[ash093]

I was wondering - didn't sound right, LOL

[ash093]

So guys, a lot of you are recommending Columbus, which to me seems cool too, but what about Football and Basketball Seasons considering their sports programs are REALLY good and have a ridiculous fan base? I'll honestly care less about sports most likely since I'll be living there to get my foundation built at an affordable rate and it would be just weird, LOL. I am also still wondering about Dallas and Houston, especially since I HATE snow.

[The Reactionary Tree]

Well this past winter was particularly bad. One nice thing about Columbus vs say Cleveland or Chicago is that there is no lake effect snow. It still snows in Columbus and winters are cold of course.

Houston is like in a swamp climate. It is very hot and humid for a long time. No snow there lol.

[Fighting888]

Atlanta, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Charlotte.

All highly recommended for:

-low cost of living
-strong job growth
-lots of "gaming" opportunities

[simondice]

Orlando, FL
Las Vegas, Nevada
Austin Texas

[MikeinMKE]

Chicago is relatively cheap for being a world-class city.

I know that Houston and Dallas are getting more culture and hip, but I still am biased at their relative lack of history, their shitty "new" architecture and suburban sprawl, and baptist/socially conservative views that so many adhere to.

[one-two]

New Orleans night life is so much better than Detroit. I don't know about apartment prices, but there is no way you will find a packed bar on a weekday in Detroit.

[apoclater]

As a guy who has lived in quite a few large to world-class cities (Chicago, Tampa, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Orlando), let me say this:

Don't live in Tampa or Orlando. Florida is a transient state and everyone seems to have a plan to stay for a couple years and get out. It's for a reason.

Atlanta is just ok. You can probably find arguments for and against its logistics, job growth, women, etc--personally I'd stay away.

Milwaukee is a great and growing a lot, although the weather sucks.

Chicago, well…you should stay there. Winters are rough, but otherwise Chicago is amazing. You can find something cheaper in Lincoln Square, Pilsen, etc for less than $1k for a 1 BR. I don't have to mention the quality of women, its international stature, public transit, etc. Stay where you are and just adjust what you're doing.

[ash093]

You two guys right Chicago IS relatively cheap compared to other world class cities butthe problem is finding a place that's up north and isn't a total dump for a good price (everything is like $875+) and that won't disqualify me be ause my credits in the low 600's instead of 650 like they want. I've also got to be in my place by July 1st so just a few more weeks left. Also I put in my 5 day notice at my job yesterday so I'll be done on Sunday. I will now be trading full time. Am also looking at the burbs since they seem to be cheaper and nicer

[puckerman]

(06-17-2014 02:13 PM)simondice Wrote:  

Austin Texas

Austin is not cheap. And I hear stories all the time of people getting paid more money for the same job in other towns, in towns with a lower cost of living. This is especially the case with DFW and Houston.

Traffic is also absolutely, positively horrible. Bad traffic and high cost of living often go together. And here's why. Because of grossly inadequate highways, people are unwilling to live far away from the center of the area. This places a premium on places that are in the middle of town.

When I lived in Columbus, there was a premium on living in the suburbs because they had "good schools." I lived in the middle of Columbus and had a lot more than I have here. People don't mind commuting from the suburbs to go downtown.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/business...332.735385

Here is a quote which is one for the ages. Apparently this idiot got so many phone calls that she took down here web site. Her name is Gretchen Gardner:

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”

I wonder if she ever voted for highways.

[The Reactionary Tree]

(06-18-2014 02:37 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 02:13 PM)simondice Wrote:  

Austin Texas

Here is a quote which is one for the ages. Apparently this idiot got so many phone calls that she took down here web site. Her name is Gretchen Gardner:

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”

I wonder if she ever voted for highways.

What a retard. "I voted for all kinds of government spending and now I cant afford the taxes to live here."

[Cattle Rustler]

(06-18-2014 02:37 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 02:13 PM)simondice Wrote:  

Austin Texas

Austin is not cheap. And I hear stories all the time of people getting paid more money for the same job in other towns, in towns with a lower cost of living. This is especially the case with DFW and Houston.

Traffic is also absolutely, positively horrible. Bad traffic and high cost of living often go together. And here's why. Because of grossly inadequate highways, people are unwilling to live far away from the center of the area. This places a premium on places that are in the middle of town.

I agree with this. There's no such thing as "no traffic" in Austin. There's always traffic. All the hype about Austin being a liberal cool city with a huge university and high tech jobs brought a lot of people from out of state, which put a strain on the housing supply.

This is a problem with Dallas too, too many people from out of state are driving our rents up. Before a 3 bedroom apartment in the ghetto going for 850 is now 1100. A nice one bedroom? 700ish.

[Sp5]

Albuquerque or El Paso or any of the smaller cities in the area, like Las Cruces.

[___]

(06-18-2014 05:38 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

I agree with this. There's no such thing as "no traffic" in Austin. There's always traffic. All the hype about Austin being a liberal cool city with a huge university and high tech jobs brought a lot of people from out of state, which put a strain on the housing supply.

This is a problem with Dallas too, too many people from out of state are driving our rents up. Before a 3 bedroom apartment in the ghetto going for 850 is now 1100. A nice one bedroom? 700ish.

I was going to correct your earlier post in this thread, but you hit it here. Transplants who've drunk the "Texas is the future/Austin is the shit" kool-aid have jacked the housing market and transportation infrastructure all they way up in the top metro areas.

There are shitty complexes in the Dallas' 635 loop (same thing inside the Houston 610) w/ units going for over $900. Basic newer construction is averaging $1200 for a 1 bedroom. Bro, those are prices I paid when I lived in SoCal not to long ago...there at least it was justifiable.

Still some diamonds in the rough but they are few and far between.

[Cattle Rustler]

(06-18-2014 12:16 PM)___ Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 05:38 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

I agree with this. There's no such thing as "no traffic" in Austin. There's always traffic. All the hype about Austin being a liberal cool city with a huge university and high tech jobs brought a lot of people from out of state, which put a strain on the housing supply.

This is a problem with Dallas too, too many people from out of state are driving our rents up. Before a 3 bedroom apartment in the ghetto going for 850 is now 1100. A nice one bedroom? 700ish.

I was going to correct your earlier post in this thread, but you hit it here. Transplants who've drunk the "Texas is the future/Austin is the shit" kool-aid have jacked the housing market and transportation infrastructure all they way up in the top metro areas.

There are shitty complexes in the Dallas' 635 loop (same thing inside the Houston 610) w/ units going for over $900. Basic newer construction is averaging $1200 for a 1 bedroom. Bro, those are prices I paid when I lived in SoCal not to long ago...there at least it was justifiable.

Still some diamonds in the rough but they are few and far between.

Yup, the ghettos are getting gentrified and the suburbs are becoming McMansion battles leaving no room for the people who've been here all their lives. My friend is renting a 2-bedroom hood apartment next to 635 where construction is going on at night (his car is dusty every morning). His rent? 860 + bills.

[Fighting888]

Phoenix seems like it'd be cool too.

[ddjembe mutombo]

Fort Worth, TX, is pretty dope. All of Ohio is pretty cheap. Pittsburgh and Detroit are dirt cheap. I imagine Indianapolis is inexpensive. Upstate, NY, is super cheap and pretty cool in my opinion.

Portland, OR, and Denver, CO, are reasonable but super duper liberal.

Chicago sucks.

[Joga Bonito]

Surprisingly, Detroit is not as cheap as you would think(within the context of running game and keeping in mind areas that you actually would want to be in). High taxes, very high insurance and rapidly rising rents in the Downtown and Midtown neighborhoods, due to lack of vacancies and rising popularity.

[ash093]

(06-19-2014 06:42 PM)ddjembe mutombo Wrote:  

Chicago sucks.

[Baldwin81]

Ash,

If you're going to move to the burbs take a look at Oak Park / Forest Park. Once you get further out and into DuPage county there's a big trade off between cost of living and fun. In DuPage county it's like everyone is older, married or divorced, and - while everything you need is close by - you have to drive everywhere. At least with Oak Park and Forest Park you have some semblance of an urban area.

Chicago's weird because it's cheaper than smaller east coast cities. At the same time, living in the city can be a bit of a shake-down since everything's more expensive within city limits. When you factor in the weather and the traffic (if you have to drive) sometimes you wonder whether it's worth it.

Take it from a person who has some hard-won experience in this area: Unless you're going to move to Oak Park / Forest Park, or a suburb with an urban vibe, you're better off ditching the region entirely.

If you're going to duck out of the region entirely I'd recommend Charlotte, NC. It's decidedly smaller-scale compared to Chicago and but the climate is just right. Of course, Charlotte is in the south so culture's a bit different, but if that doesn't bother you then Charlotte would be dope.

PS You're fucking nuts if you move to Detroit.

[cool]

Pittsbugh is a fine sports town and has a beautiful skyline but also long dark cold winters and average chicks. Its not sexy at all.

It has a casino too.

I imagine a well put together man would have little competition.

[ash093]

(06-20-2014 08:10 PM)cool Wrote:  

Pittsbugh is a fine sports town and has a beautiful skyline but also long dark cold winters and average chicks. Its not sexy at all.

It has a casino too.

I imagine a well put together man would have little competition.

Pittsburgh....meh lol

[Fighting888]

Detroit's suburbs are just fine, but the city is a no go zone.

[speakeasy]

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[metalhaze]

Hi, I was wondering how much would it cost to live in Miami ?