[StrikeBack]

Some of you guys must live in pussy heaven or something.

Bieb's girl and the hot blondes posted up so far are all 10s in my book. Would kill and die to impregnate each and every one of them. Hell I'd get in a quick rape to impregnate and hope I get a few solid blasts away before the white knights arrive to kill and pull my dead body off those chicks.

[soup]

(05-08-2014 12:54 AM)Vroom Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:09 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 11:48 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

@Vroom:

Because JB is in-shape, he's just not jacked.

The dude is young and he probably has a high metabolism. I was a HARD gainer until around 21yo. Before then I did everything in my power and while shredded, wasn't muscular per se.

If he was a fat fuck, then I could see your point, but he's not and is technically in shape.

Odds are he'll start to bulk up in a couple of years, then he'll be jacked and be worth $300 million and all can be happy.

Clearly, Vroom doesn't understand the power of fame.

When you are famous, famous to the point where you have Slash from Guns n Roses commenting on the ridiculous amount of access to pussy you have, it doesn't matter how jacked you are.

Justin Bieber is a king. He's operating on a different level than you, Vroom.

Don't be jealous. Part of Redpill is recognizing the truth of the situation. You complaining about Justin Bieber's physique strikes me as an attempt to get validation from the guys on the forum more than anything else.
It's not trolling per se (I hope).. I've seen this kind of thing with other guys here.. it's more of a way to get a little ego boost shot. Maybe that will help you when you go out and game.

I think that if you recognize what you are doing, and own your shit, you will be coming from a stronger space.

Except that I didn't complain about his physique at all. In fact, the only comment I made on it was more of a compliment.

But, if some dudes do want to rip on him for it, they don't need to "shut up" as you put it - it's valid. Like it or not, Size grants status among men, as does age - neither of which Bieber has.
Proficiency or accomplishments in pertinent fields is another status booster, but his is debatable - singing isn't generally viewed highly among men, but he does have plenty of time and resources to branch out into whatever he wants, but until such time, he'll keep getting sneered at.

[Beyond Borders]

For a thread that was meant to do nothing more than celebrate a plump, ripe piece of ass, we most certainly have gotten off course...

[Christian McQueen]

(05-08-2014 01:03 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

For a thread that was meant to do nothing more than celebrate a plump, ripe piece of ass, we most certainly have gotten off course...

Was just going to post that.

Regardless of everyone's opinions...can we all agree on this?

Every single forum member and even the lurkers would bang her until their dick was red and raw

[soup]

(05-08-2014 01:03 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

For a thread that was meant to celebrate a plump, ripe piece of ass, we most certainly have gotten off course...

I think it's a reflection of guys being jealous of Bieber. Also, I've noticed McQueen tends to get a lot of flack. I think some guys don't want to believe that there is a guy on here banging girls like Lindsay Lohan, but who isn't famous himself.

Why?

Probably because it reminds them of how much work they'd have to do to get to that kind of level.

Essentially, devoting your whole life to game.

A lot of guys come on RVF and want something for nothing. That want all the spoils of war without having to fight. Good luck with that.

[Jackreacher]

It doesn't surprise me that beiber is pulling that kind of quality. They are an ideal match. The amount of chicks that want to be with beiber is in equal proportions to the amount of guys that want to bang that hot piece of ass. What surprises me are billionaires coupling with asian butterfaces. It's like they're committing a crime against themselves, but it effects everybody. When ugly chicks start thinking they can bag billionaires and millionaires the damage to society has already been done.

[soup]

(05-08-2014 01:08 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

It doesn't surprise me that beiber is pulling that kind of quality. They are an ideal match. The amount of chicks that want to be with beiber is in equal proportions to the amount of guys that want to bang that hot piece of ass. What surprises me are billionaires coupling with asian butterfaces. It's like they're committing a crime against themselves, but it effects everybody. When ugly chicks start thinking they can bag a billionaires and millionaires the damage to society has already been done.

I think there are more girls who want to be with Bieber than there are guys who want that ass.

[cooledcannon]

(05-08-2014 01:10 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think there are more girls who want to be with Bieber than there are guys who want that ass.

I think there are more guys who want to be[friends] with Bieber than there are guys who want that ass.

That money, lifestyle, parties, and networking is going to be so good.

[Jackreacher]

(05-08-2014 01:10 AM)soup Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 01:08 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

It doesn't surprise me that beiber is pulling that kind of quality. They are an ideal match. The amount of chicks that want to be with beiber is in equal proportions to the amount of guys that want to bang that hot piece of ass. What surprises me are billionaires coupling with asian butterfaces. It's like they're committing a crime against themselves, but it effects everybody. When ugly chicks start thinking they can bag a billionaires and millionaires the damage to society has already been done.

I think there are more girls who want to be with Bieber than there are guys who want that ass.

That's one hell of a survey you're going to have to do to find that out. And my money is on the chick.

[Monty Brown]

I don't think there is a guy in the world-other than maybe Cardguy- that wouldn't bang that chick. However, there are women who won't bang Beiber. For instance, my mom.

[Christian McQueen]

"other than maybe Cardguy"

[Beyond Borders]

(05-08-2014 01:17 AM)Monty Brown Wrote:  

I don't think there is a guy in the world-other than maybe Cardguy- that wouldn't bang that chick.

EDIT: Beat me too it, Mqueen.

[Valhalla]

I cannot look at this girl's pics anymore.

I'm pissed I will never bang a woman that hot anytime in the near future.



Wonder what Beiber's notch count is by now...

You guys also have to factor in, the beebs actually has a good looking face in addition to his fame and millions. the guy will be bagging bitches well into his later life.

[kosko]

The babyface can backfire, especially if he doesn't grow tall.

Bow Wow for example hasn't aged, and the dude isn't that tall. He forever looks like he's 21. ... that can be a blessing and a curse depending on how you frame it.



When he's suited down he looks like a young boy going to church and not a man. Suit cut and fitting is poor and does not help, but he needs to establish his look or he forever looks like a child.



This is why I am saying Bieber needs to bulk. He needs to get his grown look on an not look like a 15 year old Lesbian.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Even the Handsome Creepy Eel, who has proclaimed several times that he cares for neither ass nor tits, think that this is such a delectable piece of ass that it easily places the girl in the "9/10 WB until dead from dehydration" category.

[Nineteen84]

(05-08-2014 03:25 AM)kosko Wrote:  

The babyface can backfire, especially if he doesn't grow tall.

Bow Wow for example hasn't aged, and the dude isn't that tall. He forever looks like he's 21. ... that can be a blessing and a curse depending on how you frame it.



When he's suited down he looks like a young boy going to church and not a man. Suit cut and fitting is poor and does not help, but he needs to establish his look or he forever looks like a child.



This is why I am saying Bieber needs to bulk. He needs to get his grown look on an not look like a 15 year old Lesbian.

I present to you his baby momma:

[Teedub]

(05-07-2014 09:54 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:45 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Excelsior now we are talking. Maliah Michel is a straight 9 in my book.

There you have it. This simply blows my mind (no hate), so I'd say Excelsior is on to something.

It's official - to me at least; these "debates" will never get us anywhere.

Me too. It's crazy (to me) that anyone would find that Maliah girl anything above a 6. Maybe even a 5. Honestly! She literally doesn't do anything for me.

Are those preferences genetic or a 'social construct'? Never thought I'd be asking a question like that on here.

[DaveR]

(05-08-2014 04:47 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:54 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:45 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Excelsior now we are talking. Maliah Michel is a straight 9 in my book.

There you have it. This simply blows my mind (no hate), so I'd say Excelsior is on to something.

It's official - to me at least; these "debates" will never get us anywhere.

Me too. It's crazy (to me) that anyone would find that Maliah girl anything above a 6. Maybe even a 5. Honestly! She literally doesn't do anything for me.

Are those preferences genetic or a 'social construct'? Never thought I'd be asking a question like that on here.

I think that's what everyone here should be focusing on - trying to understand what is attractive to other guys, not only based on their own individual and national/regional preferences.

Understanding someone's background and cultural preferences allows you to get a lot more out of a datasheet than otherwise. So instead of taking my comments as criticism, which they are not, some valuable intel. can be gained. For example, my earliest post in this thread: "I've also noticed that guys who like Latinas usually like Hungary, and prefer Southern Russia (including Ukraine) over Northern Russia."


I think Excelsior has nailed it - one needs to take into account social constructs to understand why this Latina, who can be considered a 9 in the Americas and Africa, may not be anything special in other parts of the world.

The way I rationalised my 6-7 (probably 6.5 on review) is as follows: the video below shows my idea of what an 8 should be, especially the one on the right. Using that as a benchmark, I have to say that Bieber's girl is at least 1.5 points lower for:
- comical proportions (the oversized butt and legs are not attractive to me, and a couple of guys I asked today have confirmed that I'm not the only one with that view)
- ho-hum face
- hair and makeup need a lot of work
- can't dress herself

[Mujeriego]

All of this giving or taking points for clothes, make up, small imperfections, etc. is a bit too much. I'm waiting for someone to type "She loses 2.351 points for her nose being 2 millimeters off center and the pinprick sized mole on her left shoulder." A bad bitch is a bad bitch regardless of race or preferences. I prefer latinas, but that hasn't stopped me from boning girls of every color of the rainbow when they met my attractiveness threshold. Well done Justin Bieber, I hope you tear her ass apart like a fresh tamale. Bend her over and tell her damelo while she screams si papi, si!

[Foolsgo1d]

Would this thread be as it is if a guy like Snoopdog/lion or some rocker had her on his arm?

I've seen grown men love JBs songs or hate them with me being the guy who avoids it at all costs but I reckon this is where a lot of hate may originate from.

[Excelsior]

(05-08-2014 04:47 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:54 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:45 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Excelsior now we are talking. Maliah Michel is a straight 9 in my book.

There you have it. This simply blows my mind (no hate), so I'd say Excelsior is on to something.

It's official - to me at least; these "debates" will never get us anywhere.

Me too. It's crazy (to me) that anyone would find that Maliah girl anything above a 6. Maybe even a 5. Honestly! She literally doesn't do anything for me.

Are those preferences genetic or a 'social construct'? Never thought I'd be asking a question like that on here.

Probably a bit of both, but there is a healthy genetic component to it. West Africans have been known to generally maintain a stronger preference for more exaggerated waist-to-hip ratios. Maliah is an icon in black America, so much so that you'll hear her name dropped regularly by prominent artists in extremely popular mainstream songs. Here are a few other women who are considered ideal in the black/urban/hip-hop community:

Tahiry:






Jessica Kylie:





Deelishis:

Jhonni Blaze:

And here are a whole bunch of hip-hop's "elite" women heading to Deelishis' b-day party:

I could go on, but I think you're all getting the idea. This is what I've been trying to get across in this thread. Lizard of Oz was attempting to talk about "objective" standards of beauty and said that one could "objectively" define "true" beauties (what he considered "the elite of the elite") by examining their ability to intimidate men with their appearance in an almost forbidding way, the kind of way that can stop male movement in a given environment (club/party, wherever).

In the urban community, the women with that kind of power do not look like Candice Swanepoel (34 hips). They actually don't look quite like Yovanna Ventura either (she's thick, but not especially so by urban/hip-hop standards - those hips are probably not quite 40+). They look like Maliah, Deelishis and the other women above - if you do not have a tiny waist to go along with very large hips (40+), you're probably not going to be considered elite in the urban community.

On the other hand, I'm sure many of you dudes consider the girls I posted above to be much too thick to be "elite", and might even go as far as to say they're 6s at best (as Teedub claimed with regard to Maliah).

The comparisons I'm making above using the urban community mark just one example I'm using to illustrate differences in mate preference. Go to Latin America, East Asia, South Asia, Africa, etc and you'll find plenty of other variations in plenty of different communities and cultures.

Again, there are consistencies (everyone likes youth, everyone likes a good waist-to-hip ratio, just about everyone favors longer hair, etc), but beyond those basic similarities you're going to get a lot of subjectivity. That's the kind of subjectivity that can make a difference in any debate guys have about girls like Yovanna Ventura (short, reasonably thick, dark Latina) and Candice Swanepoel (tall, very slim, fair European).

TL;DR: Different strokes for different folks.

[Teedub]

Haha, some of those women you posted Excelsior, I struggle to even understand how someone could feel an ounce of attraction towards. Third picture down looks fake it's so ass-heavy! To think they're considered elite to some people blows my mind. All good though, means there's more to go round as they say. I'm definitely an ass man, but not in the way you describe in your post.

[Nineteen84]

yeah different strokes for different folks. Those fat video chicks did nothing for me

[michaelm]

I'd do the right thing by seeking help for these meth hoes. Disgusting.

Anyone who would lower themselves to banging "that" is utterly puke worthy.

Blech...

Just goes to show how so very desperate some of us are.

[kosko]

Don't be so quick to judge Africans with a broad brush @Excelsior. The big booty fetish is a AMERICAN obsession. There isn't those corn fed bootys in Africa. Yes majority of women in Africa can have big tits and bootys but try generally still have slender frames with good parts kinda tacked on.

The irony is as a black man from West Africa I don't find that big ass, massive hip shit appealing on black women. I actually like fatter asses (as described above) on white girls for some odd reason (PAWGS), and tend to be more partial to way curved out Latinas, but not with Black women as its not what I am used to.

Africa has diverse body types and just like Latin America you will find slender women and curved out women in masse. Yes African women more likely have a booty, even if thin, sorta of like Beiber's girl... But it's far from the cartoon asses you find in the States. American curves are from hybrid ethnic mixing, HGH/hormone spiked milk/water, the GMO and corn-fed diets, etc. They are not the norm globally. Yes Black men, even Africans will prefer a booty over breasts but it's a kitschy thing to like those American bootys. It isn't the norm. I don't find many video vixens hot, because many American black men make the fatal flaw in taking a notch or two off THE FACE.... all for the sake of an ass. You can't take a a lesser women in the face just for an ass. Once you start doing that shut your chasing dreams and cartoons. A lot of video vixens have busted faces, and *some* are ugly as fuck. Real talk.

I do have very unique tastes so do remember that I am more so channeling what is present for the typical African women and not wanting to frame the post as my own personal preferences unless I specifically note it.

To me I prefer black women slender like (pornstar) Bella Moretti:



Another example is Katia De Lys, black girl from Cuba:



^ Both are probably "curvy" vs stick European women but they are far more slender then the cartoon American black woman with the school bus ass. These women mirror more traditional physiques you would find in Africa, slender bodies with asses and tits (for the most part).

Most on the top end are going to look like this:








Slender bodies with some ass. Long arms and legs, this mirrors the more slender bodies you find around the globe, each with their regional differences of course but its America IMO that sticks out like a sore thumb, not the rest of the globe.

What I am getting at is your stereotypical "African woman" whom is 18-24 is going to have a body like this:



Maybe some bigger boobs, but that's what your getting. Some deep having lust for African-American school bus women isn't the norm, those women don't exist in Africa wholesale and its almost a purely American phenomenon.