[TravelerKai]

(07-08-2014 05:20 PM)Prophylaxis Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 02:05 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Disagree, you can marry for a change in citizenship (potential job opportunities). You don't have to follow anyone, I don't know why you guys let women control you. You don't have to do sh1t you don't want to, my woman while being a very nice lady lives under the threat that I will basically walk anytime she thinks of becoming THAT girl. I've already done my bucket list, so walking out and flying over to a beach side property is just a hop skip and a jump away. I have alot of friends who act like the wife is in control simply because they have a ring on their finger.... the truth is they willingly surrender control to their wives. The only time my wife is in control is when I'm sick or injured (like right now) and need her assistance.

Right now I am GREATFUL to have someone around who cares about me enough to take me to hospitals and stay by my side. Is there anyone on this forum that will come out, spend their own money to fly to China, quit their job and take care of me because they want to see me get better? I don't think so. There is nothing more comforting than to have loved ones at your bed side while you are suffering, trust me on this one. If I was by myself, I would be a bag of nerves, probably in full panic mode right now from my concussion. I'm in a completely foregin CUNTry where the only person who REALLY cares about my well being is my wife... a girlfriend can't really do that for you, she's not family... when the going gets rough the only people that are going to stay by your side are the people that have a voluntary obligation to you and a stake in your future on this planet. My wife is my life line and my best friend, I know I can trust her with my life and when I can't make decisions for myself. You need to seek out THIS KIND OF WOMAN... not a 'casual date or friend with benefits type'. If you want to meet these types of people, you have to be willing to give up the 'dating game' and pledge your committment to a marriage, loyalty is reciprocal. I'd wager very few of you if any have run the gamut of life or death in the 3rd world yet... I've done it now 4 or 5 times and each time, I can safely say, I'd be DEAD without my wife.

I would say my R.O.I has been over 100% and still going.

Hey BadWolf,

I'm happy for you man, and sounds like you have a really good thing going on. However the vast majority of men won't pick up and move to a third world country, learn the local language/culture, assimilate and find a rural girl to settle down with.

Many of us still hold onto a romanticised view of marriage, but this is only going to work against those still living in Western countries.

Whenever I'm serious with a girl, and settling down enters my mind, I only have to remind myself of the statistics.

You mentioned that men who surrender control of their marriage to their wives, had it coming. However, with the state on HER side, any control you think you might have is an illusion.

Unless men are willing to go to the lengths you have been to, I still think marriage is obsolete.

I have a Chinese wife like Badwolf does. She would take a bullet for me if I was too slow to step in front of her and throw her aside first, like Badwolf's would. Badwolf has lived in China for years, me never. I just visit alot. Badwolf cannot speak Mandarin (or very well rather), but I can speak it decently. The only other difference is that I brought my wife back with me to America. Oh yeah and he is white and I am black.

Like Badwolf says you wont find the best wife material in those big tier cities in China (that said you can still find good wives in there). I knew that as well and found an upper middle class traditional beauty from the mountains.

Life here with her makes all the difference in the world. I got 99 problems all day long. I enjoy the stares, the hate, the eye rolling, the constant questions of "Is she with you? or is this separate?" at the stores. She is pregnant and still skinny. That makes them hate and fidget even more. Black women's heads explode. I expected that. Hot white girls have even scoffed at me a few times. That was unexpected because I never got attention from that group before. Single mothers display all sorts of jealously. One that lives near me (a white lady with a big ass with mixed kids) used to say "Haayyy!" Anytime she saw me working around my house. After my wife came, she stopped. Asian women get either instant curious or jealous, especially ones in my circles.

She makes me feel like a king in my castle. She goes everywhere with me. No more of this "I'm going to the mall and hang out with my friends" nonsense all Saturday, come back at 9pm and never ask if I ate anything or needing anything. My wife cooks me 3 meals everyday if I work from my home office. Always checks on me if I need something. I do IT for work, and because she is so smart, I can explain something I need job related and she can help me remotely and perform actions for me. If I even look frustrated over something, she hooks me up full service and everything. I don't know how to act. She has spoiled me ROTTEN.

While I type out my upcoming datasheet for RVF yesterday, she came over and clipped my nails to help me type better without me asking. She tells me that I am her life. Everything is about ME. I cannot even talk about my life to my family and friends for fear it may break up their marriages or make them feel bad.

Everything she does. Her mom does for her dad. He takes my mother in law with him when he travels for work and she cooks for him and his workers and takes care of all the day to day things he needs. She literally lets him do anything he wants. My father in law is extremely alpha and does things I would never do, but does my mother in law complain? Nope. Never. They make sure their daughter does the same for me too.

Hanging out with him, his uncles, his father, and all the other Chinese men in his area. The message hit me quickly. We work hard, drink hard, and have the best wives in the world. Life is good. They even told me this a few times. Some might think this kind of life is boring and too simple, but to each his own. I have no problem enjoying something, most of Black America has not had the pleasure to enjoy for many decades and possibly ever. A healthy and stable family life that would be pleasing in the sight of God himself.

One of my favorite NAS songs captures this feeling exactly.

I Remember the times I hung with the dimes
I Remember the times I fucked a few
I Remember the times I hung with the dimes
And all the wild things I used to do
I Remember the times I hung with the dimes
I Remember the times I fucked a few
Remembering the times it was on my mind
But none of them could touch you

[MaxRitter]

my girlfriend is Russian I am 36 she`s 21. I brought her over from the city of Volgograd that is full of amazing women (literally no men except for a few drunks). she works as a fitness instructor and I specifically selected a wife that isnt just goodlooking and slim but actually really into sports. Alina is a fitness fanatic so there is a high chance she`ll stay slim even after pregnancy cause she enjoys taking care of her body. she s submissive, cooks and cleans and does all of the housework without me asking for it.

A few qulaities I believe men should look for in a potential wife:

doesnt have a huge dating history, preferably a virgin
is goodlooking and constantly works on improving her looks
likes to cook, to sew, to clean and do all of the domestic work on her own initiative
asks me for help only if heavy lifting or some mens work such as repairing stuff is needed. accepts it with grattitude and appreciates it
is at least 10-20 years younger than me
loves me, takes good care of me, accepts me as I am. forgives my flaws, such as occasional cheating as long as I treat her with respect
she doesnt have to be rich or a well payed professional but she must be a able to hold a job and help me support the family, yet she must devote most of her time to me and the kids, career should come last
rejects all of the feminist bullshit and follows my lead

[Cobra]

(07-11-2014 01:25 PM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

A few qulaities I believe men should look for in a potential wife:

doesnt have a huge dating history, preferably a virgin
is goodlooking and constantly works on improving her looks
likes to cook, to sew, to clean and do all of the domestic work on her own initiative
asks me for help only if heavy lifting or some mens work such as repairing stuff is needed. accepts it with grattitude and appreciates it
is at least 10-20 years younger than me
loves me, takes good care of me, accepts me as I am. forgives my flaws, such as occasional cheating as long as I treat her with respect
she doesnt have to be rich or a well payed professional but she must be a able to hold a job and help me support the family, yet she must devote most of her time to me and the kids, career should come last
rejects all of the feminist bullshit and follows my lead

I agree with everything else but the job thing.. If she works and you also expect her to do all the other stuff, it could actually be unrealistic.

[BadWolf]

Quote:

She goes everywhere with me.

Yep agreed, I often say that I feel like Luke Skywalker with R2D2.

"This R2 unit and I have been through alot together" - Luke Skywalker.

[iknowexactly]

(07-11-2014 09:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

We ....have the best wives in the world. Life is good. They even told me this a few times. Some might think this kind of life is boring and too simple, but to each his own. I have no problem enjoying something,......

Beautiful. Just an expression of my personal preferences, and I know everyone needs different things but--

+1 rep point for a lovely romantic picture like what I am trying to achieve. All that time you're basking in the loving actions of your wife,players are trying to draw some girl in who'll never know them, and whom they'll never know.

Where's the satisfaction of approval from someone who doesn't even know you?

[MaxRitter]

(07-11-2014 03:20 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

I agree with everything else but the job thing.. If she works and you also expect her to do all the other stuff, it could actually be unrealistic.

well Im not saying she has to have a high paid job, just be able to take care of herself financially. but she must not be career focused. Ill be the main provider and she ll most likely stay at home with the kids but if Im ever out of work or smth she should be able to pitch in and work hard without complaining as well do all the house work. most Russian women do it without bitching and mine is no exception.

[Tytalus]

There's some good Red Pill links I've come across:

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/...-position/

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/...e-part-ii/

http://judgybitch.com/2012/11/16/how-to-...ingle-men/

http://marriedmansexlife.com/2013/05/wif...-and-nice/

http://marriedmansexlife.com/2010/03/10-...se-a-wife/

As some have mentioned already, mental health is HUGE. My wife wasn't crazy when I married her. But I was told it ran in the family and naively thought that since she was fine, that I didn't have to worry.

WRONG.

Post Partum Depression is real, and it triggered a full blown mood disorder. She's medicated and does better on it the drugs, but it permanently damaged our marriage.

You want a thin wife? Make sure she exercises and eats well before getting married, otherwise she won't stay thin after you get married. Yeah, I learned the hard way about that too guys. I thought because I worked out and looked good she'd stay in shape. Nope. She took to eating whole extra meals behind my back for a few years. And there was just this "mysterious" weight gain BETWEEN pregnancies, not DURING.

Now remember, this also didn't happen in a vacuum either. I didn't have my shit together for the first 5 years of the marriage and didn't know how to alpha up as it were. There were plenty of failings on my part which allowed her hamster to run wild.

If you want to know married man game, go to athol kay's website marriedmansexlife.com. He has two good books out, an excellent blog and forum as well.

The other thing, is that don't fall into the trap of putting a woman on a pedestal. We talk about it here, but when you meet someone who really strikes your fancy, your brain can go haywire and give you a bunch of false expectations.

As some others have said, only get married if you really want kids and are thinking of long term companionship in your old age.

[Bushido]

(07-12-2014 07:20 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

(07-11-2014 03:20 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

I agree with everything else but the job thing.. If she works and you also expect her to do all the other stuff, it could actually be unrealistic.

well Im not saying she has to have a high paid job, just be able to take care of herself financially. but she must not be career focused. Ill be the main provider and she ll most likely stay at home with the kids but if Im ever out of work or smth she should be able to pitch in and work hard without complaining as well do all the house work. most Russian women do it without bitching and mine is no exception.

Exactly. Also, she should at least do some kind of job before you are married. Preferably not something too high-flying but a full-time job. This teaches her the value of work. She will respect you more for it.

After kids are bigger (if I have them), I'd like to be in the financial situation to let her choose what she wants to do - if a part-time job brings a lot more fun to her day then cool. Being a housewife can be monotonous so you want to give them a bit of freedom. Just avoid the careerist types and it will be fine.

[TravelerKai]

(07-11-2014 09:57 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(07-11-2014 09:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

We ....have the best wives in the world. Life is good. They even told me this a few times. Some might think this kind of life is boring and too simple, but to each his own. I have no problem enjoying something,......

Beautiful. Just an expression of my personal preferences, and I know everyone needs different things but--

+1 rep point for a lovely romantic picture like what I am trying to achieve. All that time you're basking in the loving actions of your wife,players are trying to draw some girl in who'll never know them, and whom they'll never know.

Where's the satisfaction of approval from someone who doesn't even know you?

Thanks for the kinds words, I appreciate that. I just hope this will help others on the fence or jaded by American women and American marriage. I have an American exwife, so I know how atrocious it can be.

[TravelerKai]

(07-12-2014 09:36 AM)Tytalus Wrote:  

There's some good Red Pill links I've come across:

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/...-position/

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/...e-part-ii/

http://judgybitch.com/2012/11/16/how-to-...ingle-men/

http://marriedmansexlife.com/2013/05/wif...-and-nice/

http://marriedmansexlife.com/2010/03/10-...se-a-wife/

As some have mentioned already, mental health is HUGE. My wife wasn't crazy when I married her. But I was told it ran in the family and naively thought that since she was fine, that I didn't have to worry.

WRONG.

Post Partum Depression is real, and it triggered a full blown mood disorder. She's medicated and does better on it the drugs, but it permanently damaged our marriage.

You want a thin wife? Make sure she exercises and eats well before getting married, otherwise she won't stay thin after you get married. Yeah, I learned the hard way about that too guys. I thought because I worked out and looked good she'd stay in shape. Nope. She took to eating whole extra meals behind my back for a few years. And there was just this "mysterious" weight gain BETWEEN pregnancies, not DURING.

Now remember, this also didn't happen in a vacuum either. I didn't have my shit together for the first 5 years of the marriage and didn't know how to alpha up as it were. There were plenty of failings on my part which allowed her hamster to run wild.

If you want to know married man game, go to athol kay's website marriedmansexlife.com. He has two good books out, an excellent blog and forum as well.

The other thing, is that don't fall into the trap of putting a woman on a pedestal. We talk about it here, but when you meet someone who really strikes your fancy, your brain can go haywire and give you a bunch of false expectations.

As some others have said, only get married if you really want kids and are thinking of long term companionship in your old age.

Dalrock is essential. It's like reading a mix of Scorpion, DOBA, Excelsior, and Forney mixed with a minister. I am constantly learning from him so that I can work harder to fix things in my own families through Christian principles. The MMSL site I have not read enough of to know. Their forum scares me due to the massisve amounts of betaness and kowtow posts I saw some months back. Maybe its just an area for men in trouble and they are in that Matrix pod jerking and struggling trying to pull free. I dunno.

You are absolutely right about mental health. My exwife's mother had Borderline Personality Disorder and was hell on wheels. After I divorced her, she got diagnosed with Major Depressive and something else she would not tell me.

[TravelerKai]

(07-12-2014 09:44 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 07:20 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

(07-11-2014 03:20 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

I agree with everything else but the job thing.. If she works and you also expect her to do all the other stuff, it could actually be unrealistic.

well Im not saying she has to have a high paid job, just be able to take care of herself financially. but she must not be career focused. Ill be the main provider and she ll most likely stay at home with the kids but if Im ever out of work or smth she should be able to pitch in and work hard without complaining as well do all the house work. most Russian women do it without bitching and mine is no exception.

Exactly. Also, she should at least do some kind of job before you are married. Preferably not something too high-flying but a full-time job. This teaches her the value of work. She will respect you more for it.

After kids are bigger (if I have them), I'd like to be in the financial situation to let her choose what she wants to do - if a part-time job brings a lot more fun to her day then cool. Being a housewife can be monotonous so you want to give them a bit of freedom. Just avoid the careerist types and it will be fine.

I kinda agree with you, but honestly I do not think a woman should work outside the house, unless it is for the family's business itself. I will not allow my wife to work a job or go to a 4 year school. She already has a 2 year diploma. It makes my feminist relatives angry and non-feminist ones confused, but I refuse. I lived in a dual income household with the exwife and considering what we made, we both have very little to show for it. I had a ton of debt, but I still have my house. I was lucky to get away with an empty house. 2 incomes is not worth it because certain women think they do not need you after a while and starting trying to take charge. They no longer depend on you.

The difficult part is finding work where you both can live off of, without her working. Very few countries are making that easy to do these days.

Also, if a woman is capable of being bored as a housewife, ditch her. Take her out of the wife race runnings because her state of mind is damaged. I have dumped more hot Chinese women that were career women than I care to recall for that reason alone. My wife is never bored. She has too many things she can play with, read, experiment, cook, gardening, etc. She laughs at people that tell her she must be bored.

[MaxRitter]

[quote] (07-12-2014 11:36 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

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I kinda agree with you, but honestly I do not think a woman should work outside the house, unless it is for the family's business itself. I will not allow my wife to work a job or go to a 4 year school. She already has a 2 year diploma. It makes my feminist relatives angry and non-feminist ones confused, but I refuse. I lived in a dual income household with the exwife and considering what we made, we both have very little to show for it. I had a ton of debt, but I still have my house. I was lucky to get away with an empty house. 2 incomes is not worth it because certain women think they do not need you after a while and starting trying to take charge. They no longer depend on you.

The difficult part is finding work where you both can live off of, without her working. Very few countries are making that easy to do these days.

Also, if a woman is capable of being bored as a housewife, ditch her. Take her out of the wife race runnings because her state of mind is damaged. I have dumped more hot Chinese women that were career women than I care to recall for that reason alone. My wife is never bored. She has too many things she can play with, read, experiment, cook, gardening, etc. She laughs at people that tell her she must be bored.[/quote]


Dude Im just being realistic.. in the US if you lose your job and everything, I guess there must be some social security net to help your family survive. But in most countries if one person loses his job the family has to s very little to go for them. and a woman without a proper degree or work experience may not even be able to find a job. Ive seen families who lost children due to not being able to pay for expensive surgeries. Its a good thing you are financially secure but most men are not. Im pretty well off and i live in social secure country but if I had lived in Asia or Eastern europe I wouldnt be able to rely on just my income.

the thing with women from post soviet countries, when the 90s hit them hard, they had to work to survive. many men became depressed drunks and the daughters watched their fathers abuse the family while the mom worked two jobs to feed them. good luck explaining to such woman that she doesnt need to work. I know my girlfriend needs to be able to rely on herself and I respect her more for that. I m sure you have a great wife but different women have different situations. I knew from the start I wasnt going to search for a girl that fits in some perfect picture. those girls who always say yes to everything even when you treat them like a doormat, they are actresses. they will owe your ass after the divorce. I knew in the relationship I would also have to adjust to her but its her job to make those adjustments minimal, to make my life as comfortable as possible. so yes it was her request that she works untill we have a kid. she needs that pillow of security, well fine. Im not going to keep her locked in the house and dream of me dying a premature death like in those movies. Its better she loves me for who i am while I accept who she is. working is fine but not too many hours and no career bullshit with business travels and such like. I esplained it to her and she agreed. to each his own. I just hope you guys are not gonna search for some perfect women cause they dont exist. its better the woman says from the start what she wants in a relationship and the two of you see if you can fit together.

[MaxRitter]

(07-12-2014 09:44 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

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Exactly. Also, she should at least do some kind of job before you are married. Preferably not something too high-flying but a full-time job. This teaches her the value of work. She will respect you more for it.

After kids are bigger (if I have them), I'd like to be in the financial situation to let her choose what she wants to do - if a part-time job brings a lot more fun to her day then cool. Being a housewife can be monotonous so you want to give them a bit of freedom. Just avoid the careerist types and it will be fine.

+ 100% agree

[Tytalus]

You know, you really are right about the mmsl forums. Its a great place for guys with poor game to learn how to be alpha.

The mmsl blog and books are gold though. Athol absolutely has his head on straight and gives great advice when it comes to LTR game.