[gringoed]

This guy is the man:

He lives with a porn star and a model, who also take care of his kids.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/01...30010.html



Watch this interview. He's completely his own man and doesnt give a fuck. An uber-alpha
http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/01/charl...lie-kenly/

[Luckystar]

Charlie Sheen is clearly a rambling junkie trying to prove he's not.

Especially clear, if you've ever spent anytime around drug addicts. His lifestyle probably was great until he went off the deep end.

[Roosh]

Luckystar why the hate? You've been doing a bit of that on the board lately.

He has fame, money, and women. Millions of people can't get enough of him no matter what he says. Uber-alpha indeed.

[thegmanifesto]

Granted, I haven't been following this whole Sheen thing at all, but I kind of get the gist.

Honestly, most of my best friends are "Sheen like" (hard partying, Smoke Endless Cigarettes, don't give a f*ck, swoop ridiculous amounts of girls, make and spend mad scratch, drugs, boozing etc) or had "Sheen like" periods of their life (and I am not talking about a three month period, I am talking years and years).

I am not sure really what the big deal is.

Its all normal to me.

[Tuthmosis]

My bottom line: Charlie Sheen is acting a little nuts right now because he's going through a serious meltdown, but he's a certified pro-alpha with a lifestyle--when he's had his shit together, which is most of the time--that most of us would kill for.

His cast-off tail is better than half the bitches in the now-famous "What Do You Guys Consider a 10" thread.

See: Denise Richards in her prime.

[gringoed]

Edit:

I realize the interview is 10mins long, so just skip to around 7:05 to see the peak alpha-ness.

[SuperDave]

This guy ROCKS!

BTW I'm back after a few months with a colombian GF. I started catching up on the posts again a couple days ago. I have some stories and ready for some new adventures!

[hydrogonian]

Based on his stats and lifestyle, he's definitely just about as alpha as it gets. At least insofar as he can be compared to any current celebrity.

Having watched his interview on TV the other night though, and having grown up around some drunks and drug addicts, his cognition and psychology seems like they has definitely taken a hit. He talks like a long term drunk/addict. Its funny how they all tend to resemble one another after a while. But that's what happens: The brain loses plasticity when abused too regularly. Fortunately, that condition doesn't tend to affect the life of a guy like him as much as it does people who don't have a similar position in society. I mean, he's going to continue to be very rich and continue to bang pornstars.

[Luckystar]

(03-02-2011 04:57 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Luckystar why the hate? You've been doing a bit of that on the board lately.

He has fame, money, and women. Millions of people can't get enough of him no matter what he says. Uber-alpha indeed.

I ve seen his interviews, and he's become a hollywood cliche.

True, he's attained a high level of success which is ultra alpha without a doubt. I definitely admire that fact he goes hard in life.

But, becoming a junkie and losing a contract of $1.2 mill per episode IS trending downward in life. Nobody is taking him seriously now.

Your either moving up in life or down. Right now it's down.

[Luckystar]

(03-02-2011 04:57 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Luckystar why the hate? You've been doing a bit of that on the board lately.

My bad. I have a quick and nasty FU mode.

I need to be reminded to be nice from time to time.

[Duke Castile]

I think the guy is a total dbag with a lot of funny quotes. He's a fucking actor for christ's sake. That's it. He's never done anything except say what he's told. I'm pretty sure any of us living on the fringe benefits of being famous could do better.

[Aliblahba]

(03-02-2011 07:51 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I think the guy is a total dbag with a lot of funny quotes. He's a fucking actor for christ's sake. That's it. He's never done anything except say what he's told. I'm pretty sure any of us living on the fringe benefits of being famous could do better.

I agree. It's hard for me to put actors in alpha status. If Chuck was an alpha he wouldn't be letting drugs and alcohol destroy his life. Because of him the show won't finish the season, leaving his coworkers w/out a paycheck. That's some beta blue falcon bullshit. Fuck, the guy used to fuck a transexual porn star.

[Lumiere]

You are overlooking the fact that he bangs porn stars because he pays them.

If you ever catch me paying a chick $10,000 just to have dinner with me then you have permission to shoot me. Alpha? That's about as omega as you can possibly get.

Like Fisto said I would be shocked if anyone on this board living on the fringe benefits of being rich and famous could not replicate his 'success with women'.

[stein]

Many "Naturals" tend to have low impulse control. They get girls, and become the life of any party, but do incredibly foolhardy shit especially when drunk/high. Charlie Sheen's might be one of these guys though I'm not sure if he pulled chicks before he became famous. Another example is Tommy Lee.

On this forum, we improve our lot with women, but we also pay deliberate attention to improving the quality of our daily lives, whatever our means. We talk about traveling the world on a budget, not going into dangerous parts of unknown towns, drinking less, using our money better, saving more etc. An irresponsible wild child would give two shits about these things. Such an all or nothing attitude is not for the meek hearted, hence it attracts women as well.

Everyone has their own definition of "Alpha" that they aspire to but it always includes being strong-willed.

Sheen says: "For years, there were actors that I thought were arrogant and so completely full of themselves, now I look back when I see that and I go 'wow, they were just uber-confident. They were just projecting an image that they believed to be true." This sounds delusional, but he can afford to have such a mindset.

A bitchin' rockstar life might make an alpha, but it comes at a significant price. The family wreckage most Hollywood-type alphas leave in their wake is just not everyone's cup of tea.

[Jack Frost]

(03-02-2011 08:31 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

If you ever catch me paying a chick $10,000 just to have dinner with me then you have permission to shoot me. Alpha? That's about as omega as you can possibly get.

I disagree with this, money is all relative man. If youre making 40 million a year which Ive got to imagine is the area Sheen is in 10 stacks is less than .1 percent of his income. Thats like most people spending a coupe of bucks. Theres plenty of men that are next level alpha paying prostitutes and if you dont believe that youre crazy.

[rudebwoy]

People that say if they had his money they would do this, crack me up. You honestly don't know what you would do, but one thing is for sure you would not be on this site/forum. I would be the first to admit there would be a couple of porn stars that would be on my speed dial, I mean doesn't the dude make like $1.25 million a show. Plus he has money from before the show and probably grew up rich.
The sad thing is that he is on the dark side and the drug habit seems to be getting the better of him.

[Lumiere]

The percent of his income does not matter

Seriously. You think having to stoop so low that you actually have to pay people to have dinner with you is anything other than omega?

I met a chick here in the Phils in a club this week who said she would bang me if I bought her a pizza.

I said no.

A pizza here costs about $3.

Sometimes money is not the point.

[Jack Frost]

"Stooping so low" is just a matter of ones personal values. I think a civilian chick asking for it and him dealing with known pros and not giving a fuck are two different things. Money is always the point not in women but in life.

[hydrogonian]

From the interview I just saw, I don't think that he pays his live-in porn star , as well as the other girl, directly for sex and companionship. But I'm sure they are fully supported while living under his roof. Shades of grey, like all men who date and pay for things. That's not to say that he doesn't pay other porn stars and prostitutes. He has a long history of that, as I remember that he was in the black book of that high end brothel that was busted in the 90's. But that's par for the course. I think that there are a lot of A and B list celebrities that pay for sex. Its probably a hell of a lot less complicated for them, even though they can pull civilians easily.

I'm calling it right now, that this "cancellation" of his show will be short lived. Its generating so much press that when they come back next season, many many more people will be tuning in to see crazy Charlie back on the air. It all means a lot more money for everyone. Hollywood isn't that stupid as to not cash in on this because some of them have their panties in a bunch.

[mikeymike]

(03-02-2011 09:48 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

The percent of his income does not matter

Seriously. You think having to stoop so low that you actually have to pay people to have dinner with you is anything other than omega?

I met a chick here in the Phils in a club this week who said she would bang me if I bought her a pizza.

I said no.

A pizza here costs about $3.

Sometimes money is not the point.

It's easy to just see the 10 grand he's handing out, but you have to put it into the context of his life. Could he bang hot chicks for free absolutely but what do THEY want out of the deal? Some girls just wanna star fuck and some see dollar bills, I get pics of this I can sell my sheen fuckfest to tmz whatever, I get a kid out of this im set for life, and so on....when you got the kind of cash some of these guys are rolling with it's sometimes about self preservation, get a girl who knows why she's there does her job well and gets the hell gone when he's done. 10 g's is nothing to him, but bad publicity, a bastard kid, that can cut into his money making. It's not as omega as you're making it out to be.

[Lumiere]

(03-03-2011 12:44 AM)mikeymike Wrote:  

10 g's is nothing to him, but bad publicity, a bastard kid, that can cut into his money making. It's not as omega as you're making it out to be.

Yeah it is. The only people circling around him are all about the money.

If you want to be alpha then you understand that is your job and your duty as a man to be able to draw women to you who for who you are as a person. Your masculinity. Your strength as a person. Your positivity and warmth.

Charlie lacks all 3 of those.

He is not the only celeb beta out there who is like this. Kevin Kostner, an obvious beta, is famous for doing the same thing - Hugh Grant too. His month long Brazilian hooker binges holed up in copacobana hotel rooms are well known.

Dont get me wrong. I dont have a problem with consenting adults consenting to have sex for any reason.

I am just saying Sheen is just an omega with celebrity, money and poor self control. There is nothing to be learned from that and certainly nothing to be admired.

[kerouac]

(03-03-2011 01:51 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

If you want to be alpha then you understand that is your job and your duty as a man to be able to draw women to you who for who you are as a person. Your masculinity. Your strength as a person. Your positivity and warmth.

That's a lot of new age-y talk. Calling him omega is ridiculous. He might not be an Arnold Schwarzenegger alpha, but he is definitely in a position that many guys would love to be in. He married Denise Richards and had her staying in the room next to his when he was banging prostitutes for god sakes. He's a hollywood rock star and in many people's books that equates to being bad ass.

If you look at it from the viewpoint of guys in hollywood, it's much easier in the long run to just pay for a prostitute because the entire town is littered with starfuckers who want to take advantage of their touch of fame by ruining the lives of the stars one way or another.

When you have the money, and all you care about is drugs and sex, the easiest way to get that is to take advantage of your blessings (ie. tons of cash) and get what you want.

Now isn't that what most would consider the modern day definition of an alpha male: the guy who goes after what he wants and doesn't give a fuck? I think so.

[Tuthmosis]

Accidental double post deleted. see below.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-02-2011 09:48 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I said no.

Was she torn up? I'll bet you a three-dollar pizza she wasn't hot (or you would have hit it).

Quote:

A pizza here costs about $3.

Domestic pizza prices have really dropping lately, shit. Time to buy.

[Lumiere]

(03-03-2011 02:30 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

That's a lot of new age-y talk.

Since when has masculinity and strength been new age-y?

(03-03-2011 02:30 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

Now isn't that what most would consider the modern day definition of an alpha male: the guy who goes after what he wants and doesn't give a fuck? I think so.

Serial killers and stalkers go after what they want and don't give a fuck too.

I think you need to do some thinking and come up with a better definition of alpha.