Unofficial Joe Rogan representative reporting in again. I found an excellent piece of an interview that represents the nature of fake liar "independents".
Take a couple minutes to watch this short example of a typical liberal.
These are people who claim to be any combination of libertarian / apolitical / independent / undecideds. In this case, I think Tom Papa would at least admit he leans liberal, but he would fight tooth and nail with a lot of qualifiers.
Queue up 2:46:55 where Rogan rants about the Russians hacking and exposing the DNC corruption. Regardless of all the facts, watch Tom Papa's initial response at 2:48:00 and listen to the next few minutes of discussion.
He bleeds apology to the DNC. Now pretend it was the RNC was exposed and how differently he would have reacted.
Tom Papa is a liberal. I don't hate him or blame him. I suspect he's mostly a product of his environment like most lib-tards. He's that guy, Mr Nice Guy doesn't want to step on toes, relationship guys, guys who don't want to face hatred blowback from the media, who will claim independence or bi-partisan or undecided who is simply a bleeding heart democrat liberal who will take that side regardless of mathematics or corruption or public policy results or historical facts.
As Rush says, a liberal is a liberal first.
Edit: In regards to the following discussion, I'm guessing Tom Papa didn't have much to say when
Obama whispered to Medvedev that he would have more flexibility on missle defense after his re-election in 2012.