[Cr33pin]

Everything you need to know can be found here

No fap thread

(08-11-2015 12:52 PM)Gamers Wrote:  

It is true?

[komatiite]

Haha this thread gets bumped after Gavin Mcinnes brings it up in the Roosh interview

[DrCotard]

(08-11-2015 12:52 PM)Gamers Wrote:  

It is true?

Also, you can find more info and solid evidence in this site

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

You guys know what I mean!

[GlobalMan]

The issue with porn is not necessarily about killing your libido, its that your are rewiring what your brain responds to. The amount and type of stimuli is not natural for our brains.

The best explanation:

[TigerMandingo]

Vintage porn is great. I still beat off to Taboo with Honey Wilder and Kay Parker. Fantastic hairy pussies and much less aggressive fucking that you see in today's porn.

[Cr33pin]

(08-11-2015 02:54 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Vintage porn is great. I still beat off to Taboo with Honey Wilder and Kay Parker. Fantastic hairy pussies and much less aggressive fucking that you see in today's porn.

Sounds funny coming from "TigerMandingo"

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Porn and porn magazines from the '70s and '80s were great because it was like getting to see the good-looking babysitter or the hot girl at the convenience store in the nude.

I'm not sure when it became a tattoo/plastic surgery freak show, but it's nothing I'll ever pay for. If this generation is really getting off to Christy Mack (whose very name is masculine and unsexy) I can't relate at all.

Regarding getting desensitized to certain types of sexual stimuli: Wouldn't the same go for seeing an endless parade of semi-dressed pop stars and models on TV? Porn seems to be to be an outgrowth of the culture obsessed with exhibitionism.

Seeing all that skin has to have an effect on men and boys, I assume. If it were men showing themselves that much in public to women, you can bet it would be studied and analyzed fifty-thousand times over.

[MKDAWUSS]

I think it depends on what you use it for. Porn in and of itself isn't a bad thing, but it can easily be used to one's detriment.

[scorpion]

This is not really a debate. Porn is fucking terrible for you. Any argument otherwise is male hamster rationalization of an addictive and dangerous vice.

Why is porn so bad? In short, porn is a visual drug that overloads your brain with a massive volume of unearned sexual imagery it is not designed to handle. I've italicized the key words here and will elaborate. Porn is a visual drug, in that it acts on your brain's pleasure centers, creates an addictive response over time and, like other drugs, eventually requires the user to take bigger "hits" in order to get the same high. This results not only in increased consumption of pornography and masturbation, but also a likely increase in the deviant/fetish content of the pornography viewed as well. And porn is an unearned pleasure because watching pornography is free and easy. Your brain was not designed to have such ease of access to thousands of naked, horny young women. You're supposed to have to work for the reward of even seeing a single woman naked and horny. "But scorpion", you say, "we have the internet now, why not take advantage of this technology if it increases our pleasure? What's the harm?" The harm is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You may think you're cheating nature, but you're really just cheating yourself. You're diverting a considerable portion of your masculine energy sitting around jerking off to women on a screen. You may think you're tricking your brain into thinking you're getting laid, but you're actually closer to tricking your brain into thinking you're being cuckolded. You're literally watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you sit by yourself and masturbate. It's really a pathetic form of self-abuse when you look at it like that.

Stop watching porn entirely. There is no healthy amount of pornography to consume, and no reason to view it at all. It is in no way necessary or beneficial for living a healthy, productive life as a masculine man. I think "No Fap" is a little overboard, but might be beneficial for compulsive masturbators who need to break the habit. There's really no need for men to be masturbating more than a couple times a week at most, though (especially if you are actively dating/gaming women as well). If you've cut out porn entirely and are still spanking it that much it's a sign you need to find other productive, creative avenues to channel your energy toward.

[Ingocnito]

Not good when overdone when you've got hittable ass to connect with, but severe long streaks without pussy + no porn isn't good either. You need to exercise it to keep it active. Porn has it's place. Know when to use it.

I for one, have never cared to watch porn while having sex, nor use it to arouse to have sex. In fact it kind of turns me off. It's like having a 3rd party in the room I didn't invite in. The best cure for a girl who wants to watch porn before screwing is a threesome. I also think girls that are into porn during sex tend to be kind of wack jobs, no pun.

[XII]

(08-11-2015 08:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

You may think you're tricking your brain into thinking you're getting laid, but you're actually closer to tricking your brain into thinking you're being cuckolded. You're literally watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you sit by yourself and masturbate. It's really a pathetic form of self-abuse when you look at it like that.

It's very interesting to think about how porn has contributed to the rise of the Feminine Imperative.

Being cuckolded is Beta. If you watch porn growing up, like most teenaged boys do, it's like having been cuckolded thousands of times. If a young boy's formative sexual experiences revolve around porn and virtual cuckolding, it's likely going to shape his later male consciousness to take the form of the anxious Beta male.

My friend's raising a kitten who recently underwent puberty; this young male cat had no problem running up on a female cat and mounting her. The young male cat is naturally Alpha.

Contrast this with a young teenaged boy's earliest attempts to approach a girl (especially nowadays): he is fraught with nerves, anxiety, almost sheer terror. He'd rather post comments on her instagram. He was born Alpha, but reduced to Beta terror through education, social programming, and lots of porn use.

Rollo Tomassi's idea is that coming into your own as an Alpha is not anything artificial, it's simply forgetting everything that society has pressed and programmed into you. Once the artificial Beta socialization has been burned off, then a man's natural Alpha self-importance reveals itself.

Another thing: I've dated a number of strippers, dominatrices, and sex workers over the years, and a lot of them have said that cuckolding is the biggest fetish right now. Women in the know are making shitloads of money, 200k+, by stripping in front of men while telling them they are pathetic pieces of shit with small, impotent dicks. Something to think about.

[Tengen]

Did someone bump this thread because of Roosh's interview with Gavin McInnes?

"Here's a magic Aztec golden orb that will get you pussy, it's called not-watching-porn!"

[lskdfjldsf]

Cutting porn out of my life was the single best decision I ever made. More drive, more focus, I need less sleep, greater motivation and incentive to build meaningful relationships, better body posture, higher testosterone, etc. From sun up to sun down, I want to conquer, plunder, fight, and fuck.

Fapping 2-3 times a week is fine but only when referencing images stored in the Spank Bank.

[loremipsum]

(08-11-2015 08:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

TYou may think you're tricking your brain into thinking you're getting laid, but you're actually closer to tricking your brain into thinking you're being cuckolded. You're literally watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you sit by yourself and masturbate. It's really a pathetic form of self-abuse when you look at it like that.

Funny how it was Tyler from RSD who said in his lectures that he watches porn daily.

Yet if you watch this video from 14:37 onwards, it may resonate with your post.
Coincidence or not?
I don't know but I agree that our brains are not developed for porn.

[Jvramerys]

(08-12-2015 03:00 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 08:13 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

TYou may think you're tricking your brain into thinking you're getting laid, but you're actually closer to tricking your brain into thinking you're being cuckolded. You're literally watching another man fuck a woman you desire while you sit by yourself and masturbate. It's really a pathetic form of self-abuse when you look at it like that.

Funny how it was Tyler from RSD who said in his lectures that he watches porn daily.

Yet if you watch this video from 14:37 onwards, it may resonate with your post.
Coincidence or not?
I don't know but I agree that our brains are not developed for porn.

Waw damn! I didn't know this side of Tyler ! It's like he's promoting cuckoldry !

He used to do (and I hope still do) good videos, giving great advice and mindset like on this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn25Cs

I will just take it as a reminder that if someone can be right in one area, it doesn't mean he will always be right at everything. Don't make Tyler a prophet and always take his advices with a grain of salt ...


By the way, PORN DEFINITELY FUCK OUR BRAINS UP. Especially since high speed internet and porn tube website which provide fucktons of free porn in less than 10 sec ...

It is not for nothing that No Fap/Porn free movement is rising up since a few years.


And yes cuckold, interracial and especially interracial cuckold are the trend now. I would add to that shemale, trap/tranny, femboy, sissy porn . Just go the the main page of some famous porn site or even on 4chan (/gif/, /b/, ...) . This shit wasn't even popular some years ago.

This escalation is the result of porn addiction, nothing less !

[Samseau]

Here's Ted Bundy describing how porn led him into the world of murder-rape:

[pheonix500000]

(08-12-2015 05:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Here's Ted Bundy describing how porn led him into the world of murder-rape:

Listen you guys are smart enough to know that bundy is a master manipulator and would say anything really. That being said is porn bad? without a doubt.

[NY Digital]

I find myself withdrawing to porn at times, perhaps due to addiction; but I noticed that every time I watch it I feel a little empty and desolute afterwards.

I think it's still important to fap to keep your sex drive up, but limit your stimulation to naked pictures or non-nude videos.

This is a much preferred alternative to porn. I found that fapping to beautiful girls that aren't engaging in intercourse eliminates the risk of the whole cuckoldry/fantasy experience, while giving you an incentive to find girls that look like that in real life so you can bang them.

[Libertas]

I have mixed thoughts about this.

When you're just starting out and you have a lot of approach anxiety and probably fapping every day, it's absolutely vital to cut porn out of your life, and if you can do it for a month you'll be well on your way.

When you're a bit more established and you've been in the game for a bit and your anxiety is manageable and you're used to talking to girls and escalating, it might not be so terrible. I recall Troy Francis at ROK wrote numerous times about how watching porn gets you to objectify girls and that's what you need to do in your game. Not sure how much I agree with him. I've found that porn once in a while doesn't really cut into my drive in any way.

But if you're watching porn a lot, you need to stop, especially when you're starting out. Not debatable.

Most porn is boring anyway.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

I've never made it to the end of a porn...
What happens anyway?
Does the guy fixes the sink? Does he install the cable??
Do they eat the pizza???

[RexImperator]

[Samseau]

(08-12-2015 05:25 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  

(08-12-2015 05:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Here's Ted Bundy describing how porn led him into the world of murder-rape:

Listen you guys are smart enough to know that bundy is a master manipulator and would say anything really. That being said is porn bad? without a doubt.

What would his incentive be to indict porn?

[Stadtaffe]

There is a good podcast from Stefan Molyneux on this topic:

https://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3811/your-...-molyneux-

After listening to it about 10 months ago shortly after it came out, I got so scared that I turned a fortnightly porn habit into zero, haven't looked at it even once since then.

It is an overstimulation, but there is probably more wrong with it than that. Overstimulation as in an unnatural intensity of something just like all the sugar in a soft drink.

Just like drinking that all the time will ultimately stuff up your insulin and hormones, porn is also going to break something I regret ever using it at all.

[BortimusPrime]

(08-12-2015 07:38 PM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  

I've never made it to the end of a porn...
What happens anyway?
Does the guy fixes the sink? Does he install the cable??
Do they eat the pizza???

There's mass applause, and all the actors come out to take a final bow while the incels in the audience throw them roses and crusty boxer shorts.