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05-26-2014, 10:55 PM
So I'm looking for a little bit of advice on business ideas for someone who is very good at math, and wants a little bit of adventure. I'm a college student who runs his own tutoring business on the side. I found it by mistake and it was fun running things for a while, but my heart is not really in it. I want to find something really interesting and something that involves my natural math skills with creative outlets. I was thinking something in the music business or something in animation like Pixar.
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05-27-2014, 01:57 AM
FBI is always hiring quants
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05-27-2014, 08:59 AM
Quote: (05-27-2014 01:57 AM)calihunter Wrote:
FBI is always hiring quants
FBI typically requires masters degree
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05-27-2014, 09:39 AM
Google is a good place to look. They are always hiring. If you have a creative side and can make yourself stand out from the rest of the applicants...you're good.
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05-27-2014, 11:28 AM
Appreciate the advice guys. I'm looking to start out a business myself though, not really work for someone else (not my thing). I was thinking is there any industries that use surprising uses for math and technology, maybe some insight into the people who are engineers and entrepreneurs themselves.
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05-27-2014, 11:42 AM
engineering
some dudes i know just started a company that uses a 3d printer to make stuff and they have to engineer everything. not doing very well now but who knows in 2-3 yrs.
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05-27-2014, 05:32 PM
By and large, mathematics and engineering are the skills of employees.
Do you want to own a business, or run one? Do you want to be using your mathematical skills every day as a service provider/consultant, or do you actually want to own the business machine that makes the money?
Thing with mathematics is, like any specialist skill or ability, that one skill does not a business make.
And basing a business around one skill makes you a freelancer or a consultant, not a business owner.
There are definitely businesses based on numerical or technical services - software development, data/statistical analytics, etc - but there are also much easier businesses to start.
And even if you did want to run a technical services business, being a software developer or an analytics ninja yourself doesn't necessarily help massively, because the key skills in client-based service businesses are things like sales, marketing, product-market fit, positioning/differentiation, automation, biz processes, hiring, etc etc.
Of course, knowing your craft helps, but if you actually want to "own the machine", you'll be employing others to do the actual technical work anyway. See the post from the guy who opened a web design/dev shop with no actual ability in those skills himself. His success was due to sales, hiring the right people and mastery of his business processes.
An alternative that might interest you more is running a business where your service isn't necessarily your technical/mathematical skills per se, but they are the key factor for success in your business. e.g. something like affiliate marketing or a digital products business where the bulk of your day is spent in in testing, optimising and analysing data in Adwords and Google Analytics to squeeze maximum profit from your offer.
My main point is, do you want to use your skills to be a solo service provider, or do you want to own the cashflow-generating machine? If the latter, then you may need to shift focus off actually doing math/technical work, and onto mastery of the key factors for a successful service business.
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05-27-2014, 06:07 PM
I hear ya. Can you code, build web or mobile apps? Technical founders who can code and also have actual biz experience ( I read your tutoring thread) are rare and valuable. You'd be well-positioned to start SaaS biz as you'd be able to spot good developers and manage them, and also stay focused on the customer.
If you can't code yet, it might be worth learning web or mobile development. It won't be hard for a mathematics major.
That said, even as a technical founder in a software business it's still almost always better to spend your efforts on the critical activities - and that's finding product/market fit, cutting deals, pitching, selling, etc - than it is to be knee-deep in code. Definitely use your coding skills to manage your developers, but business is all about leveraging other people's skills.
Then again, there's a great case for doing what you love. How about partnering with a marketing/biz guy and building something that solves a real problem for a lucrative niche?
Supposedly the key skills among co-founders are development (building the product), design, and marketing. Maybe being the technical founder and partnering with an MBA or marketing guy would be a smart move.
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05-28-2014, 10:17 AM
What do you mean very good at math? Kind of vague. To some it's the plug and chug they associate with high school math and for others it's proof writing they associate with higher mathematics or to some it's the ability to develop mathematical models for problems in the real world.
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05-28-2014, 10:34 AM
Higher level math. Just above the uses of differential equation, and other engineering courses.
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05-28-2014, 11:08 PM
What kind of engineering are you in? Does it interest you long term?
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05-29-2014, 06:53 PM
What does your school offer? Mech is a great choice either way, probably the most versatile degree in the world. And if you are really sick at math it should be a breeze
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05-29-2014, 09:47 PM
Help me build the hyperdrive, we'll be rich.
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05-31-2014, 07:08 PM
As someone with a very deep knowledge in math I can tell you that your familiarity with cohomology rings will not get you very far outside of a few niché areas of cryptography or very high end computational efficiency problems. It's very difficult to make money from deep understanding of a field alone. You need to be able to take your deep understanding from one field and apply figure out how you can leverage it to make connections between seemingly unrelated and disparate fields.
Become an expert in one thing (sounds like you might be there). Then become familiar with as many other things as possible - familiar enough that you can converse meaningfully with an expert in any of those fields. Now figure out how to bring concepts from all those different fields together to develop a new solution to a problem and you've got yourself a business.
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06-01-2014, 04:08 AM
Quote: (05-27-2014 11:28 AM)simondice Wrote:
Appreciate the advice guys. I'm looking to start out a business myself though, not really work for someone else (not my thing). I was thinking is there any industries that use surprising uses for math and technology, maybe some insight into the people who are engineers and entrepreneurs themselves.
The thing is though, it's all good and fine that you want to start a business and you might be smart and motivated, but you're putting the cart before the horse so to speak.
You need to have an idea and some understanding of market need. The best way to do that is to have some life experience. Lots of very successful startups originate from Facebook and Google dropouts. If you're the kind of very smart math oriented guy, then those two places might be very good to start.