[Ternarydemonite]

The are arrogant, controlling and have masculine tendencies, but law is a profession where you serve the powerful and protect their interests. Femenime virtue has no place in law.

If they are at a law firm, they will either be: thin, alcoholic, attractive, female alpha cunts; or fat, alcoholic, smoking unkept cunts.

For the attractive ones you need to be an apex alpha with a great income, in which case you may go for any other woman who is not a controlling cunt.

For the fat, overworked alcoholic ones...wel they don't even have time to fuck, let alone any reedeming qualities other than billing hours.

With enough game or money in your account, they may give you nasty sex. Not marriage material except for lawyer betas who will be emasculated by them.

[Pete]

I started going out with one. At the beginning it was nice. But it's unbearable. The arrogance is on another level, she thinks she knows everything about everything. While she's a good person, iit's hard to have conversations with people like that.

I ended up getting tired. It wasn't fun talking to her on the phone and she was always out partying. For being such a "mature" woman she acted much more like a child.

[Onto]

(04-28-2014 01:57 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

I recently had a mini-relationship with a small-firm lawyer (family law,

It depends on the type of law she wants to practice. Any woman who wants to practice family law has an ax to grind with the Father.

In America, people can choose to do any kind of work and a woman who chooses to swing an ax at the Father all day long for a living is about as worse as it gets.

[Onto]

(04-28-2014 12:16 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  

Femenime virtue has no place in law.

True justice occurs when the written letter of the law (masculine) is tempered with mercy for individual circumstances (feminne) as dipected with the scales of justice.

[maxmueller]

Another RVF lawyer here. No no no. Never again. Dated and fucked plenty of my law school classmates. They were tolerable first year. After that they all turn into the very embodiment of the women we hate. Never ever date/marry a female lawyer. Pump and dump and be done.

[maxmueller]

Also most of them have bad drinking problems. They drink like a fish and it's only a matter of time before they will get sloppy and ruin your life. Given their bad habits most crash into the wall at high speed. And finally, most aren't smart either. Typical woman's studies and poli Sci majors who could not find a job after undergrad and ended up in "lawskool."

Clooney's soon to be lawyer wife is an exception. Female lawyers who look like that and are so accomplished are less than 1% of the total female lawyer population.

Just don't do it fellas. Most are heavily indebted as well with 100k + in debt. Who do you think these broads except to pay their debts? I've heard a lot of seeking arrangement broads are female lawyers.

[lavidaloca]

(04-28-2014 04:54 PM)maxmueller Wrote:  

Just don't do it fellas. Most are heavily indebted as well with 100k + in debt. Who do you think these broads except to pay their debts? I've heard a lot of seeking arrangement broads are female lawyers.

Possibly the case in the US. Most people don't get that far in debt in other countries. I have friends who are 100k in debt via law school but they typically spent frivolously or had accrued 6 or more years of education prior to going to law school.

I would prefer generally speaking to not date a lawyer. This could be due to my bias for artistic types.

Law school isn't very tough, looking back on it. I don't think law school in and of itself would damage a persons personality. What may damage one's personality is it teaches people how to argue every square inch. You see things that are completely ridiculous but you think, well I could argue that, and that, and that.

Also law school covers a wide breadth of people with varying interests. There is a subgroup who are about making the world a better place. A subgroup who are all about the money, status. A subgroup of people who want to help people be it via family law or legal aid.

I'm guessing Hank goes to school in Montreal where CEGEP students can attend law school which would I imagine bring the average age down below typical enrollment which to my knowledge is around 25 years of age when starting.

The hardest thing about law school is getting accepted.

One thing I find that is suggested by too many law students is that being a law student is some kind of huge status boost. It seems as though they use this rationalization to up themselves as some sort of reasoning for going to law school. I think this is way overblown. It's a good career, people will assume you are smarter than the average person and that's about it.

The other perception too many people have going into law is that they are going to make mega dollars with ease. I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but try making it to the point where you are making mid 6 figures i.e. a very successful firm small firm or via partnership in a big firm... The hours, effort and bureaucracy required to achieve that point will not be easy. There are no free lunches in this world. If you are going to get paid at that level, you have to be generating far more money for whoever is paying you.

[DarkTriad]

(04-27-2014 11:30 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

Has anybody ever asked the same question about kindergarten teachers? Or massage therapists? Or yoga instructors?

But that might not be a fair comparison. A female lawyer is no better or worse than any other gal taken from the ranks of the careerist cunts. Most women placed in these positions all develop a cutthroat, take-charge attitude and don't prioritize relationships with men (or any life experiences outside of work). The only difference is that female lawyers, as a group, are afflicted by the careerist virus along with the strong woman syndrome to a greater extent than other professional groups.

Someone that receives years of intensive training in relentlessly arguing any point (whether they're right or wrong) can be substantially below average. Like it or not, all of our professions stamp themselves to some degree on your personality. Roosh would likely have whole different outlook if he had decided to continue being a corporate wage slave instead of a globe trotting writer and entrepreneur.

[tawillionaire]

My grandma went to law school in the 60s and she's a very sweet lady. But she never actually worked as a lawyer. She realized how awful the work was going to be and became a law school professor instead.

I think that says it all right there.

[bojangles]

Not here. They are just children all the same like all women.

[RockHard]

(04-28-2014 12:11 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 12:33 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 02:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

most non lawyer folks don't know how to argue at all. Engineers and tech types are the worst, very reductionist and absolutist.

Good post, any chance we could see a breakdown on this or a thread?

I'm sure members would appreciate hearing from RVF lawyers/attorneys on traps to avoid or ways to handle themselves better in these discussions.

Honestly, it's kind of hard to boil it down to a datasheet and do it justice.

Maybe some of the other guys could, but I can't unlock the "essence"

WIA

I'm an engineer so I definitely see that. I think the start of that datasheet is to be holistic - don't try to pick apart someone piecemeal. Go after the big picture. Go after intent. Geek types are so guilty of nit picking over semantics or tiny tangential details.

Also, lawyers don't consider their opponent's side. Don't make your opponent's argument for them in the interest of intellectual honesty.

[soup]

Bojangles gets it right once again.

[Bacchus]

(04-28-2014 08:32 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-27-2014 11:30 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

Has anybody ever asked the same question about kindergarten teachers? Or massage therapists? Or yoga instructors?

But that might not be a fair comparison. A female lawyer is no better or worse than any other gal taken from the ranks of the careerist cunts. Most women placed in these positions all develop a cutthroat, take-charge attitude and don't prioritize relationships with men (or any life experiences outside of work). The only difference is that female lawyers, as a group, are afflicted by the careerist virus along with the strong woman syndrome to a greater extent than other professional groups.

Someone that receives years of intensive training in relentlessly arguing any point (whether they're right or wrong) can be substantially below average. Like it or not, all of our professions stamp themselves to some degree on your personality. Roosh would likely have whole different outlook if he had decided to continue being a corporate wage slave instead of a globe trotting writer and entrepreneur.

First, female lawyers are much worse than the general female population. I'll take any girl who does not work in an office over a lawyer. The one will be much more pleasant to be around than the other. I can't imagine anything more than a pump n' dump with a lawyer.

Second, female lawyers are not much worse than the rest of the women in the professional class. The argumentative aspect is overblown. Most lawyers are getting paid to do someone else's homework, not fight it out in court. A life dedicated to work (instead of a family) is what degrades their soul, not having a law degree. Your example about Roosh is not very helpful since it involves a man who switched from a corporate job to a career with a significant amount of free time. A better comparison would involve female lawyers vs. other careers. Is a female lawyer really much worse than one in finance? Both have to be productive 10 hours each day. Both have to develop a masculine attitude in order to 'get ahead.' One may have learned how to argue in school, but both learned to prioritize career advancement over all, including relationships with men. That's why they're relatively easy for the night, and that's why they're always single.

[Mentavious]

(04-28-2014 04:54 PM)maxmueller Wrote:  

Also most of them have bad drinking problems. They drink like a fish and it's only a matter of time before they will get sloppy and ruin your life. Given their bad habits most crash into the wall at high speed. And finally, most aren't smart either. Typical woman's studies and poli Sci majors who could not find a job after undergrad and ended up in "lawskool."

Clooney's soon to be lawyer wife is an exception. Female lawyers who look like that and are so accomplished are less than 1% of the total female lawyer population.

Just don't do it fellas. Most are heavily indebted as well with 100k + in debt. Who do you think these broads except to pay their debts? I've heard a lot of seeking arrangement broads are female lawyers.

To add many went into teaching but decided that it doesn't pay much so why not law school

[Dusty]

The only thing worse than a lawyer cunt is a female psychologist. Talk about bat shit crazy. The field draws the crazies in. A lot of them are histrionic and have no boundaries.

[UnW]

Hmm, I've had some good bangs from law students back at uni (I'm also from Australia) and have also banged a few lawyers that have been working for a few years.

The students were hot and not masculine in their personality since they probably haven't started riding the career train to its furthermost extent, but the girls that had been working for a few years were rather masculine (expected) annoying as fuck (expected) and animals in bed (expected).

I'm sure a few years slugging it out trying to prove their worth in the real world fastforwards their decline.

Oh and yes, they spread quite fast, all the of the lawyers I've banged were all within an hour of meeting them.

[All_That_Is_Man]

I'll make this simple: a lawyer cunt is like a female cop.

Nuff said.

[invictusiii]

Banged a lawyer last night. She was pretty down to earth and submissive while fucking. Not at all what I expected.

[MtnMan]

one of my plates is a law student, and she appears to be a very good woman.

Very feminine, quiet, polite, can cook, comes from a good family, appreciates traditional gender roles, literally gets off on pleasing me. Insists on rubbing my back, likes to be gently dominated in bed.

Overall a very high quality girl. Unfortunately for me, she lacks the spark that really gets me going. Its almost like she is too nice, but she will make someone a good wife some day.

[Vigo_the_Carpathian]

Former RVF Lawyer here, and I've gotten with a number of this breed of women. Some guys have touched on it above, but especially if she's an attorney at a big firm, or was brought up in the firm culture, she already is married to her job.

Can't stress this enough: you'll ALWAYS be a second-class citizen in her mind. These chicks all are following the path laid out for them by the feminist propaganda machine in the WORST possible way, buying into all of the "you don't need anyone else" and "you go girl!" ism along the way.

Flakes are the norm; after all, do you think she'd really tell a partner to get bent (even politely) if he emails her at nine asking for a project to be done by the next morning? Not to mention the constant phone checking at meals and when she should otherwise be devoting her attention TO YOU.

Many of these women end up as s by default, since they don't EVER wake up, even well after they've hit the wall because "they still have their job." Female attorneys really can be some of the worst examples of the evil that modern feminism has wrought on society--after all, these are theoretically some of the smartest, most capable women in society, right? The insidiousness of it is that most of them NEVER realize that they were sold a bill of goods, even despite divorces, guys breaking up with them, etc. They just keep plugging away, thinking that someday the growing hole in their souls will magically fill back up (Though to be fair, this goes for most women and men working at 9-to-5s).

I've learned my lesson--I'm staying away for good. The only possible way I could see you wanting to be with one would be some sort of weird reverse seeking arrangement game where she would just pay for all of your shit, but that sort of thing goes against a lot of the principles that the men on this board hold dear (anti-self-improvement, anti-location independent lifestyle, etc.). Enter at your own risk...

Vigo

[N°6]

Homeless bum themed party by foreclosure lawyers

[Trumps Intern]

Most of the girls at my law school suck; wannabe males but incredibly insecure. Horribly type - A and bitchy, dried out, etc. I have nothing good to report on them. The stereotype is absolutely true. Sure there are exceptions. But they only prove the rule imo.

[Player_1337]

They're often horny af.

[1RationalDoc]

(04-27-2014 11:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

The George Clooney engagement thread got me thinking about something, are female lawyers really all that bad? I'm well aware of the stereotype about them being ball busting, over-ambitious, unfeminine and so on, but I find it hard to square with my experience with female law students on my campus.

I know a lot of law students on campus, I've gotten with a few of them and there's a lot of them in some of my classes, they even make a majority of the students in one of my majors. I've found them to be no more masculine than the liberal arts students, the 2nd most attractive (after the health/nutrition girls) and for what it's worth the most intelligent, so I struggle to understand what the forum thinks is wrong with them. Out of many law girls I only know two who turned out to fit the ball-busting stereotype and both were outliers, one lesbian and one libertarian that I briefly casually dated a while back who somehow still came off as feminine...

A bit of background on the situation here: most professional entry postgraduate degrees like law or medicine are mainly done at the undergraduate level in my country, with most law students here completing a 5 year long concurrent B.A/LL.B double degree (a Bachelor degree alone takes 3 years here) to lighten the load of starting a law degree while still a teenager. As such, almost all the people I know in the field of law are still in their late teens or early 20's. These girls also all come from well-off families and elite private high schools and needed to graduate high school the top 2% of the state grade wise (like most degrees in the country admission is based solely on academics) to get into law at my university, and in my opinion girls from that kind of background are usually better than average both looks and personality wise, which I think is the reason why the law girls are one of the hottest groups on my campus.

So either these girls are going to go downhill really fast when they actually start work as lawyers (albeit a fair few of them say they have no interest in actually doing so), the situation at my university is an exception to the norm or the stereotype of the lawyer cunt is overblown.

Can any RVF lawyers with intimate knowledge of this topic chime in?

I honestly would never date a female lawyer or a doctor, or any other hectic field. Some carrer parth are time consuming, and very demanding, and you have to accept that the carrere always will come first before the realtionship. I remember one of my female classmate who was married used to struggle first 2 year in her relationship, because her then fiancee used to call her 24/7 asking when she would be home, and where she is, while we where either preping for exams, or doing our rotations.

Call me sexist, i don't care, after a long day at work i would like to come home to a warm dinner and a wife waiting to get the dick

[MMM]

The young female lawyers I worked with would tell me stories of banging sanitation workers, "losers", etc., while they were in law school (too busy for a relationship but wanted that alpha dick). So for you younger guys, it's game on, pump and dump.

Once they become lawyers, they break beta. IMO, 90 percent of them lose it when they realize they can't have it all.