[Rush87]

(07-14-2014 04:35 AM)spalex Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 03:24 AM)Akula Wrote:  

Man Sydney just sounds awful. Lot of my Aussie buddies in Russia are pretty fed up with the place in general.

I'd assume the massive gay presence in Sydney helps the average player out a bit? Or is the thirstiness just so great it doesn't matter in the end?

The thirstiness is very real.

Though Australian women is what most likely contributes to your mates being sick of the place.
When I was 19-21 I started going to the backpacker bars and banging German women.
After that... I just couldn't go back to aussie girls anymore.
Just the sound of their accent makes me cringe... and I am Australian!

Lol, I didn't realise other Aussie guys knew about the 'easy' German chicks.

[Biologist]

(07-13-2014 10:37 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

Yup, that's why they brought in the lockout laws Let's just hope it doesn't spread beyond Inner Sydney

Very true. If the lockout laws are going to be implemented over the long term (although I have a feeling that they won't be), we will start seeing more and more significant nightlife spots popping up in areas of Sydney other than the CBD.

[spalex]

(07-14-2014 06:03 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

(07-13-2014 10:37 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

Yup, that's why they brought in the lockout laws Let's just hope it doesn't spread beyond Inner Sydney

Very true. If the lockout laws are going to be implemented over the long term (although I have a feeling that they won't be), we will start seeing more and more significant nightlife spots popping up in areas of Sydney other than the CBD.

Yeah apparently double bay is just getting raped with patrons.
Like every venue is at capacity most nights.

Ahh the golden sheaf used to be great for an easy bang from a british backpacker.
... I bet the place sucks now.

[Deluge]

(07-14-2014 09:15 AM)spalex Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 06:03 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

(07-13-2014 10:37 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

Yup, that's why they brought in the lockout laws Let's just hope it doesn't spread beyond Inner Sydney

Very true. If the lockout laws are going to be implemented over the long term (although I have a feeling that they won't be), we will start seeing more and more significant nightlife spots popping up in areas of Sydney other than the CBD.

Yeah apparently double bay is just getting raped with patrons.
Like every venue is at capacity most nights.

This is the why lockout is destined to fail in its aims.

It could do some serious damage if left in place for long enough though. One thing I like about Australia is how heavily concentrated nightlife is in the CBD's. If the lockout stays in place for more than a year or two then venues will become much more spread out around the inner suburbs.

[Hed Onist]

(07-14-2014 04:35 AM)spalex Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 03:24 AM)Akula Wrote:  

Man Sydney just sounds awful. Lot of my Aussie buddies in Russia are pretty fed up with the place in general.

I'd assume the massive gay presence in Sydney helps the average player out a bit? Or is the thirstiness just so great it doesn't matter in the end?

The thirstiness is very real.

Though Australian women is what most likely contributes to your mates being sick of the place.
When I was 19-21 I started going to the backpacker bars and banging German women.
After that... I just couldn't go back to aussie girls anymore.
Just the sound of their accent makes me cringe... and I am Australian!

Aussie chicks make American women look positively feminine. I'm convinced there isn't a more mannish breed of women out there. Half of them could be 1st rate line backers.

[JWLZG]

Serious question, but I hope someone with experience in both (or another compared 1st-tier city) will be able to corroborate:

I've noticed a bit of a trend of Sydney having features of the NYC of Australia. By this I mean single, attractive (or above-average looks), professional-type girls moving there from elsewhere in Australia and around the world. These tend to be university-educated 25 y/o + women, what would be called the ex-sorority type in the US, working mainly in the creative or advertising fields or NGO's.
Some of these have even moved from Melbourne and Perth, of all places, and a handful of single European girls I've met travelling in Asia have chosen Sydney to expat to. These are above-average looking specimens, by any standard, not the bottom-of-the-barrel stuff that is said to flock to here.

How much of a truism is that? Does Sydney really draw the unattached, above-average looking girls wanting to live the SATC type dream in the sense that NYC is so commonly said to do? In this thread, there's mention of the forward nature of NYC girls, despite the overall frigidness of the population (the whole big city feel). From my very limited experience with Sydney as an adult, the city wasn't as abrupt in manner as NYC or London, but found the women to be a bit more receptive, or bubbly — this has been corroborated by other members.

In a holistic sense, Melbourne is said to have more in common with NYC than Sydney, but that's more to do with the foodie, hipster and music scenes. I know a lot of Sydney musos have relocated to Melbourne for that reason (damn lockout laws).

I've got a chance to relocate to Sydney for work, and I want to find out how much of a truism is this theory. I do want to experience the latter part of my youth living the big city experience elsewhere, and the crux of my question is — as I'm not outright looking to settle down, and I want to parlay my game into an abundance of hot women living the aforementioned "footloose and fancy free" lifestyle — how does this status quo (if indeed the truth) stack up against NYC, or for that matter other big cities such as London, Copenhagen, Hong Kong, St. Petersburg, Toronto, or Boston? I understand that lifestyle, bankroll, field of work (PM me), and race (?) will factor into the equation.

[Australia Sucks]

JWLZG I live in Sydney. The short answer is nobody should ever come to Sydney for the women. Sydney girls are very snarky for the most part. Even the foreign girls here quickly become bitchy. Also don't think you will be the only local guy targeting backpackers or Asian students. Plenty of other guys already have the same idea so its still competitive.

Expect any girl that is a 5 or above to usually have immense attitude and be flaky as fuck. However if you are really handsome or really jacked or a millionaire you can pull heaps of girls in Sydney as there are plenty of sluts. For most guys however if you are moving to Sydney expect to experience a drought of pussy.

As for other factors of lifestyle in Sydney you need a huge bankroll to enjoy it properly. Rents near the CBD or nice beaches are insane, as are the prices of everything in general (restaurants, bars, taxis/Uber, etc). If you have a job paying 6 figures the lifestyle (I mean the factors other than the women) in Sydney can be decent, but otherwise its not worth it.

As for comparing it to places like New York or London I cannot comment on that as I have not been to those places.

[Hazaer]

I won't think Sydney can be compared to NYC or any European city. In the end, you are comparing Aussies to other nationalities and the posters before have highlighted the difference. If u want to do well, especially in Sydney, you got to have a particular look and your profession would matter more so than in other parts of Australia. Also. your clique would matter as well like in most places in Australia but unlike other major cities like NYC. Do not be taken by the demeanor of the girls, in the end, the approach is not the goal. Also a good portion of people in Sydney are from upper income families and that places a glass ceiling in terms of social circle conditioning as well. NYC has more of a transient population leading to a more carefree dating lifestyle but Sydney has quite a big resident population where people know people to some extent. But like NYC, you got to be a baller to be able to live that lifestyle but with all that lockout laws why bother? Its a good idea take a short trip there to get some on the ground experience during the tourist season to see how it compares.

[Green-On-GO]

If I didn't have kids I'd move back to Sydney ,it shits all over Melbourne for women.The perv factor alone makes me high.I love seeing hot fit chicks and Sydney does it for me.I can't disagree with Australia Sucks more I don't why you don't just move the fuck out.No hot chicks and you live near the beach?? I find that hard to believe.Come down to Melbourne dude so you know how good you got it..I have met hot Melbourne chicks in Sydney by the way.

I go to Sydney a lot my mates live there I lived there for 7 years.True it's expensive as all fuck.Live near the city or beaches outside that as Australia Sucks says it sucks.(All the chicks I use to know there asked me why I left and tell me I was a fool for doing it.I was so blue pill at the time.)

But whats stopping you from living in a Bondi share house getting a social circle going.You have to build social circle there or you are fucked and if you are not outgoing ,bringing value as the RSD approach troopers say then you are fucked.No one gives a fuck what job you do and no one said getting an education etc will get you pussy.If you keep thinking I need money you are fucked.Your competition is the beach, their phone and coke.Those jacked up cunts are mostly gay.Then you got Sydney blokes dressing the same, all following the latest fashion trend..and they do, same haircut, same beard, same chinos, same sneakers .Same same same.Style trumps fashion.
I get "all Sydney guys are wankers they are too busy trying to look pretty"

How the fuck do I pull in Sydney? I have mates , through out eye contact etc but the girls are all so hot it feeds me.It's IOI city if you can read IOs.
I talk to these chicks and they scoff at how sucked in Sydney blokes are.Always qualify, always going on about their job ,money ,suburb.I use to be the same.I wanted a fuck but was auditioning as the boyfriend with all that shit..fuck me white beach chicks and NSW country birds go out west to get Leb cock.I'm starting to think they could be the last authentic men in Sydney.I actually use to get pissed off at the Lebs but now I'm getting approached cause they think I'm one..they still can't tell wogs apart like Melbourne can.And it's all a domination game.I get it from Sydney girls in Melbourne and QLD. Talking to a Melbourne Leb at a club who does business up in Sydney we both laughed about it.

On Melbourne I'm seeing a lot of 2nd gen Asian lads with white chicks at the moment.

As for lock out law fair enough if you want to pop pills but there is the Sunday session near a beach which I enjoy more.

I think most guys are taking themselves out the race.Aussie chicks like balls and dudes treating them like shit.The bitch shield comes up if you are not arrogant cheeky or cunt enough.You have to ask how these chicks always banging some cheeky Brit or Irish dude...Oh my God could these guys actually be fun?

Note it took me a couple of years to figure out Sydney the first thing you want to do is build a foundation around a popular social circle, a easy way is a share house in Bondi , Surry Hills it's full of chicks.Also get a manly hobbies anything from Sky diving to diving etc.

Sydney is a young woman's game and it's highly competitive for all chicks.Chicks love to compete.Chicks from overseas who can't compete come to Melbourne city of 6s they don't go to where they have to walk around in summer clothes.Fat little German girls come to Melbourne and masculine French girls.Melbourne dudes are so blinded by their Footy and one eyed Melbourness .I'm kept in Melbourne due to my kids I get out every chance I get to Sydney or QLD. Being from Melbourne is an advantage in Sydney and vice versa that's just the game .Sydney for being single ,Melbourne for having a family.

[Australia Sucks]

Green On Go, like I said I live near a well known beach in Sydney and there are some hot girls but they are definitely not easy to pull.

There are so many surfie/gym guys who hang out near the beach who have no life other than looking good and or surfing. You have to compete with these guys as well as the cashed up high income earners who are abundant in these areas. Competition is brutal and you will have to work like a dog just to score the occasional 6.

What good is the presence of girls that are a 7 or 7.5 if they are unobtainable?

I disagree with what you say, eastern suburbs girls and north shore girls do not mix in the same circles as Lebanese/wog guys living out west and they typically do not even go out west for any reason. If you want the CBD, North shore or Eastern suburbs girls in Sydney you have to be prepared to front up against brutal competition. To paraphrase Roosh you will have to bring the Britannica of game just to fuck a 6 in Sydney.

Yes Sydney girls like being treated like shit and strong asshole game will help, but by itself that is not enough, you have to also be either good looking or cashed up.

Game inflation in Sydney is insane. My game has improved over time but I cannot keep up. 5 or 6 years ago if I worked like a dog I could get the occasional date with a 7. Two or three years ago if I worked like a dog I could get an occasional date with a 6. Now I have to work like a dog just to get an occasional date with a 5. I am wealthier and have better game then 5 years ago. Also I look pretty similar to then. The thing that has changed is Sydney just keeps getting harder every year due to game inflation. Its brutal. Quite frankly I rarely even game anymore in Sydney because the juice just is not worth the squeeze.

I have better things to do then socialize with the types of low class trash that are commonly found in share houses. Yeah not all the people that hang out in share houses are douchey losers but most of them are and its not worth living that kind of lifestyle just to fuck a few extra girls.

[Razors Edge]

(07-29-2017 10:36 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

If I didn't have kids I'd move back to Sydney ,it shits all over Melbourne for women.The perv factor alone makes me high.I love seeing hot fit chicks and Sydney does it for me.I can't disagree with Australia Sucks more I don't why you don't just move the fuck out.No hot chicks and you live near the beach?? I find that hard to believe.Come down to Melbourne dude so you know how good you got it..I have met hot Melbourne chicks in Sydney by the way.

I go to Sydney a lot my mates live there I lived there for 7 years.True it's expensive as all fuck.Live near the city or beaches outside that as Australia Sucks says it sucks.(All the chicks I use to know there asked me why I left and tell me I was a fool for doing it.I was so blue pill at the time.)

But whats stopping you from living in a Bondi share house getting a social circle going.You have to build social circle there or you are fucked and if you are not outgoing ,bringing value as the RSD approach troopers say then you are fucked.No one gives a fuck what job you do and no one said getting an education etc will get you pussy.If you keep thinking I need money you are fucked.Your competition is the beach, their phone and coke.Those jacked up cunts are mostly gay.Then you got Sydney blokes dressing the same, all following the latest fashion trend..and they do, same haircut, same beard, same chinos, same sneakers .Same same same.Style trumps fashion.
I get "all Sydney guys are wankers they are too busy trying to look pretty"

How the fuck do I pull in Sydney? I have mates , through out eye contact etc but the girls are all so hot it feeds me.It's IOI city if you can read IOs.
I talk to these chicks and they scoff at how sucked in Sydney blokes are.Always qualify, always going on about their job ,money ,suburb.I use to be the same.I wanted a fuck but was auditioning as the boyfriend with all that shit..fuck me white beach chicks and NSW country birds go out west to get Leb cock.I'm starting to think they could be the last authentic men in Sydney.I actually use to get pissed off at the Lebs but now I'm getting approached cause they think I'm one..they still can't tell wogs apart like Melbourne can.And it's all a domination game.I get it from Sydney girls in Melbourne and QLD. Talking to a Melbourne Leb at a club who does business up in Sydney we both laughed about it.

On Melbourne I'm seeing a lot of 2nd gen Asian lads with white chicks at the moment.

As for lock out law fair enough if you want to pop pills but there is the Sunday session near a beach which I enjoy more.

I think most guys are taking themselves out the race.Aussie chicks like balls and dudes treating them like shit.The bitch shield comes up if you are not arrogant cheeky or cunt enough.You have to ask how these chicks always banging some cheeky Brit or Irish dude...Oh my God could these guys actually be fun?

Note it took me a couple of years to figure out Sydney the first thing you want to do is build a foundation around a popular social circle, a easy way is a share house in Bondi , Surry Hills it's full of chicks.Also get a manly hobbies anything from Sky diving to diving etc.

Sydney is a young woman's game and it's highly competitive for all chicks.Chicks love to compete.Chicks from overseas who can't compete come to Melbourne city of 6s they don't go to where they have to walk around in summer clothes.Fat little German girls come to Melbourne and masculine French girls.Melbourne dudes are so blinded by their Footy and one eyed Melbourness .I'm kept in Melbourne due to my kids I get out every chance I get to Sydney or QLD. Being from Melbourne is an advantage in Sydney and vice versa that's just the game .Sydney for being single ,Melbourne for having a family.

Well said.

Sydney has the hottest women in Australia by a mile. Beautiful girls from all over. Melbourne has sport. But the talent in Sydney is better.
NYC is an amazing place as is London but the weather in Sydney is preferable to London.
NYC and Sydney are better than London in my opinion although London is a great place to base yourself for work and travel through Europe.

Anywhere Australia Sucks can't get girls sucks.

If you are young and good looking and can get a decent job you will enjoy Sydney.

[JWLZG]

(07-29-2017 03:01 PM)Razors Edge Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 10:36 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

If I didn't have kids I'd move back to Sydney ,it shits all over Melbourne for women.The perv factor alone makes me high.I love seeing hot fit chicks and Sydney does it for me.I can't disagree with Australia Sucks more I don't why you don't just move the fuck out.No hot chicks and you live near the beach?? I find that hard to believe.Come down to Melbourne dude so you know how good you got it..I have met hot Melbourne chicks in Sydney by the way.

I go to Sydney a lot my mates live there I lived there for 7 years.True it's expensive as all fuck.Live near the city or beaches outside that as Australia Sucks says it sucks.(All the chicks I use to know there asked me why I left and tell me I was a fool for doing it.I was so blue pill at the time.)

But whats stopping you from living in a Bondi share house getting a social circle going.You have to build social circle there or you are fucked and if you are not outgoing ,bringing value as the RSD approach troopers say then you are fucked.No one gives a fuck what job you do and no one said getting an education etc will get you pussy.If you keep thinking I need money you are fucked.Your competition is the beach, their phone and coke.Those jacked up cunts are mostly gay.Then you got Sydney blokes dressing the same, all following the latest fashion trend..and they do, same haircut, same beard, same chinos, same sneakers .Same same same.Style trumps fashion.
I get "all Sydney guys are wankers they are too busy trying to look pretty"

How the fuck do I pull in Sydney? I have mates , through out eye contact etc but the girls are all so hot it feeds me.It's IOI city if you can read IOs.
I talk to these chicks and they scoff at how sucked in Sydney blokes are.Always qualify, always going on about their job ,money ,suburb.I use to be the same.I wanted a fuck but was auditioning as the boyfriend with all that shit..fuck me white beach chicks and NSW country birds go out west to get Leb cock.I'm starting to think they could be the last authentic men in Sydney.I actually use to get pissed off at the Lebs but now I'm getting approached cause they think I'm one..they still can't tell wogs apart like Melbourne can.And it's all a domination game.I get it from Sydney girls in Melbourne and QLD. Talking to a Melbourne Leb at a club who does business up in Sydney we both laughed about it.

On Melbourne I'm seeing a lot of 2nd gen Asian lads with white chicks at the moment.

As for lock out law fair enough if you want to pop pills but there is the Sunday session near a beach which I enjoy more.

I think most guys are taking themselves out the race.Aussie chicks like balls and dudes treating them like shit.The bitch shield comes up if you are not arrogant cheeky or cunt enough.You have to ask how these chicks always banging some cheeky Brit or Irish dude...Oh my God could these guys actually be fun?

Note it took me a couple of years to figure out Sydney the first thing you want to do is build a foundation around a popular social circle, a easy way is a share house in Bondi , Surry Hills it's full of chicks.Also get a manly hobbies anything from Sky diving to diving etc.

Sydney is a young woman's game and it's highly competitive for all chicks.Chicks love to compete.Chicks from overseas who can't compete come to Melbourne city of 6s they don't go to where they have to walk around in summer clothes.Fat little German girls come to Melbourne and masculine French girls.Melbourne dudes are so blinded by their Footy and one eyed Melbourness .I'm kept in Melbourne due to my kids I get out every chance I get to Sydney or QLD. Being from Melbourne is an advantage in Sydney and vice versa that's just the game .Sydney for being single ,Melbourne for having a family.

Well said.

Sydney has the hottest women in Australia by a mile. Beautiful girls from all over. Melbourne has sport. But the talent in Sydney is better.
NYC is an amazing place as is London but the weather in Sydney is preferable to London.
NYC and Sydney are better than London in my opinion although London is a great place to base yourself for work and travel through Europe.

Anywhere Australia Sucks can't get girls sucks.

If you are young and good looking and can get a decent job you will enjoy Sydney.

I realised that trying to put Sydney in the same league as SPB or NYC sounds laughable, almost trollish, but having two posters back up my query is a bit of a good sign.

I was under the impression that the first thing a Sydney chick would say to you would be "What do you do for work?" followed maybe by "Do you live in a sharehouse?" but from what Green-on-GO said, that's hardly going to be the case?

A couple of work options for next year onwards (defence, gov't) will require me to relocate to Sydney, so it's a matter of making the most of what I have. These jobs won't necessarily mean I'll be balling it up, but I won't starve. It means I'll need to latch onto a social circle. I've been a bartender and a DJ so I could work in those areas on weekends to build up my friendship groups, unless Sydney girls are that status-conscious that they wouldn't deign to fuck a bartender lol.

My question was whether Sydney does breed that sort of cock-carousel-ish environment à la NYC. My observations were real, about a greater proportion of unattached girls moving to SYD than to Melbourne or Hobart (!!) to chase their you-go-girrrl careerist dreams. I probably wouldn't spend more than a couple of years if SYD if it came to that, so I wouldn't be passing up the chance to live in LDN, SPB or NYC in favour of it.

At the end of the day, I wouldn't want to come up to Sydney starry-eyed only to get arse-raped by $1800 p/m apartments or $25 martinis and come home from the IVY empty-handed lol.

[RatInTheWoods]

Australia is a great place to live, except for the fat ugly bitchy women, and the sky-high prices.

Sydney is an overcrowded, traffic grid-locked, overpriced Asian infested city with a smattering of fat, entitled Aussie chicks pumped up on Feminism, entitlement and man-hate.

My fellow Aussies, make your bank and evacuate for fairer climes!

[Australia Sucks]

This ^^^^^^^^

I could not agree with you more RatInTheWoods. Stack cash in Australia while enjoying the climate and beaches and then get the fuck out once you have enough cash.

[panknows24]

(07-29-2017 11:44 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Green On Go, like I said I live near a well known beach in Sydney and there are some hot girls but they are definitely not easy to pull.

There are so many surfie/gym guys who hang out near the beach who have no life other than looking good and or surfing. You have to compete with these guys as well as the cashed up high income earners who are abundant in these areas. Competition is brutal and you will have to work like a dog just to score the occasional 6.

What good is the presence of girls that are a 7 or 7.5 if they are unobtainable?

I disagree with what you say, eastern suburbs girls and north shore girls do not mix in the same circles as Lebanese/wog guys living out west and they typically do not even go out west for any reason. If you want the CBD, North shore or Eastern suburbs girls in Sydney you have to be prepared to front up against brutal competition. To paraphrase Roosh you will have to bring the Britannica of game just to fuck a 6 in Sydney.

Yes Sydney girls like being treated like shit and strong asshole game will help, but by itself that is not enough, you have to also be either good looking or cashed up.

Game inflation in Sydney is insane. My game has improved over time but I cannot keep up. 5 or 6 years ago if I worked like a dog I could get the occasional date with a 7. Two or three years ago if I worked like a dog I could get an occasional date with a 6. Now I have to work like a dog just to get an occasional date with a 5. I am wealthier and have better game then 5 years ago. Also I look pretty similar to then. The thing that has changed is Sydney just keeps getting harder every year due to game inflation. Its brutal. Quite frankly I rarely even game anymore in Sydney because the juice just is not worth the squeeze.

I have better things to do then socialize with the types of low class trash that are commonly found in share houses. Yeah not all the people that hang out in share houses are douchey losers but most of them are and its not worth living that kind of lifestyle just to fuck a few extra girls.

I'm an Asian guy who is not earning 6 figures and living in a room that's separated by a curtain and I've been pulling numbers and dates and the occasional bang on the weekly.

Are you sure it's not your game that needs work?

Sure Sydney has its flaws in terms of lock-out and high rent. Quality of girls might not be as good as overseas too. There's some things you just can't change. What you can change is your attitude and your game. Your post reeks of negativity and bad mindset. Chin up m8.

[JJH]

I'm European who spent 4 years in Sydney and now almost 4 years in SE Asia...

I love Sydney /Australia in general/ but I always say, to live well in Australia you MUST

- be already a millionaire
- have a wife you love
- have $300+k per year income ... after all with their shitty tax laws $300k = $180k after tax

[UnW]

(07-30-2017 01:56 PM)JJH Wrote:  

- have $300+k per year income ... after all with their shitty tax laws $300k = $180k after tax

The tax side of things is really unfavourable in Australia, so many friends are buying investments properties (which again, are insanely priced) on big loans just to avoid getting tax raped so badly.

[UnW]

(07-30-2017 01:56 PM)JJH Wrote:  

- have $300+k per year income ... after all with their shitty tax laws $300k = $180k after tax

The tax side of things is really unfavourable in Australia, so many friends are buying investments properties (which again, are insanely priced) on big loans just to avoid getting tax raped so badly.