[drengr]

Phenibut seems like a fucking awesome drug.
After some research i have concluded ill give it a shot, but with caution. (addiction and withdrawal is a factor here just as it acts the same way as benzos)
If any of you decide to go for it, please treat it with respect.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comme..._phenibut/

[kinjutsu]

(08-11-2014 04:36 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

Kinjustu, would you say the psychological effects of phenibut were the same as alcohol?
I still find this to be too good to be true as the drug is cheap and completely legal.

Somewhat yes but i felt my reaction was sluggish and that i was sort of trapped inside my own body. There wasn't real time movement to my body.
This feeling was after i peaked it lasted for about 1hr-1hr 30 minutes.

Initially though the feeling was great. I felt aware and "on point". I always had something to say to girls, i never had a mental block.
(This was a few years ago when i was still a beginner in game)

[Foolsgo1d]

I can confirm that if you can handle yourself at the drunk stage and make words flow off the tongue whilst backing it up with attitude, you should be getting make outs and +notches with ease in the right environments.

[MrXY]

(08-11-2014 05:44 PM)BarryInSF Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 04:53 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I won't even go on a date with a girl who doesn't drink and in online dating I screen for girls who like to drink.

Totally agreed. Read the section about "the taste of beer" in this awesome blog post: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/the-be...rst-dates/

Haha yeah I read that article years ago which is why my main screening question is "Do you like beer?" Even if she says no, she will usually proceed to tell you what her drinking habits are-that she likes wine or cocktails or whatever. If she says that she doesn't drink much she goes onto the back burner and if she says she doesn't drink she gets deleted.

The article is correct that there's a high correlation between a girl liking beer and her fucking you without too much hassle.

I've speculated why this might be; I've noticed that the beer likers tend to be more "down to earth" and easygoing than the average woman so maybe they are simply more agreeable. The ones who like craft beers seem to be more open to new experiences. No correlation to attractiveness, intelligence or class that I have noticed, except that craft beer likers tend to be more intelligent. There is a definite correlation to age, however, younger women prefer sweeter drinks and are less likely to like beer than older ones.

I have a theory that maybe beer likers have higher testosterone than average which would of course also give them a higher sex drive. Would be a great subject for a scientific study

[BarryInSF]

I went on a Tinder date a few weeks ago and the woman nursed the same Margarita for two hours. Needless to say I knew I wasn't getting the bang.

[MrXY]

The second drink is a huge litmus text

[RexImperator]

Dionysus was the Ancient Greek god of wine and seduction.

[bacan]

Yeah alcohol is a very powerful drug -- basically a great mood in a glass.I think it would be ideal to get into the state you want to be in without having to drink too much.

This article made the front page of reddit yesterday talking about alcohol's effect on your sleep, testosterone and weight loss: http://www.builtlean.com/2012/11/26/alco...ight-loss/

I've actually lost notches by overdoing it though too. Just got way too drunk and turned the girl off or even just lost her when I was black out drunk with no memory of what happened ..

These days I'm taking a break from alcohol and when I start up again I think I will try to drink only 1-2 drinks at a time.

[Pride male]

Reminds me of Raj from Big Bang Theory. Alcohol makes me feel more confident and women look more beautiful.

[horn]

I also don't waste time on girls who don't drink. In fact, I have convinced more than one to start drinking when we went out on a date. [It's not like they had never drank, just not recently. ]

[NFallin]

Shit man good for you. I went to chasing summer only on the saturday and was holding onto a girl for dear life in a sea of dick right at the front.

[The_e_man]

(08-13-2014 10:14 PM)NFallin Wrote:  

Shit man good for you. I went to chasing summer only on the saturday and was holding onto a girl for dear life in a sea of dick right at the front.

Yeah, I find the front you will mostly get the hardcore ravers and people there only for the music. Honestly I know what you are saying though, those two days were a battleground.
I just pulled the creep factor up to a 10 and then I started pulling like nobody's business

[kinjutsu]

I missed out on chasing summer sadly...
You guys in YYC?

[Dangleman]

My understanding of alcohol is the more I drink the uglier the girl can be that I sleep with. What rating was the broad you took home perhaps the alcohol just allowed you to follow a troll under her bridge

[The_e_man]

(08-15-2014 05:12 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

I missed out on chasing summer sadly...
You guys in YYC?

I'm in YEG but make it down to cow town a few times a year.

[The_e_man]

(08-15-2014 11:46 PM)Dangleman Wrote:  

My understanding of alcohol is the more I drink the uglier the girl can be that I sleep with. What rating was the broad you took home perhaps the alcohol just allowed you to follow a troll under her bridge

The girl I fucked in the bathroom stall was a hard 8. The girl who I fucked later that night in her hotel, probably a soft 4 at best lol.

I see what you're saying man, but I'm telling you alcohol is much more powerful than simply lowering standards.

[Cmanpwn]

(08-16-2014 05:39 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 11:46 PM)Dangleman Wrote:  

My understanding of alcohol is the more I drink the uglier the girl can be that I sleep with. What rating was the broad you took home perhaps the alcohol just allowed you to follow a troll under her bridge

The girl I fucked in the bathroom stall was a hard 8. The girl who I fucked later that night in her hotel, probably a soft 4 at best lol.

I see what you're saying man, but I'm telling you alcohol is much more powerful than simply lowering standards.

You went from a 8 to a 4? :0 da fuq

[kinjutsu]

Hahaha oh geez.

I agree with the power of alcohol...
A few years ago i went on a small random pub crawl. It was only 1 bus.
My friend invited me at the last minute, i meet up and there is 5 of us total.
After the 1st stop we run down the the street to the liquor store and share a 26 of captain morgans and use rockstar vodka as the chaser...we got fucked so fast.
After we arrived at the 3rd venue i don't really remember much but of what i do remember is:

Hitting on the group leader of the pub crawl. Dancing/making out with her in the corner of the club and finger banging under her skirt.

After we got back on the bus i told a girl i'm going to be a doctor, she said she needs a boob job and that i should become a plastic surgeon. Some how i convinced her to show me her boobs. Then i convinced her to give me head on the bus in front of 15 or so people.

After we get to the last venue i ended up dancing with some korean girls. I took one of them home. The korean girl watched me get head from the other girl.

My friend was like i never knew you had that kinda game, i was like neither did i.

[Dalaran1991]

On alcohol what is your most effective routines and types? Cocktails, wine, shot, long drinks, spirits on the rocks?

As an ex bartender I realize that cocktails and kirs actually are the most effective compared to Vodka and other heavy drinks. There are more sugars in these so it get absorbs into your system way quicker. Also when drinking these your mental switch is different. While downing vodka shots you know its the heavy shit so your body is morphologically on guard, which make it more resistant.

Personally Ive always grabbed one or two glasses of wine or cocktail with the girl, then say something like "I can make much better stuff than this, lets me show ya" then take her home and make her my signature drink. Works for me so far, but I would still like something that get you intoxicated quicker. Long Island Ice Tea is cool but I dont always have all the ingredients.

[HankRearden]

I was going to post that I have never met a player who doesn't rely, in some way, on alcohol for club gaming, until I remembered the sole guy I I have gone out with who can game without alcohol (although admits to using drugs frequently):
Spider.

Every other guy I know (including guys who have 100+ notches under the age of 25) use alcohol heavily.

It's actually a shame, and I'm trying to drink less and less on nights out now.

[horn]

totally agree Hank. Find myself drinking a bit less and less each year after peak consumption about 12 years ago.

[Redwood]

I'm not entirely against alcohol to help your game, but I have to say that if your relying on it too often to relieve approach anxiety, then your inner game is basically fucked.

[jariel]

(08-16-2014 05:39 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

The girl I fucked in the bathroom stall was a hard 8. The girl who I fucked later that night in her hotel, probably a soft 4 at best lol.

[The_e_man]

jariel - I was considering not even bringing up my personal anecdote for simply that reason.
In any event, I meant to put this thread up to discuss alcohol and its place in game.

Believe me or don't, its completely up to you man.

[Felix]

I just don't understand all the Phenibut praise. It's just as addictive as Benzodiazepines with muted effects. This reminds me of the Kratom craze where everyone claimed it was some wonder drug with no addictive properties.

The addictive properties are very real to the above 2 drugs, much like alcohol, much like any benzo or benzo derivative.

Its possible to purchase Benzodiazepine analogs off the clearnet for prices cheaper than Phenibut. Its also more effective. Its also just as addictive. Its also just as legal (in most countries).