[dawson]

To be fair you have to live in a decent sized city for online to work well. The other awesome thing about online that you can't do offline is you can line up talent in places you are going for fun (with your buddies) or for business. Instead of trying to run game (when you have a short window in a place) or hit a strip club you can line up 18-24 year olds and close right away.

[weambulance]

(07-23-2014 02:48 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 02:41 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

Hmm, one or two girls through online efforts I think. I haven't really tried, though, because I've spent 90% of my time in small town Alaska since online game became a real thing. When I move to a real city in the next few weeks I'm going to put some time into maximizing my online game. I think I'll kill it with some effort, simply because I'm good looking and my text/chat game is solid, though of course it could be better. The biggest problem for me is my age (late 20s), which I just lie about.

why lie about the age? late 20's and 30's seems to be a perfect age to get women of any age.

I banged a 21 year old last week, I'm 30. I know lots of other dudes bang youngn's at 30+

I don't lie in person, but plenty of college girls (my preferred prey) are only looking at guys up to ~25 online. So I just adjust my age to say I'm 23-24, to maximize my visibility to young girls. I don't think I look particularly young, but girls often guess I'm in my early 20s anyway because I'm in college. I don't want to be auto-rejected by some chick's preference settings before she even knows I exist, that's all. I've played around with different profiles in the past, out of curiosity not because I was in a real position to bang any of the girls, and simply changing my age from 28 to 24 yielded the largest increase in interest.

My age hardly ever comes up if I meet a girl in person.

[MtnMan]

Ok gotcha, makes sense. I was thinking you were lieing in person. Yea hamsters dont like old men when they see the number on the screen. IRL however, I think many prefer them.

[civpro]

2 out of 11, so 18%.

[Rubio93]

In my world, online is CRUCIAL, and this is despite the fact that as a musician I'm out there sometimes several times a week in front of live audiences.

Even if I meet a girl on a gig, I usually can't get with her the same night because of logistics (I can't just leave my gear behind).... and here in Colombia Facebook and Whatsapp rule the day. A lot of these girls still live at home and can't have a sexy conversation by voice because their families will hear them. They can't pick up their cell phones while at work/school either, but can usually get a few lines of chat in to set up a meeting. Plus data plans are cheap, and there is no unlimited talk/text here. My data plan actually has UNLIMITED Whatsapp.

Having said that, the majority of new girls simply add me on Facebook and start talking to me. My strategy is just to get them on Whatsapp for convenience, and to get them to physically meet up ASAP (hard with my schedule). There are quite a few tire-kickers out there on Face (as well as people who want to talk to me for legitimate business reasons) so my job is just to qualify people ASAP and not waste time on them.

I don't think the online thing has affected me IRL at all. As a matter of fact 2014 has so far been the most successful year ever for me. I hardly poke my nose outside my house without a new prospect cropping up somewhere. TBH, even in packed bars and clubs, typically the women are the ones who approach me, although I have absolutely no qualms about approaching whenever I feel like it.

I have a close friend here who swears by Tinder, pulls on average once a week off of it. He's not good looking at all, but has good game and also is a musician, which never hurts. I've never bothered with Tinder because I'm already swamped just with Facebook!

[puckerman]

(07-23-2014 11:37 PM)Rubio93 Wrote:  

In my world, online is CRUCIAL, and this is despite the fact that as a musician I'm out there sometimes several times a week in front of live audiences.

Even if I meet a girl on a gig, I usually can't get with her the same night because of logistics (I can't just leave my gear behind).... and here in Colombia Facebook and Whatsapp rule the day.

And as you pointed out, this happened because you already met them in person. That means your bangs are from them seeing you in the flesh, not online.

[Avarence]

42.8%.... tinder works

[Rubio93]

(07-24-2014 05:00 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 11:37 PM)Rubio93 Wrote:  

In my world, online is CRUCIAL, and this is despite the fact that as a musician I'm out there sometimes several times a week in front of live audiences.

Even if I meet a girl on a gig, I usually can't get with her the same night because of logistics (I can't just leave my gear behind).... and here in Colombia Facebook and Whatsapp rule the day.

And as you pointed out, this happened because you already met them in person. That means your bangs are from them seeing you in the flesh, not online.

That's only maybe 20% of the total though, the other 80% start off online, almost always Facebook.

[party1981]

About 90% of my notches are from online dating.

Old school players will hate on online dating. My own view is more nuanced, but I don't want to start a big argument about that.

[Mujeriego]

Maybe 1-5% of my bangs come from online and that's limited to Tinder. I've found my ROI to be much better in person.

[blacknwhitespade]

(07-23-2014 02:09 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 01:58 PM)dawson Wrote:  

This is not to say that you can't run mad game, approach a ton and score. But with a relatively small amount of effort (when compared to offline only) since March I have scored 22 new women, none below a 7. Most 8s and 9s with an 85% first date close rate and a CPO (cost per orgasm) of ~$30. Quite frankly I think offline to find new talent is a sucker move compared to the efficiency of online.

not to be a dick but..........first post, and this paragraph make me think

Yes, anyone who writes something you even slightly disagree with is a troll.

[MtnMan]

(07-28-2014 01:59 PM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 02:09 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  

(07-23-2014 01:58 PM)dawson Wrote:  

This is not to say that you can't run mad game, approach a ton and score. But with a relatively small amount of effort (when compared to offline only) since March I have scored 22 new women, none below a 7. Most 8s and 9s with an 85% first date close rate and a CPO (cost per orgasm) of ~$30. Quite frankly I think offline to find new talent is a sucker move compared to the efficiency of online.

not to be a dick but..........first post, and this paragraph make me think

Yes, anyone who writes something you even slightly disagree with is a troll.

where do you see the part where I disagree? It just sounded like a VERY strong statement, and it was his first post.

[cmrocks]

Here's a question for you guys that get a fair number of online bangs. On average, which girls are better looking, the ones you meet online or the ones you meet in person?

For me, no question, all the best looking women that I've slept with, I met in person. I probably just suck at selling myself well online.

[MtnMan]

I have a small sample size, but they are slightly better looking in real life. I've actually met a couple online chicks that were legit hot, and better than pics. But that is the exception.

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

OkCupid and POF girls are trolls.

SA girls are pretty cute though and they bang for the cost of some drinks and an appetizer at a fancy place.

[blacknwhitespade]

(07-29-2014 03:38 AM)ElBorrachoInfamoso Wrote:  

OkCupid and POF girls are trolls.

I started an OkCupid search last week and I think I've already given up. 80-90% of the girls within a 60 mile radius of me are fatties, and most of them are hideous fatties!! Very little genuine talent, I'm disappointed.

[Gorgiass]

60-80%, online supplemented by shows and other semi-warm-approach events. Less in my younger years, but my social circle is similarly married and LTRs or went with the ex, so not much opportunity to meet singles there. Proximity to cities is definitely key, I've been watching the market in the mid-sized ones east of the river.

Agree it's a crutch but not a hinderance. My real-life game has only improved since kicking off dating again in the online world. Crutches are only there to help you walk until your leg heals. Or for those times later on when your leg is tired and they're easier. And it is so easy...

[reaper23]

i've banged a million chicks from online.

i just deleted okcupid and tinder today.

my day game is yielding better results in terms of quality. rivaling online in terms of quantity too. my rotation is full so any new girl is bumping another one pretty much.

i wasted so much time with okcupid and tinder, browsing, messaging, responding, etc.

just not worth it anymore, plus the rush from running game anywhere is so much fun.

i'll admit, for many years i used online as a crutch, also used it while in relationships - that it is definitely good for. but now i'm done with it and cutting the cord.

[puckerman]

It seems like the girls on-line aren't serious. They just put profiles, wait for responses, and ignore them. It's a form of attention whoring that existed long before social media.

Plus, it's way too easy to screen for age on these sites.

[runsonmagic]

When I first started, the online # would have been pretty high. Now, not so much.

I deleted OKC a couple months back and haven't missed it.

I still pull a bit from Tinder, but that's a pretty minimal time investment.

[bacan]

I also deleted okcupid and tinder and no longer use online game.

I prefer to be able to get a cute girl's number in a coffee shop or even on the street (tough) rather than telling myself "Ah why bother, I'll just send a 100 messages to girls online"

Some of the craziest stupidest whores I've ever met have been through online dating. I'm not opposed to it -- I just don't want to waste my time with it.

Plus, it puts your profile out there and if a friend of a friend of a girl you're seeing you finds on there, you might have some explaining to do..

[MtnMan]

My online 'field' seems to vary quite a lot in terms of quality. At times I have several decent looking online potentials, other times all I see is creatures and fatties.

I live rural, and am seriously considering selling my house and moving into the nearby college city so I can stop relying on this online nonsense.

I can always get laid online, but the quality isn't what I am hoping to someday be able to pull. Currently banging a 6.5 chick from OKC, she is a total and complete freak, loves to bang, loves to be tied up and told what to do, lets me rawdogg with reckless abandon, but she is only a 6.5, and I think I should be able to do better.

We were talking about how we were at the bar on our second 'date', and she saw several girls eyefucking me, and how I was the hottest guy there at the time. Then she starts telling me how she always goes for the hottest guy at the bar (and she definitely feels entitled to him). This convo has left me really annoyed.

It is not likely that this girl will be the hottest girl at the bar, but she thinks she DESERVES the hottest guy. WTF. She could be hotter if she hit the gym, ate better, and quit cigs, but she doesn't make the effort....and why should she? The hottest guy at the bar (me) will still tie her up, and own her pussy just like she desires, so what is her incentive to improve.

In the meantime, I lift every day, eat right, have my wardrobe dialed in, keep my hair in check etc.

Online fucks up the balance of power, and I feel ashamed for feeding the fire.