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Sounds almost too good to be true. I suppose I can't knock it until I try it.
It's not too good to be true; it's a useful tool for anyone who wants to be more sociable in a social setting without drinking a lot. This is especially true for introverts, but I know plenty of extroverts who use it too, and have a great time with it.
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Be careful not use that stuff with alcohol. You'll feel way drunker than you might be comfortable with.
I took some and then had a red bull/vodka and i was "off" for the rest of the night.
If the alcohol is having a much stronger effect because of the phenibut, you're taking too much of it. Keep your dosage more moderate (1-1.5 grams at the most) and that won't be as much of an issue. If you're flippant about your dosage (and it's easy to be flippant about it, because phenibut by itself really isn't that strong of a compound in a small dose) that's when you run the risk of alcohol having double to triple its normal effect. If you take one gram of phenibut and three hours later have three vodka sodas, for example, you're not going to feel like you had eight vodka sodas. But if you took three grams of phenibut and then had three vodka sodas, the alcohol may effect you a lot more than it normally would.
As for the vodka/red bull combination, I can't drink red bull because of an allergy, but a lot of people use caffeine and other stimulants like modafinil and racetams to potentiate phenibut, so that can alter the effects in addition to just the alcohol. I personally only combine a small to moderate dose of phenibut with alcohol (usually a small to moderate amount, but I can also drink a lot with a 1-1.5 gram dose if I want to, the key as I said before is to keep the phenibut dose low) and occasionally a small amount of kratom, or just take the phenibut by itself (for meetings, or any situation where I'd be driving, but still want to be social).
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Kinjustu, would you say the psychological effects of phenibut were the same as alcohol?
I still find this to be too good to be true as the drug is cheap and completely legal.
No, they're not the same, but you can use phenibut to loosen up and grease the wheels of human interaction just like you would a couple of glasses of wine or a couple of drinks. For me, it works a lot better, because I can completely control the dosage.
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But that's irrelevant because a man should be desirable when he walks in the door. What men need help with is lowering social inhibitions and getting past slut-shaming. Alcohol is the best tool to do that.
Phenibut lowers my social inhibitions at least as well as alcohol does, and in small doses, without any impairment.
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Especially when you are feeling shy and rusty. Start drinking and before you know it you are making out with that 8 that you were too scared to approach 15 minutes before.
I think it is pretty hard to fake high drunken energy.
With Phenibut, you don't have to fake it either, it puts you in a good, happy, sociable party mood. Give it time to kick in, especially the first couple of times (like three hours).
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Any player I've known that does well consistently in high energy clubs, raves, music festivals is great at getting smashed while keeping his game tight.
I have never met a player that does well consistently in these environments that goes sober or on a 1 or 2 drink buzz.
^^^Phenibut is a good alternative to this, and a good way to maintain that high energy level without spending a lot of money on drinks. Take some Phenibut before you go out, have an occasional drink, re-dose after 3-5 hours. You can save a lot of cash on your bar tab if you normally have say 10-15 drinks and can cut it down to 2-5 with Phenibut.
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Some people - those with addictive personalities - are more susceptible to the effects of alcohol than others, and we have to be most careful of using it as a crutch.
You have to be careful with Phenibut too. I think it may lower seratonin and dopamine levels for a couple of days afterwards, especially if you use a lot of it. I also find I need more sleep for the next couple of days after taking it.
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Alcohol just seems to be my sure-fire way of getting that damn ball moving when its at a dead stop.
YMMV,
Phenibut does the same thing for me.
It was designed by Soviet scientists for Russian cosmonauts (per Wikipedia):
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Phenibut was synthesized at the I. M. Herzen Leningrad Pedagogical Institute USSR and the Institute of Experimental Medicine, Academy of Medical Sciences USSR by Professor V. V. Perekalin's team.
Phenibut is mandated standard equipment in a Russian cosmonaut's medical kit. The use of "conventional" tranquilizers for stress and anxiety makes patients drowsy, which was deemed unacceptable for cosmonauts; phenibut, however, lowers stress levels without adversely affecting performance. In 1975 phenibut was included in the cosmonauts' kit for those who participated in the Apollo-Soyuz joint mission.
so it's designed to lower anxiety but still allow you to drive a spaceship. I find myself getting absent minded and drowsy if I take too much of it, so again, dosage control is key.
You can order it from a reputable source
here. The HCI (which is on backorder as I write this) is much better than the FAA, which in my opinion is very weak. Every shipment comes with a certificate of chemical analysis. That $16 for 40 grams batch lasted me about 3-4 months.
Here is eight pages of anecdotes from guys on the forum that have tried this stuff.
Again, it's not the end-all be-all, but it's a useful tool if you want to be sociable while drinking less or no alcohol. You can save a lot of money on bar bills while keeping your head in the game. Also, sex and orgasms are more intense, especially for women. I highly recommend dosing up with your regulars or anyone you might want to bang later on that night. Trust me, you'll have a good time.
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