Why hate them? They're helping you! Just like every woman that rejects you is helping you. Hate does nothing for your game in my view. I've had more fun engaging people another words fucking with their head (beta or not) than being a dick to them because they're 'beta.'
The better I get at game, the more I hate betas?
Hating betas? Just the opposite. In fact, I want to fill the world with betas! Get rid of the competition, get rid of alphas, and bang hotter girls. Bang the hottest girls. The more alphas there are to lock these broads into their harem, the harder they are to bang. Alphas make things harder and betas make things easier. In fact, in social circle game, you want all the other guys in the circle to be as beta as they can.
For a more extreme example, say you go to a bar and all the guys are too scare to approach. You are the only guy who's approaching so you you get your pickings. You are the only man on the island. Think about it! Suppose I get three wishes from a genie, you can bet one of those wishes is to turn every other men into shriveled weaklings: pussy paradise.
Your agenda is simple. Your dick in wet pussy, fuck everything else.
For a more extreme example, say you go to a bar and all the guys are too scare to approach. You are the only guy who's approaching so you you get your pickings. You are the only man on the island. Think about it! Suppose I get three wishes from a genie, you can bet one of those wishes is to turn every other men into shriveled weaklings: pussy paradise.
Your agenda is simple. Your dick in wet pussy, fuck everything else.
I started hating fatties more than betas.
Nowadays when I look at them I just think:"look at him, pathetic motherfucker". almost feel sorry for em.
the thing is though, they don't want to be helped. if that's the case....let em rot.
the thing is though, they don't want to be helped. if that's the case....let em rot.
The only despicable betas are the rich ones, the ones who try to compensate by buying girls expensive gifts and becoming their slave driver. Bitches love to ride the Porsche more than the dick, shiz
Going off what Cobra said, I find no reason to "hate" betas. There's nothing wrong with them, and if anything, they influence my life in a positive way. If everyone in the world was an alpha, it'd be that much harder to stand out.
At the same time, be cognizant of betas being your friends. If you don't cut them out, they tend to do dumb stuff like white night and cockblock, even if they're supposed to be your friends.
At the end of the day, you're the average of your 5 closest friends. Surround yourself with (or turn your current friends into, although that can be a real uphill battle) elite, alpha guys and you'll be fine. Sure, it won't be as easy to pull the top chicks in your social circle when you're rolling with the top dogs as when you're rolling with beta guys, but instead of banging 6s and 7s, all the chicks in your social circle will be 9s, and chances are there will be enough to go around even if you lost out on the finest one.
For me, it's more the irrational feminists that grind my gears a little. I've heard bitches go off because of something I said. Yeah, I insulted you, and yeah I meant it. It wasn't because you were a woman, or "gay" (surprising how many feminists will describe themselves as "gay" even when they're hanging off some dude). It's because you are a bitch. If Johnny, the white, straight male, filled to the brim with privilege acted the same way, I'd rip him to shreds too. If you want to be treated differently than other people based on your status as a "gay" female, fine, but don't go off crying when we treat you differently. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
At the same time, be cognizant of betas being your friends. If you don't cut them out, they tend to do dumb stuff like white night and cockblock, even if they're supposed to be your friends.
At the end of the day, you're the average of your 5 closest friends. Surround yourself with (or turn your current friends into, although that can be a real uphill battle) elite, alpha guys and you'll be fine. Sure, it won't be as easy to pull the top chicks in your social circle when you're rolling with the top dogs as when you're rolling with beta guys, but instead of banging 6s and 7s, all the chicks in your social circle will be 9s, and chances are there will be enough to go around even if you lost out on the finest one.
For me, it's more the irrational feminists that grind my gears a little. I've heard bitches go off because of something I said. Yeah, I insulted you, and yeah I meant it. It wasn't because you were a woman, or "gay" (surprising how many feminists will describe themselves as "gay" even when they're hanging off some dude). It's because you are a bitch. If Johnny, the white, straight male, filled to the brim with privilege acted the same way, I'd rip him to shreds too. If you want to be treated differently than other people based on your status as a "gay" female, fine, but don't go off crying when we treat you differently. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Honestly man, I can relate to that feeling of disgust towards betas after experiencing success with women. Upon reflection I feel it has more to do with seeing parts of myself in other people, that I deemed undesirable. That outwardly directed hatred, was really just a reflection of my own self-loathing.
Outer results can mask your inner conflicts but they won't change them.
This issue is related to the fallacy of dichotomous thinking which manifests in the manosphere most commonly as the alpha/beta obsession. It's also related to the codependency/compensatory narcissism continuum in relationships and the superhuman/subhuman dichotomy prevalent in individuals with toxic shame.
*The above may or may not apply to you, but for anyone who feels like there may be something deeper going on within them, these are some things to look into
General recommendations:
Define your core values and adhere to them relentlessly, but let go of the angst and the perceived need to disseminate the red pill and convert others--it's really just an attempt to validate your own beliefs and desire for self-righteousness.
There's more than one way to go about life and the red pill is just one of them.
Outer results can mask your inner conflicts but they won't change them.
This issue is related to the fallacy of dichotomous thinking which manifests in the manosphere most commonly as the alpha/beta obsession. It's also related to the codependency/compensatory narcissism continuum in relationships and the superhuman/subhuman dichotomy prevalent in individuals with toxic shame.
*The above may or may not apply to you, but for anyone who feels like there may be something deeper going on within them, these are some things to look into
General recommendations:
Define your core values and adhere to them relentlessly, but let go of the angst and the perceived need to disseminate the red pill and convert others--it's really just an attempt to validate your own beliefs and desire for self-righteousness.
There's more than one way to go about life and the red pill is just one of them.
Quote: (04-30-2014 09:34 AM)lowside Wrote:
Nowadays when I look at them I just think:"look at him, pathetic motherfucker". almost feel sorry for em.
the thing is though, they don't want to be helped. if that's the case....let em rot.
This.
Also, I understand why people say we should not hate them and I accept it, I do not agree when you say that it makes you stand out/makes things easier. When most men are alphas then women know their places and act like women, which will in turn make them much more enjoyable, a bit like in the old days. Maybe then LTR or even marriage would again become an option. As of now the betas spoil women and turn them into entitled bitches. They do not make it easier for us. Which is fine, from hard soil comes hard men.
About hanging out/associating with them, if we are talking about people our own age group, I would say there is not much point for me to hang out with betas. The coolest guys I know even when I was betas are always alphas. The dance gods in salsa, the martial art experts in my dojo, the best dressed and coolest (also smartest) guy in my Master program. They are all alphas and exude the same confidence and take-no-shit attitude. Also the most fun guys to be around and I learn a lot from them. Oh yes, they bang most of the girls in our social circles.
I do not ditch my "nice guy" friends (these are not betas since they don't envy me and don't oppose my progress) but I'm no longer as close with them as I were. I become closer and closer to my alpha friends simply due to matching life style. Other than that, the other betas I know are boring socially, envious and bitter, and also do not progress far in life intellectually or professionally. I have nothing to learn from them and no patience nor tolerance for them.
Ass or cash, nobody rides for free - WestIndiArchie
Personally, I feel sorry for them rather than angry. Men only know what they have been taught and are have been exposed to during their lives.
We feel angry because we feel like we were cheated on but the reality of the situation is that a lot of these men are happy being the way they are and they blindly believe they are doing the correct thing.
I feel that they are unfortunate in not having the balls to change once the line is crossed to the point that the proverbial line gets pushed further and further and their standards for behaviours etc. are constantly set by women. To appease.
My housemate just returned home with a bouquet of tulips for his girlfriend. She was mugged two days ago and this is his way of 'making up' to her after she scolded him for not dropping everything and being at her side during her moment of distress. Of course, her frame overpowered and he promptly bought her flowers and sweets.
I called him out on it and questioned it, more intrigued at his logic than anything else. He defended that he didn't need an excuse to buy her flowers, it was to make her feel better.
The shame is that he believes through such actions (betaness) he will alleviate any stress, make her feel better, take her mind off things etc.
Nevertheless, he is happy, within his bubble. The house of cards is building up.
From their general negativity/limiting beliefs to their cockblocking, anti-poon energy, I find it unworthy of my attention. I made the effort to change myself and if that person is not willing to change their lives in moments of distress, I would rather not have them in my life.
We feel angry because we feel like we were cheated on but the reality of the situation is that a lot of these men are happy being the way they are and they blindly believe they are doing the correct thing.
I feel that they are unfortunate in not having the balls to change once the line is crossed to the point that the proverbial line gets pushed further and further and their standards for behaviours etc. are constantly set by women. To appease.
My housemate just returned home with a bouquet of tulips for his girlfriend. She was mugged two days ago and this is his way of 'making up' to her after she scolded him for not dropping everything and being at her side during her moment of distress. Of course, her frame overpowered and he promptly bought her flowers and sweets.
I called him out on it and questioned it, more intrigued at his logic than anything else. He defended that he didn't need an excuse to buy her flowers, it was to make her feel better.
The shame is that he believes through such actions (betaness) he will alleviate any stress, make her feel better, take her mind off things etc.
Nevertheless, he is happy, within his bubble. The house of cards is building up.
From their general negativity/limiting beliefs to their cockblocking, anti-poon energy, I find it unworthy of my attention. I made the effort to change myself and if that person is not willing to change their lives in moments of distress, I would rather not have them in my life.
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