[robreke]

(05-16-2015 11:36 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 02:41 AM)brick tamland Wrote:  

I've been trying to figure out reasons for flaking for some months as I go along. As a mid 30s guy what's most noticeable is that young girls can just move on quickly after the first bang, even if she the sex literally made her sweat / she asked that you cum in her mouth or whatever else.
It seems they are easily distracted / have plenty of guys hitting up their phone, FB, instant messaging etc; on top of that they still have guys in their social circle, guys in university, guys at work, orbiters and guys they themselves are interested in. It's a lot of factors at play.
Regardless, the prize (banging chicks in their absolute physical prime) outweighs these obstacles. My last bang was a 23 year old.

Yes. I'm making an educated guess that I just lost my newest, younger notch to some guy in her social circle. Because of social pressure, social circle makes it harder for a girl to leave. For example if my notch decides she prefers me to the other guy after banging him a few times, she might not leave him because of concern for what her friends will think. No worries though, I still have 3 in my rotation, a few in the pipeline and I'm gonna be traveling for 2 months starting in 3 weeks.

Even when we lose a good bang to her social circle or some other guy, I think we sometimes have a fair chance of seeing/banging her again.

The reason? Most guys don't know this game shit. Most guys get really needy in a relationship, especially if the girl is hot. They're going to fuck up. They'll do things like call her too much, chase her, etc, which turns a lot of women off.

We, being players, of course understand things like not contacting a girl too often and letting it proceed at a pace with which she is comfortable.

So, I like to leave the door open. If a girl tells me she met someone else or is going to give an ex another chance, I'll say "let me know if things don't work out" Every time I've done this they have all replied that they would let me know....though, of course, not all have gotten back to me. But sometimes, they'll get in touch a month or more later, especially if you laid the pipe well.

Another tactic is to leave the door open as mentioned, then go radio silent for a month. Then hit her up with a non chalant restart. By this time, she may already be growing weary of her "new guy" If you throw in the "Hey, I'd just like to see you over a coffee/ drink and catch up. I don't have any expectations other than just wanting to see you" vibe, and she still has some latent attraction for you, there's a decent chance she'll accept.

[Vincent Chase]

A girl who flaked last week hit me up on Saturday telling me to join her and her friends at some club. I thought terrible logistics and too complicated fuck that. So told her I'm busy going out with friends and to re-schedule. I probably could have texted her later at night for a possible booty call type date but was tired anyway and low chance. I noticed she deleted my number the next morning (her photo and last time seen disappeared from Whatsapp).

An online girl flaked on me for tonight. She texted me at noon asking me if we're on for tonight. I said yes, meet me at x on y. Texted her a little back and forth. Then 4pm (4 hours before the date), she texted me that she's suffering from hayfever and is blind in one eye. Just another waste of space.

[Robert Plant]

(05-16-2015 12:43 PM)robreke Wrote:  

[quote] (05-16-2015 11:36 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

Yes. I'm making an educated guess that I just lost my newest, younger notch to some guy in her social circle. Because of social pressure, social circle makes it harder for a girl to leave. For example if my notch decides she prefers me to the other guy after banging him a few times, she might not leave him because of concern for what her friends will think. No worries though, I still have 3 in my rotation, a few in the pipeline and I'm gonna be traveling for 2 months starting in 3 weeks.

Even when we lose a good bang to her social circle or some other guy, I think we sometimes have a fair chance of seeing/banging her again.

The reason? Most guys don't know this game shit. Most guys get really needy in a relationship, especially if the girl is hot. They're going to fuck up. They'll do things like call her too much, chase her, etc, which turns a lot of women off.

We, being players, of course understand things like not contacting a girl too often and letting it proceed at a pace with which she is comfortable.

So, I like to leave the door open. If a girl tells me she met someone else or is going to give an ex another chance, I'll say "let me know if things don't work out" Every time I've done this they have all replied that they would let me know....though, of course, not all have gotten back to me. But sometimes, they'll get in touch a month or more later, especially if you laid the pipe well.

Another tactic is to leave the door open as mentioned, then go radio silent for a month. Then hit her up with a non chalant restart. By this time, she may already be growing weary of her "new guy" If you throw in the "Hey, I'd just like to see you over a coffee/ drink and catch up. I don't have any expectations other than just wanting to see you" vibe, and she still has some latent attraction for you, there's a decent chance she'll accept.

You're so right Robreke. The girl I mentioned above texted me last night at 1030 and again today at 1230. Today she said, "I'm so sorry I had to cancel on you without much warning-- things have been kind of complicated in my life lately".

Translation: You fucked me really well but seem like kind of a player. Thanks to you warming me up, a beta jumped in for a turn. I was really hoping it would be good but it wasn't, so I'm back to you again until some other beta chump catches my interest.

[Ingocnito]

(05-17-2015 04:37 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 12:43 PM)robreke Wrote:  

[quote] (05-16-2015 11:36 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

Yes. I'm making an educated guess that I just lost my newest, younger notch to some guy in her social circle. Because of social pressure, social circle makes it harder for a girl to leave. For example if my notch decides she prefers me to the other guy after banging him a few times, she might not leave him because of concern for what her friends will think. No worries though, I still have 3 in my rotation, a few in the pipeline and I'm gonna be traveling for 2 months starting in 3 weeks.

Even when we lose a good bang to her social circle or some other guy, I think we sometimes have a fair chance of seeing/banging her again.

The reason? Most guys don't know this game shit. Most guys get really needy in a relationship, especially if the girl is hot. They're going to fuck up. They'll do things like call her too much, chase her, etc, which turns a lot of women off.

We, being players, of course understand things like not contacting a girl too often and letting it proceed at a pace with which she is comfortable.

So, I like to leave the door open. If a girl tells me she met someone else or is going to give an ex another chance, I'll say "let me know if things don't work out" Every time I've done this they have all replied that they would let me know....though, of course, not all have gotten back to me. But sometimes, they'll get in touch a month or more later, especially if you laid the pipe well.

Another tactic is to leave the door open as mentioned, then go radio silent for a month. Then hit her up with a non chalant restart. By this time, she may already be growing weary of her "new guy" If you throw in the "Hey, I'd just like to see you over a coffee/ drink and catch up. I don't have any expectations other than just wanting to see you" vibe, and she still has some latent attraction for you, there's a decent chance she'll accept.

You're so right Robreke. The girl I mentioned above texted me last night at 1030 and again today at 1230. Today she said, "I'm so sorry I had to cancel on you without much warning-- things have been kind of complicated in my life lately".

Translation: You fucked me really well but seem like kind of a player. Thanks to you warming me up, a beta jumped in for a turn. I was really hoping it would be good but it wasn't, so I'm back to you again until some other beta chump catches my interest.

Not to say every man on here is a porn star, but just reading RVF means you've got more ambition than most guys I'd assume. I think there's a lot more women doing what the "translation" suggests, than you might think.

I also think the hotter the girl, the more levels of both alpha cock bouncing and beta-layering in between they have going on.

Let's say you're king alpha fuck in her mind. She may have a few other alpha fuck buddies she maintains with open pussy because she thinks; "no way in hell is a guy that fucks better than all the rest, gonna stay faithful." So she keeps the other lesser-alphas on the hook while all the while looking for security in a plethora of betas.

The sad reality is this is the hypergamous, modern, female mindset that simply ruins them for anything good in the future, eventually including good sex. Just a used up whore.

I know damn well someone, somewhere has me beat in each individual category woman want, and altogether. That knowledge, if any, and the lack of fear of it, is what makes me dangerous.

I don't underestimate my competition, but more importantly, I don't underestimate the absolute complete retardedness of hamster wars occurring in any woman's mind.

[robreke]

Robert P.

How many times had you banged that girl that texted you. Was it a one bang deal or had you gone out a few times?

Also, how long after she flaked/broke it off with you did it take her to get back in touch?

[Robert Plant]

I only banged her once but she was way into me from the movement we met. It was a surprise when she went silent. So I figured she must have some kind of anti slut defense up. I gave her some space, something I think most women need but almost never take.

I think there were about 3 weeks between texts and about 1.5 months before we hung out again. The only effort on my part was writing like 5 texts and calling her.

[Silva]

I've run into this problem recently. A girl I've been banging for a couple of months, and we met up maybe 6 times over that period, is now suddenly 'busy' for the next few weeks. Lo and behold, I find out through Facebook she's dating some other guy.

The sex with her was great, made her squirt multiple times, tied her up etc. all the shit that normal guys would never even think of doing.

Still surprises me to this day how easily women go from cock to cock.

Even though she's dating this other guy, I got a random call from her at half 2 in the morning a few days ago.

[robreke]

Some of this thread deals with how to get a flaky post bang girl to come back into the mix. I want to know if anyone has developed a decent " Anti "Anti Slut Defense" Measure" that can be used in the time between the end of the bang and when you drop her back off/she leaves.

In other words, there is a gap of time that the girl is still with you between the bang and dropping the girl off at her car or her leaving your place later that night or the next morning.

In that time gap, I'm thinking there are things you can do or say to disarm her anti-slut defense measures. Maybe there is something you can say that she will remember that will lessen the chances of her, after departing from you, thinking about "OMG I was such a slut to sleep with him on the first date. i'm so ashamed, I don't think I'll answer his call"

I believe girls have these thoughts especially after a first date/ zero date bang.

Here's an example of what I mean by saying certain things to lessen certain female behaviors. The infamous Last minute resistance:

I read a good thing to say from Love Systems about destroying Last Minute Resistance. Much of LMR has to do with the girl subconsciously being afraid you're going to pump and dump her. So one thing you can say on a date when the girl is temporarily away from you, like going to the bathroom or something and then when she comes back and I've used with effectiveness is: "Not to give you a big head or anything, but when you left all I wanted was for you to hurry up and get your ass back here. Cause there was no one else I wanted to talk to. Don't get me wrong, you could lose me in a heartbeat. But I was missing seeing you. I wanted to share that."

This gives her the message that while she's gone, you want to see her and that, after you bang her and aren't with her, you will still want to see her. It soothes the hamster.

Likewise, I'd be interested if anyone has any ideas on some "hamster soothing ideas" you can use to decrease Anti Slut Defense after the bang, while she's still with you, but before she leaves or you drop her back off at her place/her car.

[Foolsgo1d]

My best techniques were just eating breakfast or dinner with them and meeting them outside of alcohol related environments in the first place. Drink for a girl is like a raging boner for a guy, it makes you do shit you wouldn't normally do.

She might consider you a one time only thing and there is nothing you can do about it other than being cool with the situation and not doing the typical "well I've got summat coming up and I need to go" line.

You might bump into her later on or she gets the horn again and remembers the dicking you gave her and sends a message. It has happened to me.

Be emphatic towards a girl who you had good sex with, I see no harm in being decent but don't get all mushy.

[Suits]

(05-11-2014 01:16 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

The other thing is what Distant Light said in my recent Game thread which I've been thinking about. He mentioned that for girls these days, sex is an event, not a regular fun they want to keep going.

Ya, what's up with that?

If you ask them, girls will always say that they like sex.

And yet, they'll go months and months without actually having sex, because the perfect opportunity didn't magically just happen for them.

My personal theory is that women hate sex.

[jariel]

Guys make the mistake of thinking that once they hit then the relationship is supposed to transition into something else just because they've hit.

Every guy isn't putting it down in the bedroom, so some guys get nexted because they had enough game to get the girl in the sack, but they airballed when they got their shot.

Some bitches are already committed to someone or something else, she's all up in her "career", she has a serious boyfriend, she's married, she's someone's mom, so you were just something to do, something different from the usual shit in her life.

Some bitches just like to get fucked, or they were in a time in their lives when they needed to get fucked, and you happened to cross paths with them at the right place, at the right moment.

Sometimes, after it's over, so is the moment, and they move on.

[jariel]

(05-26-2015 04:03 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Ya, what's up with that?

If you ask them, girls will always say that they like sex.

And yet, they'll go months and months without actually having sex, because the perfect opportunity didn't magically just happen for them.

My personal theory is that women hate sex.

Any chick who can go "months and months" without sex doesn't have a healthy attitude about sex.

I personally believe that most chicks who say that are straight up lying.

You have to understand that women have their own definitions for "sex","cheating", etc. They'll say and do whatever it takes to help them not own their inner slut.

I've fucked a lot of women, of all ages, and all kinds of backgrounds, the idea that they hate sex is incredibly foreign to me.

They want sex and they want it good, but they don't want it from everybody who wants it from them.

[Vincent Chase]

(05-26-2015 12:53 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 04:03 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Ya, what's up with that?

If you ask them, girls will always say that they like sex.

And yet, they'll go months and months without actually having sex, because the perfect opportunity didn't magically just happen for them.

My personal theory is that women hate sex.

Any chick who can go "months and months" without sex doesn't have a healthy attitude about sex.

I personally believe that most chicks who say that are straight up lying.

You have to understand that women have their own definitions for "sex","cheating", etc. They'll say and do whatever it takes to help them not own their inner slut.

I've fucked a lot of women, of all ages, and all kinds of backgrounds, the idea that they hate sex is incredibly foreign to me.

They want sex and they want it good, but they don't want it from everybody who wants it from them.

Absolutely. I did a college course abroad, girls between 21-35. I can categorically say that all the girls in the course got fucked. Some of them (the minority) made serious boyfriends from some guys, some girls were married from before and cheated on their husbands, , some picked one guy and entered into a fuck buddy relationship with him and tried to be as discreet about it as possible and the even more slutty just fucked around and banged at least 3-5 guys from class. They always tried to gag the guys from saying anything so they don't harm the girls' social capital.

They love sex, and any girls who don't enjoy sex aren't worth your time. I usually deal with girls in big cities like London and New York. I genuinely find it very hard to believe a typical girl from Manhattan would happily go a couple of months or even a month without sex.

[robreke]

(05-26-2015 12:53 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 04:03 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Ya, what's up with that?

If you ask them, girls will always say that they like sex.

And yet, they'll go months and months without actually having sex, because the perfect opportunity didn't magically just happen for them.

My personal theory is that women hate sex.

Any chick who can go "months and months" without sex doesn't have a healthy attitude about sex.

I personally believe that most chicks who say that are straight up lying.

You have to understand that women have their own definitions for "sex","cheating", etc. They'll say and do whatever it takes to help them not own their inner slut.

I've fucked a lot of women, of all ages, and all kinds of backgrounds, the idea that they hate sex is incredibly foreign to me.

They want sex and they want it good, but they don't want it from everybody who wants it from them.

Good looking women can get sex MUCH easier than a good looking man can if they want to. Thirsty betas and maybe even an alpha or two here and there give them the opportunity somewhat often....especially in big cities.

So, they're not as 'desperate' as many good looking or average looking men and perhaps don't value it as much as a man because it's not as scarce a commodity to them. They don't have to have game to get laid to men they are attracted to. A man, even a good looking one, usually has to have game to bang a woman he's attracted to. It's more of an effort and work for a man to get good sex than it is for a woman.

To some extent, they can sit back and pick and choose more than a man can. They're the ones who get offered. They are the "offerees" and we, men, are the "offerers". If all you have to do is wait for members of the opposite sex to proposition you (either subtly or overtly), such as attractive women do, you'll naturally have a different attitude of sex. You'll also value it differently. That doesn't mean you won't enjoy it as much though.

[StrikeBack]

I don't think they hate sex, they just have low sex drive (LSD), probably lower than women used to have.

To start with, they have like 1/20 the testosterone level of the average man, so their sex drive is naturally already very low compared to ours.

Think about a typical lifestyle of a young woman these days, it'd make sense that they have LSD. If you as a man stay hooked to social media, netflix all the time, then hardly work out but go out partying, drinking, eating crappy foods, staying up late week in week out, your sex drive is going to tank as well. Women get it even worse as the sheer amount of attention they get through social media would be enough to satisfy them.

[Zooxanthellae]

Texting immediately after she returns from a vacation is a death nail for sure, I've been burned by that many times and in fact I still sometimes forget and am genuinely just being courteous when they come back by checking in but as the ruthless nature of the red pill dictates... It looks needy, so in essence to her it is needy.

As for the second half of this thread about women going months without dick, if she's under 30 and even decently hot trust me she is getting cocked down as much as anybody, it just may be a "secret" alpha or perhaps a lucky orbiter or nomads or whatever, but anyone who has had a platonic friendship with a decent looking single woman under 30 has heard the unbridled fuckery they engage in.

I personally subscribe to the classic Pareto principle that roughly 20% of the men (alphas) are fucking 80% of the women. Or have fucked. Or could fuck.

In other words if she says "I haven't had sex in a month" that usually means "with someone other than my go-to alpha". Which a lot of the time is the same guy for several women, he just has his shit together enough to not say anything about it.

[Manystyles]

Dude, that's the exact same text I got last week. I've read some of the comments on here about making sure the sex is good. It was good!!! This flake was an anomaly. Whatever happened with that girl? Did you get a thirdthird?