[skulled]

The Scandinavian countries are not necessarily cheap, so please that keep that in mind. Eastern European countries are, but Scandinavian countries are among the more expensive places.

I don't know much about Finland, Denmark, Norway or Iceland but Sweden has a great share of good looking girls. Actually scratch that, it has an extremely big share of gorgeous women. To this day, I think I have seen the highest percentage of hot women in Stockholm amongst all the countries I have lived in. I haven't been to South America, so perhaps it is biased. There probably is not a lot of variety, because most of the girls you will see will be blonde, but there is a good percentage of brunettes.

Stockholm by itself is pretty small, but the social and night life are great. Language might be an issue, but the young crowds all speak English so it should not be a huge deal, definitely not to the extent it seems to be Paris for example from other's comments.

The city is pretty historic, and there is a bunch of stuff to see apart from girls, so all in all it is a good destination for a few days to a week depending on your budget. As I mentioned it is quite expensive in Stockholm, so expect to shell out some cash if you want to go out and have a good time. There are a number of areas around the city with active night life, and each has its own pros and cons. The best night life in the city is in a rather upscale area and you will be paying top dollar hanging out here, but it is worthwhile if money is not an issue for you.

The city is quite fashionable as well, especially when it comes to night life in above said upscale areas, so dress to kill. Otherwise the bouncers won't even let you near the door, leave alone going in. The Swedes are generally a bit reserved at first, but not as reserved as the Finnish for example from what I know. A few drinks, and they loosen up like no one else and soon there will be no reservations.

If you have any specific questions about Stockholm, let me know and I will try to answer them to my best knowledge. It has been almost 3 years now since I was there, so things might have changed a bit but overall I doubt it has changed drastically. Damn, I miss those Tunnelbana (subway) rides in Stockholm, so many gorgeous girls it was like being on the ramp at a fashion event ... I need to go back soon!!

[lottery]

Houston if you want the easiest girls of your life, try dominican republic and Cuba, they are mostly mulattos so you will feel like you look a bit different and even if you looked like them you wouldnt have a problem in pulling, i look like them and i did more than ok.

If you want to hit europe, in France you want to go to Lille, easiest chicks there, in England you want to try Leeds, then go to a small town called Norwich (i literally destroyed those cities), then in Poland krakow, i never been to krakow, but next time im free its where im heading if i have to choose a new place in Europe.

It also depends what kind of girls you like.

[emh]

I would definitely NOT recommend anywhere in Asia. Most Asians are quite prejudiced against people with dark skin. They prefer light skinned people, the lighter the better. You'd definitely stand out, but not in a good way.

[Moma]

(02-17-2011 05:22 AM)lottery Wrote:  

Houston if you want the easiest girls of your life, try dominican republic and Cuba, they are mostly mulattos so you will feel like you look a bit different and even if you looked like them you wouldnt have a problem in pulling, i look like them and i did more than ok.

If you want to hit europe, in France you want to go to Lille, easiest chicks there, in England you want to try Leeds, then go to a small town called Norwich (i literally destroyed those cities), then in Poland krakow, i never been to krakow, but next time im free its where im heading if i have to choose a new place in Europe.

It also depends what kind of girls you like.

Yea Dominican Republic seems easy as fcuk and I know a lotta of dudes that fcuk Cuba to pieces.

[rudebwoy]

Dash Global gave you the best answer imho. I would add Europe is expensive, flight, accomodations and food. Eastern Europe is less expensive but then there is the problem of girls speaking english. Please do not waste your time with Prague, played out.
I am still laughing that you would choose Paris, my mate went there a few years back to some nightclub and could not get in even though he was was waving Euros in his hand. The french love themselves and think everything is great in there country.
Scandinavia is great choice but extremely expensive and like most places I still feel you have to be there for a week at least. Without fail every girl in Stockholm asked me off the bat how long I was in town for, I will not return til I can spend a week or more.
Guys fuck girls to pieces in DR and Cuba because they are paying for the service, let us not get it twisted.
Also someone suggest Norwich, UK - why the heck would you leave USA to take a holiday in Norwich. WTF
Ukraine is high on my list of places and a good recommendation, the only real cost is to get there but the place would be cheap. If you read this board enough you will see Ukraine gets mentioned quite a bit.
I live in Canada, do not even think of Toronto - your game has to be off the charts here. Montreal would be my suggestion, you get your French flavour in North American city. I do hope you speak some french?

[Screwston]

There's so many choices, I made a list from everyones recommendations. I don't have a crazy amount of money to blow and I don't know about these fashion places. What exactly do I have to wear to get into these fashionable clubs/spots? Some of these European countries that are expensive and so fashion crazy are starting to turn me off.

Skulled - you mentioned Eastern European countries will be cheaper. Maybe I should stick with an EE spot.

[Dash Global]

flights to EE are gonna cost to much for ur budget imo.

Best bet is to go to the Caribbean coast of Colombia. Dress stylish and open and there is no WAY you will not get laid.

[Screwston]

Global Dash - why do u think Colombia would be my best bet in South America? Girls are more laid back and friendlier than other countries?

Rudebwoy - Canada is still an option. Would Montreal be my best bet up there? I don't know French but I would learn some before heading out there.

[Dash Global]

(02-17-2011 01:04 PM)houston Wrote:  

Global Dash - why do u think Colombia would be my best bet in South America? Girls are more laid back and friendlier than other countries?

Rudebwoy - Canada is still an option. Would Montreal be my best bet up there? I don't know French but I would learn some before heading out there.

Girls on the Caribbean from my research are pretty laid back and fun loving. For you and ur friend, all you have to do is dress fly and you will have no trouble getting ass if you have any swag or game. Colombian girls are the most DTF of all of South America imo as far as hooking up with cats they barely know.

Asia and EE are to expensive for ur budget imo. For the total package Girls, Partying, Budget... Colombia is ur best bet

[rudebwoy]

(02-17-2011 01:04 PM)houston Wrote:  

Global Dash - why do u think Colombia would be my best bet in South America? Girls are more laid back and friendlier than other countries?

Rudebwoy - Canada is still an option. Would Montreal be my best bet up there? I don't know French but I would learn some before heading out there.

With no French I will say Montreal is not your number one option in Canada, I will give you a tip (drum roll please) - check out St John's Nfld on the east coast of Canada. It is an island and the girls like to party, plus they will not see too many of your type. Vancouver would be another place but it might be a bit costly,otherwise a good city to visit aside from girls.

Hey Roosh, do I get another star now!

[Luckystar]

(02-16-2011 10:30 PM)Tommy Wrote:  

Odessa in Ukraine !!!

English is an issue in Ukraine from what I hear. It certainly is in Russia, I know that first hand.

[Luckystar]

(02-17-2011 01:29 AM)houston Wrote:  

(02-17-2011 12:54 AM)Mystik Wrote:  

(02-17-2011 12:12 AM)houston Wrote:  

How was iceland? Are eastern european girls really that crazy about brown and black guys? Finland hmmm. So many choices...

Roosh is in Iceland right now. I think he is planning to write a report on it soon. For me it would have easily been the easiest country to get laid but the girls were very aggressive and I did not have enough time to get adjusted.

Finland I hear is the same. The only bad part about Iceland is that there is nothing much to see in Reykjavik. If you are a nature lover then the cities outside Reykjavik are nice but the population of these cities is so small that swooping opportunities decrease considerably.

I would suggest a trip to both Finland and Iceland because the flights from the Scandinavian countries to Iceland are very cheap. In fact, you will have to make a stopover at one the 3 Scandinavian countries or the UK if you are going to Iceland.

EE, haven't been there. But the ones I met in western europe looked pretty crazy about non-white guys. Its exotic and something new for them. Why wouldn't they like it?

How big are the cities in those countries and also Sweden, Denmark and Holland? I'm thinking a European country or Canada at this point. Maybe South America but I'm not sure yet.

I m Canadian, I love my country (MTL esp.), but dude do not take your first international trip to Canada. There are far more interesting and rewarding places for your mind and meat.

If you are set on Europe, go to EE. Try Poland even though it seems everyone is flocking to Krakow these days. If you are feeling adventurous, go to Serbia, Croatia. Hot slavic girls and cheap from what I hear. Do your homework though.

[Dash Global]

i second that. dont go to friking Canada for ur first international experience.

[rudebwoy]

Let us not forget this guy has never left US of A before and it sounds like money is a problem. Who knows if he has even crossed state lines and you guys are sending him to some pretty exotic locales.
Maybe Mexico, DR and Colombia would be his best bets.

[Screwston]

Yeah, Canada seems to much like home. I want something different than what I'm used to. Colombia sounds nice, my buddy said he's heard good things about it also. I really want to go to Europe for those girls but it sounds like the odds are against me with English issues and money

[Dash Global]

(02-17-2011 06:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

Yeah, Canada seems to much like home. I want something different than what I'm used to. Colombia sounds nice, my buddy said he's heard good things about it also. I really want to go to Europe for those girls but it sounds like the odds are against me with English issues and money

I think u know where u gotta go. colombia cough cough.

[skulled]

If money is an issue, then I suggest you go South America rather than Europe.

As I mentioned Europe is not especially cheap, at least not Western Europe and the Scandinavian countries. And I am not sure if Eastern Europe is a very good idea given this is your first time out of the US.

Although Eastern Europe is comparatively cheaper, countries like Ukraine etc might not necessarily be a good idea given language issues. If you really do want to go to Europe then I would suggest Poland and maybe Bulgaria. I have heard some good things about Bulgaria, and the girls there are pretty open from what I have heard. Know a number of Bulgarians and they are a fun bunch and love to party.

Otherwise to keep the airfares etc cheaper I would suggest you stay on the same side of the Atlantic.

[Screwston]

Thanks everyone. Does everyone agree that Colombia is the best country for me in South America? Why or why not?

Just curious, why do y'all say Europe isn't a good idea for my first time out of the country?

[Luckystar]

(02-17-2011 07:23 PM)houston Wrote:  

Thanks everyone. Does everyone agree that Colombia is the best country for me in South America? Why or why not?

Just curious, why do y'all say Europe isn't a good idea for my first time out of the country?

Because of cost mainly. Europe will be more expensive. EE is better for English than SA though.

Spanish will be a major factor in Colombia. How is your Spanish?

[BaronStanley]

going to Ukraine is very intimidating... nobody speaks English and everything is even in a different alphabet. As a first time traveler, it might be overwhelming. That being said the women are smoking and its not hard too hard to get laid. Kiev has the hottest women out of anywhere Ive been and Ive been around.

you would probably be better off going elsewhere in EE. Like Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania since they speak solid English and quality of girls is still top notch.

In W. Europe, Amsterdam's pretty awesome. Lots of tourists to bang from all over Europe and the Dutch speak English well. Quality of girls is somewhat subpar compared to other European cities... i blame the large amount of British chics.

South America is an alright option but its 3rd world so be prepared for that. Its a very different vacation experience than your original offering of Paris.

[Screwston]

Luckystar - my Spanish is decent. I understand a lot more than I can speak. I'm going to work on it though. We don't plan on taking this trip until at least the summer, if not later.

Baronstanley - I've been to 2 border towns in Mexico and know how it is. Walked thru some nasty ghettos in Juarez and chilled with some local people in their homes. I think the only thing worse than that would be a village or some shit.

How much more expensive will Europe be than South America? The deciding factor at this point between those 2 is the cost. Will $2,000 (including flight, hotel/hostel, food, fun money, etc) for each of us be enough in SA or EUrope?

[skulled]

houston - How long do you guys want to go for? It comes down to that and the air fare more or less, because these are the two factors which will determine where you can stretch out your budget to the maximum.

Practically speaking, $2000 for the entire trip basically is going to mean you can knock off all the expensive cities/countries out of contention. This includes Paris, Stockholm and the likes, more or less the Western European and Scandinavian countries.

Eastern Europe might offer a few cities which should be doable. But then you are going to need to make sure that the air fare is the cheapest you can get, so that it doesn't take too much out of your budget. If you are not going for a few months anyway, it might be cheap to book your tickets soon since they will become expensive as time goes on especially during the summer.

If you are decent in Spanish already, then SA might be the best option for you at this point given the budget constraints. Maybe brush up on Spanish a bit more in the coming few months, and you should be set. And I am guessing you don't really need me to tell you more about SA girls, just do a search and you should have enough information on the quality of the girls down there.

[Screwston]

Skulled - I'm thinking 5 days up to a week. Let's say 6 or 7 days just to be on the safe side.

If I decide to go to Europe, what's the last hot month we can head out there? I hate cold weather with a passion. I'm guessing the tickets will be cheaper if we buy them together?

It sounds like SA is going to be a lot better for us if its really that much cheaper. I don't want to be in Europe with hardly any money to go have some fun.

[K-man]

Let me share a few thoughts on some of the options that were offered:

"If you are feeling adventurous, go to Serbia, Croatia." - I know many Serbian girls but I've never fucked one. I think they are just hard nuts to crack. Plus, Serbian guys can be aggressive, remember wars and ethnic cleansing 10 years ago? If you watch a soccer game on Serbian TV, the announcer would even curse the other team, hardcore shit like "fuck y'all's mothers" - that's the type of people they are. Not sure if you'll like it.

"Amsterdam's pretty awesome." - and pretty expensive. Hotel 90 Euro, beer 5 Euro, meal 15 Euro. Cheapest thing is pot in coffeeshops, 4-8 Euro per joint, depending on quality. Most people you'll see in the streets around the centre would be groups of 5-6 guys slapping high-fives, high on weed, hollering at the girls in the Red Lights District. The city is beautiful, though.

"Stockholm - The city is quite fashionable" - I have not been, but I've seen many Swedish girls vacationing in Bulgaria's Sunny Beach resort, there is a special Viking Club geared specially towards Scandinavians. Fashion? Their fashion was basically black tights under a knee-length skirt, it's so universal that after a while you could spot who the Swedish girls are just by cathing a glimpse on the street. Not my idea of fashion. Girls were good-looking otherwise, but I could not bang any. I found they mostly stuck to their group of friends. Maybe this was due to perception of safety being in a foreign country, etc.

Bulgaria - that's where I currently live. If you visit in the summertime, skip the cities and go straight to the beach, because night life moves there, some clubs even close for 2-3 months and open their summer locations instead. Hotel 20-50 Euro (well, there are 5-star hotels for 150, as well), local beer 1-2 Euro, meal 5 Euro, bottle service 50 Euro for Red Johnnie or Smirnoff vodka. Girls are good-looking, plus lots of foreigners at the beach, mostly from Europe and Russia. Very few Americans, few dark-skin types, so you might capitalize on that.

However, you budget of $2k may not be enough - just airfare to Europe is going to be $1-1.2k in active season, half of what you have left will go for accomodation and local travel, and then you also have food and going out, which in some places you may quickly run a large tab, depending on what you drink and how many girls and local "buddies" you buy drinks for. Don't forget emergencies, local phone for calling girls, taxis... shit adds up.
I already said that if it were up to me, I'd just book an all-inclusive beach resort in a place like Turkey, then you just leave your wallet in the room safe the first day and start the party - but you have to be in a large hotel so there's enough talent.

[Mystik]

(02-18-2011 07:50 AM)K-man Wrote:  

If you are feeling adventurous, go to Serbia, Croatia." - I know many Serbian girls but I've never fucked one. I think they are just hard nuts to crack. Plus, Serbian guys can be aggressive, remember wars and ethnic cleansing 10 years ago? If you watch a soccer game on Serbian TV, the announcer would even curse the other team, hardcore shit like "fuck y'all's mothers" - that's the type of people they are. Not sure if you'll like it.

These are your assumptions, right?