China then when I asked or said something like "so you are the most beautiful girl in China?" they always answered something no "no i am not" "no i am ugly".

I know Chinese are modest, but I did not know if they were saying by expecting me to say that they are beautiful. What do you guys think ?

My wife even did that to me. I think only 1 Chinese woman did not do that to me in some way. Just ignore them or laugh at them. My favorite retort is to get a little tough and start calling them a liar and/or demanding them to prove it. Tell them, "Let me be the judge of that!" It's like doing all that neg/asshole game stuff minus the opener. Just let em have it.

I like also demanding that they send me a photo of them with their friends in the picture so that I can tell her who is prettier.

Then I use a photo editor and write numbers above each girls head and send it back to them. I score "generous" on them, but keep it real at the same time. If one of their friends is a 9, then fuck it! Write 9 above that chick's head! Whatever you do, do not lie. That is a reverse shit test fail, that you would have demanded.

Then reel her back in. She knows her friend is a bad bitch. Just gloss over that and tell her how hot she is compared to the other 3 in the photos or whatever. I just mention the 9 or whatever once and just build her up a little with plenty of nice tasteful compliments. Sometimes I pick on the shitty clothing style of her friends and say she has the best taste. Look for a flaw in the others and harp on that hard.

Don't think it will give her a big head. What it does give her is confidence that she can trust you.

If you game is super smooth and pipeline oriented, you have to modify it a bit. Keep it playful and stay super honest about everyone. Only do this if you have not fucked her yet and barely know her. Then make sure you have her added on QQ so that you will have her on Qzone. Then, start friendzoning her. You can even say, "You are not ugly at all, but don't puff her up over her looks either. Then ask her in a non-suspicious way which of those girls learned English in school with her. Hell if you do it right and her temperament permits, you could ask her if she can introduce you to her classmates or colleagues. Then send them all friend requests in QQ or Qzone, in a mix of Chinese and English to see if they will ad you. Put in the request that you are a friend of <that girl>.

Once they add you, now you have access to more 6-9 gals. Even if she got an plain 5 with high English skills, add them too. Then get to know them, friendzone, then PIPELING AGAIN![Image: evil.gif]

You can tell that I love pipelining Chinese women.... it's soooooo easy. You get access to girls that would never date online for stigma reasons or whatever, and most are easy to take from a local if you can speak a little bit of Chinese to capture initial interest. It's better than daygame because they can tell people or family, "I met Mac Chicken through my friend Ling...." Just resist the urge to jump on the first hot one you see, like a 9. once you have built a huge circle start a score/priority list and then start breaking them down in order. Until then keep it friendly to avoid suspicion.

EDIT: If you get them added to your QQ/Qzone page you can see their friends list. Any girl they take photos with, will be on that list!!! The avatar photo just wont be their faces. So you will need to play nice and look at their pages to figure out who is who. If you are really sneaky and can read Mandarin, you can easily figure out which friend is which and ask her about the people that comment on her Qzone page to figure it out or weibo even for that matter. The Wechat app has its own profile page too like this. Do it here too if you have the time.

Just don't raise suspicion and come off as thirsty. She will player hate behind your back and tell her friend some horny laowai wants to talk to you. They might fail on that, but most of the time they succeed in cockblocking you. Use the excuse that you are looking for buddies to practice Mandarin with. Grab one or two of her male friends to throw the scent off and talk to them about basketball or soccer for like 5 mins. [Image: wink.gif]

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Wanna hear a funny story related to this?

One Chinese girl I knew who felt that she was ugly/fat or whatever, I talked her into showing me a pic of herself and her friends. After I complimented her looks and dissed a bunch of the other girls except for one 8 and one 9, a pic I still have I think on my pc somewhere.... [Image: tongue.gif] , anyway after a couple weeks she fesses up and tells me that the girl was not really her. I was like, okey....then lets video chat then. When I saw her I was like WTFFFFFFFF!? She was hotter than the bitch she actually showed me. Even hit one of my fetish markers hard. I was so stunned I couldn't even get mad. She giggled like a silly bitch. Of course I dumped her later for other reasons a year later, but her little white lies demonstrated that you have to judge based on the quality of the white lie.

The lesson at the time was, stop believing all those photos and try to coax them into doing a QQ video chat but there are lots of additional lessons that can be learned off that experience as well, such as Chinese girls immaturity, insecurity, aspects of online game, trust, due diligence, etc.

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#92

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Thanks for the reply.

Did this happen to you only online?

I have met all the girls in real life before they said that kind of stuff to me.

Good advise on QQ. I did not really use it first I preferred WeChat. I did not really pipeline in China, I was just using the "see around" option on WeChat.
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Quote: (08-28-2014 03:12 PM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

Thanks for the reply.

Did this happen to you only online?

I have met all the girls in real life before they said that kind of stuff to me.

Good advise on QQ. I did not really use it first I preferred WeChat. I did not really pipeline in China, I was just using the "see around" option on WeChat.

Both online and offline. Almost all Chinese women do this. In the US too if they are still a little fobby. The ones in the US quickly realize that their 5 is now a 7, so that is a race against time.

WeChat friend finder is okay, but do not use it like a crutch. Always follow through and finish strong with a QQ connection. WeChat users can keep you at arms length with WEchat because it is a phone only app. QQ is PC, Phone, tablet, etc. You can talk to girls that have office jobs using their QQ. With Wechat they can kinda ignore you or be out of reach if their boss wont let them play on their phone while working. I'm glad this came up, I wrote a bunch of stuff about this exact thing to someone in PMs and thought everyone else could benefit.

Let me quote what I sent him without his name, etc.

His question was about why did girls not give him their QQ numbers, but only gave him their Wechat. They even told him that QQ is for their work only. (A big god damned lie) His original question centered around daygame mostly.

Quote:Quote:

It appears that I just realized that I left out intricate details on daygame itself on my guide. I think an older edition may have had some more lines about it, but nevermind that. Thing is that day game kinda sucks for everyone. If it really sucks for black men, it is very inconsistent for non-black men. It's just toooo random. That said, if that is your preferred method, by all means I will not try to force you to stop doing that. If you want to meet quality faster, you will need to get online sooner than later.

The girls you may want to find are the following:

1. Girls with alot of extra free time.
2. Girls out of college or high school
3. Girls with easy peasy office sitdown jobs that have access to a PC and their boss does not give many fucks about anything.

Online game works in a hidden way. Many of these girls fit the 3 things above I listed. Knowing some Mandarin without any actual knowledge of the culture is almost useless. Chinese people in general are semi-workaholic. Most of the flakes you are getting is for work reasons or school, then a smaller percentage already have a bf, a sponsor, a sugar daddy, or many other reasons.

A girl with free time that is actually interested in looking for a man can never be beaten. All of these high quality girls require a little bit of cooking. They will not fuck immediately. You must spend time talking to them on QQ or Wechat. Make sure you get both. Wechat is phone only and even a gal with alot of free time cannot stay glued to her phone to talk 1-2 hours with you non stop. Build a stable. Slow roast your 1-3 top prospects and have fun with the easy gals. Before you know it you will have dumped all your easy gals and have 4-5 top prospects that you spend all day talking to.

Be willing to take a train on a weekend to get to another nearby city to chase down top quality tail. Many top prospects in your locale are immune to Foreign God Factor. A top shelf gal will always have top shelf Chinese man prospects and that is much much easier to pass through parents and be set for life. So what you want are the glitches in the matrix. Top notch women that are sick of Chinese men's shit and do not care what money they have because they are not poor either. Online is where you will find those. As you can see, finding women like this in the street could be gut wrenching difficult or just very very time consuming. If you are a teacher, you could pipeline your way into a few of these, via the relationships you build with your female and male students. Without anchors, daygame has serious limits. Complete fluency in Mandarin makes daygame reliable. Also where you hunt matters alot. A College area is better than a certain downtown area. A subway/mall area is better than a park area.

I could go on, but let me know if this helps or not. I would need a little bit more information as to what you are trying to hunt for to get a better idea of what other options are available to you.

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#94

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I should experience a long term relationship with a SEA girl. Just to compare the difference with a Russian girl.
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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Damn, this thread literally killed my desire to go to Asia. I had a feeling Asian women would be more loyal comparing to women from other parts of the world, I guess that is not true. I have been thinking about having kids lately and because Asian people are known for having high IQ's, I was planning to impregnate an Asian woman. But I don't think I want my kids to be raised in Asia and marrying these girls and bring them to where I live is not an option. I will probably just check out few Asian countries for the fun of it.
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Quote: (09-07-2014 10:13 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Damn, this thread literally killed my desire to go to Asia. I had a feeling Asian women would be more loyal comparing to women from other parts of the world, I guess that is not true. I have been thinking about having kids lately and because Asian people are known for having high IQ's, I was planning to impregnate an Asian woman. But I don't think I want my kids to be raised in Asia and marrying these girls and bring them to where I live is not an option. I will probably just check out few Asian countries for the fun of it.

Pitt, I think all lizards require game. Depending on the feminism sweep of the country, some lizards require more than others. If you do your due diligence, I think these asian countries should be ok.

I used to date an Asian lizard when I lived in London. She was the most obedient lizard I have ever encountered and set me in good standings if I were to try an Asian (who are not number one on my list for attraction).

She would do everything I requested (and I'm not a demanding type of guy per se) and if there was something that we didn't agree with, we would discuss it without that underlying pot of volatile emotion you get with other types of lizards.

She didn't have the sense of entitlement you get from other Western lizards. She was born in Asia but they fled when she was like 2 so she was definitely educated under Western terms but her family unit always kept it on lock and ensured that the women (and men) stayed on point.

If I were to branch out and consider a wifey, I'd probably take on an Asian. As said, I'm not that attracted to them but I'm partial to a pinay (cos of the mix).

But no culture has perfect lizards (and it has never been this way). Social media has given us an insight into things that were once hidden. Game helps to keep the ship in order.

Game in an LTR:

1) Implicitly reminding a lizard that she is fortunate to have you and not obliged.
For example, engaging in friendly discussions with attractive lizards when she obviously knows.

2) Not engaging too much in her emotional shenanigans. I didn't get this too much from the Asian lizard, she would ask me at times if I missed black lizards and their big bums. I would tell her that I am wondering if I should make rice or garri for dinner *ignored her attempt to engage me in useless dialogue*.

There are other examples but you get the gist, some cultures require a lot more game than others.

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#97

Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Great thread idea, BB.

Also, the more posts I read that mention Taiwan the more interested in it I get. I think I'll make Taipei my next longterm trip.
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#98

Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Asian girls will keep your back in public, but intersexual relationships are still people to people. That shit don't change.

Girls be girls, dig?

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Quote: (09-12-2014 01:05 AM)iop890 Wrote:  

Great thread idea, BB.

Also, the more posts I read that mention Taiwan the more interested in it I get. I think I'll make Taipei my next longterm trip.

Been twice, will probably move there in 2015.

The quality is high - and it's hard as fuck to close so you won't be rolling high numbers. Your game must be tight and it's best if you know how to speak Mandarin.
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Asian Women and Lying in the Context of Long-term Relationships

Quote: (09-07-2014 10:13 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Damn, this thread literally killed my desire to go to Asia. I had a feeling Asian women would be more loyal comparing to women from other parts of the world, I guess that is not true. I have been thinking about having kids lately and because Asian people are known for having high IQ's, I was planning to impregnate an Asian woman. But I don't think I want my kids to be raised in Asia and marrying these girls and bring them to where I live is not an option. I will probably just check out few Asian countries for the fun of it.


You are making the mistake of comparing personality and cultural flaws to overall value systems (i.e loyalty). This is an Asian woman's quirkiness on communication styles of telling little "white lies" or avoidant-style dialog as opposed to "passive aggressiveness" from Westerners and Anglosphere women. None of these have anything to do with loyalty at all.

If you read my Chinese Dating Guide in my signature around the top or beginning I describe why Chinese women are incredibly loyal. I will also add that my wife would take a bullet for me if I am too slow to pull her back first. This girl has given me her last money countless times. She has on several occasions tried to force me to eat the last of whatever dinner or snack while traveling when either we ran out of cash or there was nothing around. I usually just break it in half or just save it for later until we can get back to a city or ATM, whatever. She would rather starve first before I go hungry. My American exwife would never do something like this, before she got fat and especially not after she got fat. My Chinese wife has told me more than one occasion that "I am her entire world." She cannot be still or listen whenever I start discussing my last will and testament and estate planning. She hates that and doesn't wanna hear it. It does not matter what happens to me lately, losing jobs, threatening to be sued by my exwife, or any other financial issues, her commitment to me never changes. She becomes a zealot against all of my enemies. I usually have to tell her, now now lets not get carried away.... I used to think for all my life, that my mom was my biggest cheerleader. Well since my Chinese wife has entered my life, she has replaced my mother in that role. My mom just might be the loudest one if anything now.

Even Badwolf speaks very highly of his wife's loyalty, I will send him a PM so he can share something as well. I am not the only man I know with a super loyal Chinese wife. I personally know at least 3 handfuls of other couples that I have met, mixed and Chinese-Chinese couples, where the wife is very impressive as a loyal companion.

Loyalty cannot be bought. Any mobsters will tell you that. So if you want a loyal wife in Asia, you still have to know the rules (the culture and values) on how to carry out that task. For example, even a girl from the Philippines that is loyal enough to you for all you know on basic things, but might have sex with your brother behind your back, because you missed certain cues about her personality and lack of religious values. Every region has it's own cultural gotchas. China, Japan, Korea, the PI, Thailand, Vietnam, etc. All these countries have these little gotchas you have to look out for.

Personality flaws are in all people in all parts of the world. Any woman who is an ESFJ personality type, will always use guilt manipulation against you and others to make you feel bad enough to do something they want you to do. They usually are incapable of realizing they are doing it as well. It's just a personality flaw. They are just 1 of the 16 types I randomly picked just now. They have a long list of things they are great about that other types do not have as well. Life is all about trade-offs. You need to find out what deal breakers lie within a particular woman and her culture as well. If Philippine women's habit of sending money back to her poor family pisses you off, no matter how small the amount is, don't date them. Don't even date rich ones. Money giving is part of their culture. If hong bao culture in China pisses you off for some strange reason, don't date Chinese women for LTR. If Japanese women's goofiness/kawaii culture stuff irritates you, find other women that are more serious or mature then. If you hate kimchi, the way it smells, the taste, and why almost every Korean meal has it, don't date those women either. I put Korea waay down on my personal list of countries to hunt for a LTR/wife in, just for that reason alone. Food is super important in East Asian cultures. If you cannot eat it or their main staples, you are not likely to be popular there or with that girl's family. I cannot stress this enough.

Men looking for LTR and Marriage need to find out what stuff they CAN tolerate. My wife's roundabout talking and poor English skills, is not a dealbreaker for me. If anything it is a minor annoyance at worst. Outside of all of that, she is damn near flawless. I honestly have no right to complain about her considering what I used to have and could have had, if the USA did not allow outside travel and passports. She makes me extremely happy.

As for that IQ stuff, I can kinda see where you are going with that, but there are dumbasses in every country. The Chinese you see in America and the West are rich and educated. Go to China, and you will find a country filled to the brim with backwater dumbasses. China has the highest level of illiteracy in the world. Do no fool yourself into thinking I will just pluck the easiest flower I can find in country X and my babies will be smart. You will be dead wrong. Those IQ charts by country that certain kinds of men in the Manosphere like to parade around to shame others with, need to be taken with a grain of salt. Don't get caught up in the hype. EQ is just as important as IQ as well. That said, our newborn is around 6 six weeks old and is doing things older babies usually do, she cannot be tricked with pacifiers and bottles and will swat them away with precise hand slaps. Maybe she gets it from me maybe her mom? Probably from both of us I say.

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