[boets]

I read many threads on this forum and did some research, finally I have many numbers and too many bitches that agreed to meet. I get numbers easily with the day game and escalate faster with each approach, I learned stuff that is more important than what I've learned at the University, my day game experience even helped me in job interviews. So first of all, thanks to all the members that contribute to this forum and helped me to take the red pill.

Now, the problem that I have and can't figure out what to do with it is logistics and as the title says you can probably guess that I'm in a LTR, so I don't have a place to bring all these bitches that I have met recently.
The only solution is the car, or may be a cheap room, but the problem is what do I tell them about my place and why can't we go there.

The second problem is that I don't want to be seen with these bitches in a coffee shop or any other busy environment. So I think to hang out with them in a park or something, but again what do I tell them about that?

[Moma]

Tell them you just moved and your furniture has not arrived yet.

[rikardo_82]

or meet city center and tell you live little bit away or you have some guest - friend visiting you so let's better got to some love hotel
For example in Riga Latvia we have many love hotels cheap rooms for 1H 3H rent with very reasonable prices compared if take all day.

[High Hanging Fruit]

I've been there, and this will fuck up your "one date sex" conversion rate like nothing else.

If you're cheating, you're going to have to be realistic. Because of your horrible logistical situation, bedding girls will be much more difficult. It might well be better to have a few girls who you can call in on and get sex from, rather than trying to game as many girls as possible. And yes, they will get suspicious over time, but who cares, you already have a girl.

In terms of getting the first lay, you've only got two serious options:

1. Go after girls with their own place. Unfortunately this means ruling out most younger girls who live with their parents. Take them out for a drink near where they live and then take them back to their place. Just this Saturday I ignored my own rules and was screwed over by a 20 year old living with her aunt.

2. Book a hotel or, if you're a baller, rent a cheap apartment. Either way, it's going to get expensive quickly.

[Oz.]

If you're cheating bring the bitch to your house and fuck her there, your girlfriend shouldn't be living with you in the first place unless you're married.

[Virtus]

After hanging out for a bit bring then to a seedy motel. If she is down there will be no lmr as there is no taking herself out of it with asd, she'll know what's up, and when she asks why you brought her there talk less and do more. If she bails, well, you just saved $50 and a ton of time

[Laner]

Most girls these days could give a shit if you are in a relationship or not. If they like you, you are in, no matter what.

The downside is that they will suddenly try and shift their power in their direction because they know you cant use the "come to my place and chill" routine. So sometimes they will leave you with blue balls just to feel better.

Women do not really like being a second or third, but they are also not against it either. In fact, some get off on it. Be careful of these ones, they are often women who also get off on massive shitfest drama.

[WestIndianArchie]

Made a logistics post a few days back. Arguably that's level 1 game.

That's thinking like a PUA, like someone that reads books about game, but doesn't really care about women and how they think. Game that's good enough for government work as the saying goes.

Let's talk about GAME though.

The Prize Problem

If you're pulling #'s off of Co-Eds like it's not anything, you're still coming at the game like they're the prize. If chicks are giving their # to you, YOU'RE THE PRIZE. She gets lots of attention from guys, and it's rare that anything catches her attention. Relatively speaking, she might even give out her number a lot. But she definitely says "No I'm not interested, you can't have my #", more than she says "Yes."

So if she gives you her #, that's you being a 10.

No bullshit. I'm not trying to stroke your ego. I don't say that shit to stroke my ego. My sense of self and self worth doesn't come from shit like that.

I don't say stuff to keep my "state up" or to "stay positive".
I don't need "infield affirmations"

I've got experience. I have a code.

I've dated lots of cute and sexy chicks, a handful of STUNNERS - time and time again - finding her is relatively easy for me. If I want to buy a BMW or a Lamborghini, I know where the dealership is.

But her finding *me* is damn near impossible.

Her box and her life is stuffed with bullshit offers from bullshit guys. If she wanted a pretty boy, good body, lots of money, political power, fame, whatever - a hot girl can get it. Those are identifiable and quantifiable things. Those are things you can go to OkCupid and filter for. There plenty of sites that cater to women's interest. There are plenty of social things that make things easier for women to choose.

What women truly want is not something that is easily quantified.

Indeed, what men truly want is not easily quantified either, but it's just easier to live with the idea that you just want a chick that fucks you, feeds you, and shuts the fuck up. Topic for a diff time.

............

Problem Solving and Best Efforts

When I get a number, I understand that the # is really a problem for me to solve. Getting a #, getting a chick to dance, going out on a date....say the right words, make the right moves, and lo and behold the chick is sucking my dick at the end of the night.

So with optimal logistics, it really seems like I'm "doing something".

That's just it, I'M DOING SOMETHING.

*I'm* making everything happen.

Everything that she thinks is a coincidence has been carefully planned by me without her effort or input. I'm basically a tour guide. Every surprise and chance encounter, every word and gesture, if not meticulously planned, is just par for the course. I know that Old Faithful is gonna gush every hour or so. Even though every time it happens, it looks like magic. Things that are surprising to me, I have the emotional wherewithal to not be surprised. So when the world falls apart, it's just like I expected it to. Chicks feed off of that.

Part of the game that vets realize is that women often will mirror your internal state. If you're nervous, she's nervous. If you're comfortable, she's comfortable. If your boss thinks this bullshit idea will work, a lot of the employees think it will work too. It's a human quality that game briefly touches on. They call it vibing. But it goes beyond that. Dogs "vibe" with humans all the time. Anyone who owns an animal knows that...but for whatever reason it's hard to think that humans are that simple. I digress.

This date, this experience she goes through, is all my effort. This is me taking her through a series of stimuli in order to get the proper reaction.

Instead of me bringing flowers and chocolate, and then jetting off to an expensive restaurant, with a chauffeur - i'm taking a chick to Korean BBQ and making her go through an emotional journey. And she'll respond and open up like they always do.

In some sense, with basic game, I've just figured out how to do dating better. That's why girls should be happy if they know you study "game". You learn how to flirt, how to look good, how to make interesting conversation. It's like going to McDonald's after all the employees went to culinary school. Suddenly that Quarter Pounder with cheese, is expertly cooked and garnished properly.

I'm still doing everything though....

All a chick ever does is show up, and later lie back, get on all fours, and swallow. Whatever she does to look nice, she does everyday. It's a routine. She sings a well known song, I have do jazz improv with no bad notes.

What is missing here?

Her effort is missing.

Rethinking this "logistics" problem

So you've got this logistical problem with less than optimal solutions.

Got a broad at home, and most of these co-eds don't have places of their own.

So you rack your brain, but can't think of anything universal or elegant.

Your next impulse is to turn to the brotherhood.

That is a good impulse. Maybe there is someone here with a "paper" solution. Maybe somebody has figured out a good Name Your Own Price for AirBnB, an internet app that turns every vacant room into a love hotel.

But you're the prize here.

So this thing that I have, that she wants, how do I use her desire for me to my advantage?

That's where you should be looking.

So let's look at the problem again, with a "prize attitude", keeping an eye on how much of a seduction that you create by yourself.

You meet this chick on campus, she gives you her number, you talk, you spend time chatting and building....

Your thought process runs straight to the idea that you need to take her someplace, probably to get her tipsy or high, at least to get her alone, and then hammer through her last minute resistance.

What should occur to you is that

What you need is not a place to fuck her, you need her to want to fuck you.

If a chick wants to bang, all she needs to do is slide aside the panties. She has everything she's ever needed to fuck.

A chick on campus knows where the quiet places are, underused student bathrooms, locker rooms, labs that don't get used a lot, rare book section of the literature library...

Right now you're thinking of these chicks as prizes. It's why you can't bring a chick home to your spot. Your GF is a prize, and you're treating her as such. Got her up in the castle pretending to be queen, ruling you like a vassal.

Think Game.

What kind of impression can I make on this girl that gets her wet?
What kind of experiences do I need to create for her, so that she really starts to desire me?

If you come at this by just trying to get the phone #, set up a coffee date, see a gallery, and then try to play hide the salami in the back row the dollar movie theater - you're basically limiting your game and what you can learn about women.

What can you say to her to make her blush BEFORE you fuck her?

Ask yourself this now, when I talk to these chicks, when I take them out, am I really trying to monkey with their minds?

Or am I just exposing her to shit, having the right answers, and just using smooth logistics to make happen what is natural?

Is she just going with the flow, or am I making her WANT ME?

The typical approach is very passive on the girl side.
A different approach makes it very active on the girl side.

Am I trying to do things and say things to her, that make her want to consciously fuck me?

Not just get her hot, so she wants to fuck, but she wants to fuck ME.
You're not looking for auto-response, like sticking your fingers in her mouth and she starts sucking your index finger like it was a dick.

When a girl wants to fuck a dude, she will make it happen.
She will have ideas.

It's real fashionable around these parts to think that women are dumb, stupid, slaves to their emotions - and they basically have to be tolerated but for the fact that they have pussies. And the pussy is basically a depreciating asset once she gets to legal age.

Like many of the problems in contemporary game, you're just leaving money on the table when you think like that.

You've just gotten a number from a 19 year old with a tight body and poor attention span. You can try and send witty texts, set up a cool little date some place far from campus, and then figure out a place to bang from there - but if you've already done that style of game - why not try something completely different? Especially if you're getting a lot of #'s.

Could you take on the mindset that this is your main chick, and you've already banged, and you're trying to spice shit up. Can you take that mentality and inspire a new chick to think on HER feet?

What if you spend the entire time with a chick in a hookah lounge sexually teasing the hell out of her and then getting her to do more and more things for you in that context? What if you start giving her requests that require her to think about how to please you?
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Or you could just get a hotel.

WIA

[boets]

Thanks all
But where should I set up date with her?
Like i said coffee shops or bars is a bit of a problem, may see there familiar people and I usually don't pay for the bitch

[XXL]

My favorite: cooking together at her place.

Tell her to meet up in the city. Go for a coffee to warm things up. Go shopping for ingredients. Go back to her place. Cook eat drink bang.

Don't show affection in public. Act like you're with a colleague or friend.

That's the rough plan. Take it from there and make it yours.

[boets]

I met yesterday one of the chicks.
First of all she wasn't my type, but I decided that I probably should titty fuck her anyway. We didn't even go to a coffee shop or something, straight to her place, but there was a surprise, she lives with her parents. So anyway nothing happened, except a short make out at the end. Online game is a waste of time.

I decided that I will prepare for the next chicks by checking for cheap rooms nearby, but how do I convince them to go there at the first date? the rooms are rented for 2-3 hours

[Mr.Philippines]

Not trying to hijack your thread, just want to state my experiences.

Unfortunately, deep down inside I know I shouldn't be fucking around when I'm in an exclusive relationship but Ive decided to go against my right and wrong compass and go down that path...multiple times.

Maybe it just me or maybe I haven't messed around enough to be callous to the fact, but every time I step outside the bounds of the relationship, I always end up feeling like shit afterwards.

Im 24, cheated on every girl I've been with.

There is a phycological factor into cheating that you will have to face. The next day when I see my girl, its always a little different because deep down I know that I did something I shouldn't have done.

Regardless, just make sure your mentally prepared to accomplish what you came for. AKA, not giving a fuck about the consequences that come with cheat.

Anyways, as for logistics, if your parents live close by, sneak them there (what I do).

A lot college girls and their roommates, don't mind having guys over since most college rooms are apartments in an apartment. Bring alcohol, a fun adult board game and have fun.

If its was a little warmer, go to the park, watch the sunset together and proceed on fucking the shit out of her on the jungle gym.

[drmariusz]

Is it better to tell the truth that this is cheating or hide this information?

[PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON]

(05-29-2016 02:00 PM)drmariusz Wrote:  

Is it better to tell the truth that this is cheating or hide this information?

Imply that it's cheating but never outright tell bro. The idea of a sultry affair will get her panties wet but not telling her outright that she's taking part in cheating will give the hamster some deniability.

[Bogart]

(06-02-2016 12:01 AM)PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 02:00 PM)drmariusz Wrote:  

Is it better to tell the truth that this is cheating or hide this information?

Imply that it's cheating but never outright tell bro. The idea of a sultry affair will get her panties wet but not telling her outright that she's taking part in cheating will give the hamster some deniability.

Doesn't this increase the risk of blowback on your main relationship and make you look slimy/beta?

I mean that's based on the assumption brutal honesty and giving no fucks gets the gina tingles going, as does the DHV of having 50 Shades like terms (non-disclosure) which heightens the taboo.

I'm engaged in heavy flirting/highly sexualised banter with a girl from one of my classes. She knows about my girlfriend and has even said she wants to meet her (I assume to size up the competition). I've kept the terms of our relationship vague, and she knows i've had threesomes with the current primary girl in the past so there is still plausible deniability but i'm thinking it may be better to risk hamster death and just make it clear that no-one is to know if things come to fruition.... unless anyone has some life experience they want to drop on me?