Quote: (07-31-2014 02:40 PM)weambulance Wrote:
Um... those aren't "techniques". That's basic internal/external game. Explain to me how being physically attractive, interesting, and socially competent is the fast lane to the friend zone, if you don't mind.
If you do more, you won't be in the friend zone. But if it's all you do, you will be.
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I am having a serious problem with the attitude in this thread that game at its core is about manipulation or tricks at all. That's bullshit, and I've never used tricks or manipulation to get pussy.
And what is wrong with this attitude?
If what you're doing works, keep on doing it.
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How is being experienced with women, knowing how to read them, and how to build attraction and escalate manipulation in any but the strictest sense?
Here are two definitions.
ma·nip·u·late
verb (used with object), ma·nip·u·lat·ed, ma·nip·u·lat·ing.
1. to manage or influence skillfully, especially in an unfair manner: to manipulate people's feelings.
2. to handle, manage, or use, especially with skill, in some process of treatment or performance: to manipulate a large tractor.
Another thing is that manipulating people is largely a NON-VERBAL exercise. It's about pacing, voice tone, body language, and all this other bullshit. It's the cliche: "It's not what you say, but how you say it."
I know a guy who was living off strippers for years. He wasn't good looking at all either. This guy didn't work, and people were always doing things for him. They'd give him a ride, help him move. It truly proved that game trumps everything, and it certainly works if you're a lazy bum with no job. And if it works for those guys, just think what it will do for a guy who does have a job.
The bottom line is that being a good guy doesn't matter. It's all about how good or bad your game is.