[soup]

This thread has me thinking about a way that a guy can get out of being married without having to deal with the bullshit.

He can start acting really beta to make his wife not like him, then hire a player to seduce his his wife and fuck her while also hiring a private detective to capture footage of it.

Then when he gets divorced he might have more leverage in court.

[Onto]

Soup- depends on the state. NY is no-fault and I nfidelity doesn't matter there from what I've heard.

[bacon]

He has work demands that would make travel to Asia impossible before the marriage. When I brought up his lack of experience with women I bet he has never been with anyone besides a white chick. His international travel is limited to western Europe. So getting him to travel to Asia and fuck Asian chicks would be very outside his comfort zone even if he could get away for work.

Thanks for all the feedback. It's best I keep my opinions about marriage to myself.

[Mongo]

Is there something wrong with his fiancee, other than her being a 6? If she would make a good mother/life partner, then be happy for him. While not everybody has the same standards of happiness that those on this forum do, it is possible that she fits what he is looking for in a woman. Wish him the best and be happy for him as a friend. It might not be what you or I or anybody else on this forum would consider ideal, but so be it. You'll be better off for maintaining the friendship and letting go of the excess negativity.

[WestIndianArchie]

(05-26-2014 11:24 AM)davyjose Wrote:  

Out of curiosity, how iron clad is your average American prenup?

Here in Ireland they can be invalidated by a judge should he see fit, just wondering what's the situation like in the US, whether they guarantee 100% you hold onto your shit.

Like any contract, it's only as good as the lawyers defending it.

But sometimes a woman doesn't get what is rightfully hers.

Anna Nicole Smith married a dude in his late 80's. A legit oil tycoon.
They didn't get a prenup, and when her billionaire hubby died the next year, she should have been entitled to half under Texas law.

Texas and all the states (AZ, NM, CO, CA..) that used to be Mexico are community property states - which means any thing that's his is hers for the most part and what's hers is hers.

"APA federal appeals court says Anna Nicole Smith's estate will receive none of the more than $300 million that she claimed her late billionaire husband had promised her.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal appeals court ruled Friday that Anna Nicole Smith’s estate will get none of the more than $300 million the late Playboy model claimed a Texas billionaire to whom she was briefly married meant to leave her after he died.

The ruling came in a 15-year legal battle that started in a sleepy Houston probate court and stretched all the way to the U.S Supreme Court.

15 YEARS of lawyer fees.

Findlaw has a decent write up on how this rich family screwed over that poor wife.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20001121.html

WIA

[Thesoloist]

(05-26-2014 08:57 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

Old friend is getting married should I say anything? Yes tell him congratulations.

Nothing you say is gonna sway him from getting married if he has already decided to take the plunge. If you start telling him about banging other girls and how marriage sucks, hes still gonna get married. He will just stress out more about it.

You gotta worry about you.... I've found out no matter how much grand advice you give a friend, they have to want these things for themselves and be the type of men who do what they want. I think we men on Roosh are the minority when it comes to living life as a man.

^^^So much this

One of my best friends who I always respected and carried himself like a boss. Decided to move halfway across the country to DC. With a 21 year old single divorced mother. He is 27 with a masters degree, does Ju-jitzu etc. I and my other buddies tried to give him that "real talk" but he wasn't listening

Fast Forward a year and half later and I barley recognize his voice he sounds so broken. He is lonely cause he doesn't know anyone out in DC, works 50+ hours a week. And he is taking care of the bills etc so she can go to school and take care of their son.

It's truly sad

[jamaicabound]

I guess depends on ur relationship with him. If u jusy recently reconnected and are more online acquantances Id leave it alone. If you guys actually reconnected and friendship picked up where it left off and you feel close enough to say something say something. Not really sure what your goal is. Ate you just trying to open his eyes or do you want to breakup the marriage. Also keep in mind he may not be happy with ur info the ild kill the messenger thing

[Rutting Elephant]

Maybe there's some discreet way to alert him to RVF without knowing it's you who are recommending it?

[heavy]

Say congratulations. Don't let a woman get in the way of an old friendship.

I'm glad no one said anything to me when I was getting married at the young age of 22, because I wouldn't have listened anyway. The way I look at it, he's maturing, even if that means doing something stupid like getting married (especially in his NYC high $ to a 6 situation). Like I tell everyone, getting married was the 2nd best thing I've ever done...and it was a necessary step to the first best thing I've ever done.

[Bill]

You could say: Man, congrats. Wow, crazy. I mean it´s really a big step. I would love to marry a girl but I am so awefull with relationship stuff. How do you handle it man? I mean I think I have not enough patience, maybe that´s the problem. What do you think? Is any hope for me left or am I too much of a selfish bastard?

I think with this way he might think at least a little bit about the bad side of marriage.

[Lufty]

(05-26-2014 03:59 AM)bacon Wrote:  

He described her as funny, quick witted, and keeps him on my toes. Which I just translated to mean ball buster.

I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Depending on their personalities it might work out pretty well. It's also worth mentioning that marriage gets a really bad rap on this site. There are obviously huge drawbacks and those have to be accounted for, it isnt the "happily ever after" machine that it has been made out to be, but sometimes(sub 50%) it works and both parties are happy.

Maybe your friend wants kids sooner rather than later. Who knows. Either way if an old friend who you recently reconnected with out of the blue started criticizing your life choices what would you think?

[Onto]

Check out Bill Murray's advice that he just impromptuly gave at a Bachelor Party. It's pretty funny.

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/bill-mu...1581953280

[Brian Boru]

Honestly it depends on the quality of the woman involved. If there isn't anything particularly wrong with her other than here average looks, I'd just let it go. If she is feminine, wife and mother material, and comparatively lacking in American bitchiness, he might know what he is doing. Marriage and fatherhood can be a beneficial thing for men....granted she isn't the modern Western women who'll leave him with 2/3 of his assets in 7-10 years.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Bacon,
You may want to have him watch this:
http://youtu.be/CzVbDeO57w8

Best of luck man!

[funkyzeit]

(05-26-2014 04:09 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Do it indirectly. Invite him to join you in BKK or somewhere else in Asia. Then, slowly show him the good life as a man. Show him how it is to live like a rock star there while swimming in young, sweet and feminine women.

If he can't see it while there, then he is hopeless and there wouldn't be much you or anyone could do.

Bringing him to a pussy paradise is the best and safest bet to open his eyes and mind to a different reality.

This is what I'll do if she's "keeping him on his toes" (making him do things for sexual reward). But it's all up to OP and his impression of this girl. Any red flags you notice? Is she caring? Long hair? Is she friends with party sluts? Her past? Entitlement? Tattoos? Does she flirt with his alpha friends? I'd say, show him the life of pussy slayer and then let him decide.

[Espresso]

(05-27-2014 11:28 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

Maybe there's some discreet way to alert him to RVF without knowing it's you who are recommending it?

I think he might find out once he sees OP's thread